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Attorney-general Forwards People Power Dissolution Case To Court

Reimar
  2008-10-10 20:21:20
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FROM TOC

Attorney-General Forwards People Power Dissolution Case to Court


UPDATE : 10 October 2008

The Attorney-general's Office has forwarded the People Power Party dissolution case to the Constitution Court today.

Attorney-general, Chaikasem Nitisiri has signed the document concluding the Office of the Attorney-general's investigation into the People Power Party dissolution case.

The case has now been forwarded to the Constitution Court, which is also looking at dissolution cases for the Chart Thai and Matchima Thipataya parties.

This case was sent to the OAG by the Election Commission, who's five commissioners voted unanimously that there is merit to dissolve the PPP and ban all of its board of directors from politics for five years, after its deputy leader, Yongyuth Tiyapairat was found guilty of electoral fraud. He was stripped of his MP status and banned from politics for five years.

The EC said there is reason to believe the party's leader and/or its board of directors knew about the electoral fraud activity but did not try to stop it or amend it.

The Constitution Court will now decide whether to accept the case.

The OAG has come under fire on allegations of deliberately delaying this case to benefit the PPP as the EC decided on this case and forwarded it to the OAG on September 2nd.

PPP executives Chusak Sirinin and Sukhumpong Ngonkam have announced that they will fight the case in court and will seek an opportunity to clarify the facts before the court.
animatic
  2008-10-10 20:54:48
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And the noose tightens one more twist.
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  2008-10-10 21:44:41
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What a sham this is, Feudalism is alive and strong in Thailand.
How can any committee up hold a constitution that was only voted in by 30% of the Thai people.
The Coup makers constitution, who amended a constitution to save their own back sides
a constitution that was created in a democratic manner and agreed by the people of thailand freely in 1997 and not the one created 2 yrs ago under military rule.

The noose should be around PAD leaders neck, who are continuously depressing the poor.
Protectionist feudal lords who do not want the working class to benefit from the fruits of Thailand
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  2008-10-10 21:47:30
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A quick case sounds good, then everybody can go home for the next erection (sorry election). (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)
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  2008-10-10 21:51:26
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QUOTE (annamaria4711 @ 2008-10-10 21:44:41) *
What a sham this is, Feudalism is alive and strong in Thailand.
How can any committee up hold a constitution that was only voted in by 30% of the Thai people.
The Coup makers constitution, who amended a constitution to save their own back sides
a constitution that was created in a democratic manner and agreed by the people of thailand freely in 1997 and not the one created 2 yrs ago under military rule.

The noose should be around PAD leaders neck, who are continuously depressing the poor.
Protectionist feudal lords who do not want the working class to benefit from the fruits of Thailand


Similar arguement on the government. 41% of 70% of the electorate equals about 29%. I wont even go into what percentage that would actually be of the Thai people as minors arent usually counted. However, any side can make that arguement if they want and not only in Thailand.
h90
  2008-10-10 22:01:14
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QUOTE (annamaria4711 @ 2008-10-10 21:44:41) *
What a sham this is, Feudalism is alive and strong in Thailand.
How can any committee up hold a constitution that was only voted in by 30% of the Thai people.
The Coup makers constitution, who amended a constitution to save their own back sides
a constitution that was created in a democratic manner and agreed by the people of thailand freely in 1997 and not the one created 2 yrs ago under military rule.

The noose should be around PAD leaders neck, who are continuously depressing the poor.
Protectionist feudal lords who do not want the working class to benefit from the fruits of Thailand


Yes what a shame they want to punish for vote buying. vote buying will be fully legal in the 2008 constitution.
Reimar
  2008-10-10 22:02:32
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In conjunction with the PPP Dissolution Case, the following report is maybe interesting
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Democrats Suggest Anti-graft Commission Probe Dispersal of PAD

UPDATE : 10 October 2008

The opposition party has proposed that the National Counter Corruption Commission probe Tuesday's violent clashes between anti-government supporters and the police. Meanwhile, the government's policy declaration may be invalid due to a suspicious meeting quorum.

Opposition Whip Chief, Sathit Wongnongtoey and core leaders of the Democrat Party have proposed that the National Counter Corruption Commission should be appointed to investigate the use of tear gas on October 7th by police to disperse demonstrators of the People's Alliance for Democracy in front of Parliament.

Sathit said an independent agency like the NCCC should have more credibility than a committee set up by Cabinet. Furthermore, the organisation has direct authority to examine state officials. The opposition will submit the proposition to the NCCC this afternoon.

He also revealed that the Democrat Party has questioned the meeting quorum for Tuesday's government policy declaration because there are certain MPs belonging to the coalition parties who cast votes for the policy though they did not attend the session, including Chalerm Yoobamrung, Sarit Ung-apinan, and Manit Nopamornbodee.

Sathit said the meeting could be declared invalid and unlawful. The Democrats will lodge the issue with the Constitution Court for further interpretation, and the prime minister could be dismissed if found guilty.

The opposition whip chief said the claim by the government that the meeting to deliver the policy statement could not be prolonged is unreasonable because Cabinet can declare its policy until October 9th. He said the government's action can be considered an attempt to conceal its responsibility for carrying out violence against the public.

Source: TOC


If you take a look at the beginning of that meeting, there was a lot MP's and Senators who din't came and the House Speaker had postponed the meeting at that morning a a later time. May the required amount of MP's and Senators was just reached with those missing persons and the question is: WHO had cast the votes for that guy's?

Interesting here is that the "famous" Chalerm Yoobamrung is one of that persons!

Cheers.
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  2008-10-10 22:19:33
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QUOTE (Reimar @ 2008-10-10 22:02:32) *
In conjunction with the PPP Dissolution Case, the following report is maybe interesting
QUOTE
Democrats Suggest Anti-graft Commission Probe Dispersal of PAD

UPDATE : 10 October 2008

The opposition party has proposed that the National Counter Corruption Commission probe Tuesday's violent clashes between anti-government supporters and the police. Meanwhile, the government's policy declaration may be invalid due to a suspicious meeting quorum.

Opposition Whip Chief, Sathit Wongnongtoey and core leaders of the Democrat Party have proposed that the National Counter Corruption Commission should be appointed to investigate the use of tear gas on October 7th by police to disperse demonstrators of the People's Alliance for Democracy in front of Parliament.

Sathit said an independent agency like the NCCC should have more credibility than a committee set up by Cabinet. Furthermore, the organisation has direct authority to examine state officials. The opposition will submit the proposition to the NCCC this afternoon.

He also revealed that the Democrat Party has questioned the meeting quorum for Tuesday's government policy declaration because there are certain MPs belonging to the coalition parties who cast votes for the policy though they did not attend the session, including Chalerm Yoobamrung, Sarit Ung-apinan, and Manit Nopamornbodee.

Sathit said the meeting could be declared invalid and unlawful. The Democrats will lodge the issue with the Constitution Court for further interpretation, and the prime minister could be dismissed if found guilty.

The opposition whip chief said the claim by the government that the meeting to deliver the policy statement could not be prolonged is unreasonable because Cabinet can declare its policy until October 9th. He said the government's action can be considered an attempt to conceal its responsibility for carrying out violence against the public.

Source: TOC


If you take a look at the beginning of that meeting, there was a lot MP's and Senators who din't came and the House Speaker had postponed the meeting at that morning a a later time. May the required amount of MP's and Senators was just reached with those missing persons and the question is: WHO had cast the votes for that guy's?

Interesting here is that the "famous" Chalerm Yoobamrung is one of that persons!

Cheers.

Do I understand the text right with my humble english knowledge?
Some MPs vote even they were not in the parliament?
in my humble opinion if true that's not a small thing. But maybe there are no laws because no one ever thought of such things??
animatic
  2008-10-10 23:27:21
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QUOTE (Reimar @ 2008-10-10 22:02:32) *
In conjunction with the PPP Dissolution Case, the following report is maybe interesting
QUOTE
Democrats Suggest Anti-graft Commission Probe Dispersal of PAD

UPDATE : 10 October 2008

The opposition party has proposed that the National Counter Corruption Commission probe Tuesday's violent clashes between anti-government supporters and the police. Meanwhile, the government's policy declaration may be invalid due to a suspicious meeting quorum.

Opposition Whip Chief, Sathit Wongnongtoey and core leaders of the Democrat Party have proposed that the National Counter Corruption Commission should be appointed to investigate the use of tear gas on October 7th by police to disperse demonstrators of the People's Alliance for Democracy in front of Parliament.

Sathit said an independent agency like the NCCC should have more credibility than a committee set up by Cabinet. Furthermore, the organisation has direct authority to examine state officials. The opposition will submit the proposition to the NCCC this afternoon.

He also revealed that the Democrat Party has questioned the meeting quorum for Tuesday's government policy declaration because there are certain MPs belonging to the coalition parties who cast votes for the policy though they did not attend the session, including Chalerm Yoobamrung, Sarit Ung-apinan, and Manit Nopamornbodee.

Sathit said the meeting could be declared invalid and unlawful. The Democrats will lodge the issue with the Constitution Court for further interpretation, and the prime minister could be dismissed if found guilty.

The opposition whip chief said the claim by the government that the meeting to deliver the policy statement could not be prolonged is unreasonable because Cabinet can declare its policy until October 9th. He said the government's action can be considered an attempt to conceal its responsibility for carrying out violence against the public.

Source: TOC


If you take a look at the beginning of that meeting, there was a lot MP's and Senators who din't came and the House Speaker had postponed the meeting at that morning a a later time. May the required amount of MP's and Senators was just reached with those missing persons and the question is: WHO had cast the votes for that guy's?

Interesting here is that the "famous" Chalerm Yoobamrung is one of that persons!

Cheers.


Yes oh yes, follow the MONEY folks follow the MONEY.
Where did the fund that most likely suddenly arrived in certain
police commanders pockets. It's Thailand, Thaksin's involved...
follow the fekin money.
robee
  2008-10-12 01:23:24
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yes. Follow money
John45
  2008-10-12 07:48:30
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QUOTE (annamaria4711 @ 2008-10-10 21:44:41) *
What a sham this is, Feudalism is alive and strong in Thailand.
How can any committee up hold a constitution that was only voted in by 30% of the Thai people.
The Coup makers constitution, who amended a constitution to save their own back sides
a constitution that was created in a democratic manner and agreed by the people of thailand freely in 1997 and not the one created 2 yrs ago under military rule.

The noose should be around PAD leaders neck, who are continuously depressing the poor.
Protectionist feudal lords who do not want the working class to benefit from the fruits of Thailand

The only benefits that the working class get are the baht from selling their votes. If only the guy that you worship would decide that he has got enough money now and concentrate his efforts for the good of the people..country.. then well you don't need me to say anymore do you!

Thinking about the a 30% figure, it must be at least that amount of the population who sell their vote. That is your democracy..that is one man one vote. Have a nice day.
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  2008-10-12 08:00:54
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QUOTE (h90 @ 2008-10-10 22:19:33) *
QUOTE (Reimar @ 2008-10-10 22:02:32) *
In conjunction with the PPP Dissolution Case, the following report is maybe interesting
QUOTE
Democrats Suggest Anti-graft Commission Probe Dispersal of PAD

UPDATE : 10 October 2008

The opposition party has proposed that the National Counter Corruption Commission probe Tuesday's violent clashes between anti-government supporters and the police. Meanwhile, the government's policy declaration may be invalid due to a suspicious meeting quorum.

Opposition Whip Chief, Sathit Wongnongtoey and core leaders of the Democrat Party have proposed that the National Counter Corruption Commission should be appointed to investigate the use of tear gas on October 7th by police to disperse demonstrators of the People's Alliance for Democracy in front of Parliament.

Sathit said an independent agency like the NCCC should have more credibility than a committee set up by Cabinet. Furthermore, the organisation has direct authority to examine state officials. The opposition will submit the proposition to the NCCC this afternoon.

He also revealed that the Democrat Party has questioned the meeting quorum for Tuesday's government policy declaration because there are certain MPs belonging to the coalition parties who cast votes for the policy though they did not attend the session, including Chalerm Yoobamrung, Sarit Ung-apinan, and Manit Nopamornbodee.

Sathit said the meeting could be declared invalid and unlawful. The Democrats will lodge the issue with the Constitution Court for further interpretation, and the prime minister could be dismissed if found guilty.

The opposition whip chief said the claim by the government that the meeting to deliver the policy statement could not be prolonged is unreasonable because Cabinet can declare its policy until October 9th. He said the government's action can be considered an attempt to conceal its responsibility for carrying out violence against the public.

Source: TOC


If you take a look at the beginning of that meeting, there was a lot MP's and Senators who din't came and the House Speaker had postponed the meeting at that morning a a later time. May the required amount of MP's and Senators was just reached with those missing persons and the question is: WHO had cast the votes for that guy's?

Interesting here is that the "famous" Chalerm Yoobamrung is one of that persons!

Cheers.

Do I understand the text right with my humble english knowledge?
Some MPs vote even they were not in the parliament?
in my humble opinion if true that's not a small thing. But maybe there are no laws because no one ever thought of such things??

I suspect that more than a few decided to try and telephone in their PROXY vote from outside.
So their Proxy raised a hand or said Aye for them.

hel_l, of the big boss can do that from London, why can't the little fish too?

Would explain a few things, and face it, this bunch isn't likely to worry
hard enough about the niceties of actual constitutional law:
Reference : Pra Veahar, 2-3 digit Lottery, Samak cooking,
vote buying case moved from EC to CC, TRT, banned pols controling this govt.

Why would proxy Aye's for a quorum be thought too far out?


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  2008-10-12 08:08:12
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QUOTE (John45 @ 2008-10-12 07:48:30) *
QUOTE (annamaria4711 @ 2008-10-10 21:44:41) *
What a sham this is, Feudalism is alive and strong in Thailand.
How can any committee up hold a constitution that was only voted in by 30% of the Thai people.
The Coup makers constitution, who amended a constitution to save their own back sides
a constitution that was created in a democratic manner and agreed by the people of thailand freely in 1997 and not the one created 2 yrs ago under military rule.

The noose should be around PAD leaders neck, who are continuously depressing the poor.
Protectionist feudal lords who do not want the working class to benefit from the fruits of Thailand

The only benefits that the working class get are the baht from selling their votes. If only the guy that you worship would decide that he has got enough money now and concentrate his efforts for the good of the people..country.. then well you don't need me to say anymore do you!

Thinking about the a 30% figure, it must be at least that amount of the population who sell their vote. That is your democracy..that is one man one vote. Have a nice day.

Can you imagine if Thaksins non-paid taxes on sale of Shin Corp to Temasek
was divided equaly between EVERY person in Issan...
That would be a true boost to the country and the little people.

Can you imagine Thaksin agreeing to use his non-paid taxes in that way?
He didn't pay TAXES because he thinks HE EARNED IT, and can keep it.

He was only ever using the poor people to gain and hold power .
His only concern now is regain his money and power.
Apparently no matter what.


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