ok i have been driving a 2008 modulo civic, and i have been really happy with everything but the automatic tranny. loss of engine braking on any motorized vehicle unsettles me . that said it is rock solid at 150 kph + and great to drive over long distances. also, the front wheel drive is crap on long circular on and off ramps.

i have never driven a jazz, but i find it hard to believe that even if i can do 180, you could ever possibly feel confident at prolonged higher speeds. it appears to have a high center of gravity, tiny wheels and narrow wheelbase. it is admittedly a city car.

the city seems a great compromise between jazz and civic. lower center of gravity than jazz, and with some new rims, beefed up suspension and the new transmission, i cant see how the jazz coul be a better driving car. the jazz looks like a running shoe. the city looks pretty dam_n good. if only mugen had a part to replace the barbecue grill with mesh.

obviously i would prefer a bmw, but not willing to pay thailands tax markup.

Knew a Honda sales gal who said she regularly used the 'you likely wouldn't survive the accident anyway even with airbags in a City or Jazz... but you'll enjoy some great fuel economy' sales technique.

i have never driven a jazz, but i find it hard to believe that even if i can do 180, you could ever possibly feel confident at prolonged higher speeds. it appears to have a high center of gravity, tiny wheels and narrow wheelbase. it is admittedly a city car.

I've had my new City about 3 months now, and in that time, I've taken about 6 cross country road trips of about 3-4 hours highway driving. The City will cruise all day at 140 if you want, but I don't like to pay the BIB 200B every checkpoint, so I just go about 120.

Actually, according to Euro Napcap testnorms, with 2 airbags they are safer for occupants than any pickuptruck available in LOS.

Also they get these stars after taking the impact from the stationary force. If a loaded pickup truck crashes into tiny Jazz, the impact forces will be vastly different, and I doubt an extra star would matter that much.

Didn't the first Jazz there got only 3 stars? They might have improved since then. Triton got 3 stars, if I remember correctly, but here it comes without stability control. How does the latest Navarra fares in those tests?

Also they get these stars after taking the impact from the stationary force. If a loaded pickup truck crashes into tiny Jazz, the impact forces will be vastly different, and I doubt an extra star would matter that much.

The Jazz is not that small, not so long ago there was a test......... Big Concrete slabs placed across a runway a 'Smart' head-on at 70 MPH very big impact lots of damage but you could still open the doors, on the recording of the dummy inside the only injury could have been by the G-Force, they also did the same test with the new 'Corsa' about the same results, but on a older 90's Volvo 940 and a 90's 'E' Class the damage was bad, the engine moved into the cockpit, legs crushed, steering wheel hit chest, face hit, doors had to be cut open the damage to the body would have been 90% fatal..

valid point! And only the VTEC has two of them. All others only one for the driver. The VTEC is also the only model with rear disk brakes instead of drums. I wonder that they still dare to offer such medieval technology!

Pickup against Jazz? Lets try The jazz may look like sh-t, but passanger damage in pickup could be worse.

What do you reckon lads, any City owners wishing they had gone for Jazz ?

Any Jazz owners wishing they had gone for City ?


I'm thinking about buying one of these for the missus , but I'm not sure what model, I told her I'll give her my Fortuner and buy myself an Accord or Camry, but I can't justify it really, plus they lose a lot of money over the first 3 years.

To be honest, I feel the Fortuner can do anything The Camry or Accord can do, the same cannot be said of the Camry or Accord trying to do everything the Fortuner can do, but I'm still a big fan of both models!

So, I'll probably keep my Fortuner and maybe get a Jazz or City, I'm normally a Toyota man but I think the Jazz and the City have the upper hand over The Yaris and the Vios.


So, it's the City or the Jazz, what do you think ?

C'mon then Maigo whats it to be????

The Honda dealership has said it's a 2 months waiting period, that's too long really.

Choices, choices...How lucky were the people in old GDR....Wartburg or Trabbi...

There's new Proton with 125hp from the same engine and a sporty trim.

Ok Guys, I've been mulling this over............ and,

What about, I let the missus have the Fortuner and buy a new Honda Accord for myself !


Hence, both in my name.

Hey people! New to the forums here and considering buying a City or Jazz as well.

Hey, Keemapoot! Your city looked nice. Where did you order the customization? At the store where you got your car or somewhere else?

If I buy a city I too want to upgrade it a bit