Democrats And 40 Senators Press Charge Against Somchai Wongsawat

FROM TOC:

Democrats and Senators Press Charge against PM

UPDATE : 8 October 2008


A group of 40 senators have urged the prime minister to step down or dissolve the House to help restore the country's peace.

Meanwhile, the Democrat's legal team has pressed criminal charges against the prime minister for issuing an order for yesterday's crackdown on the PAD.

The Democrat Party's legal team, led by its Deputy Secretary-general, Thavorn Sennium, has submitted a complaint to the National Police Chief, Police General Patcharawat Wongsuwan, asking for legal action against Prime Minister and Defence Minister Somchai Wongsawat.

The opposition party said the prime minister has breached several articles of the Criminal Code as he issued an order that resulted in the loss of several lives.

If found guilty, Somchai could face the maximum sentence of capital punishment.

Sathit said the opposition Democrat Party can no longer allow Somchai to administer the country and legal action could be the best way out, as the party is still not allowed to hold a censure debate in the upcoming House legislative session.

Meanwhile, the party's shadow Defence Minister and former Third Area Army Chief, General Picharnchet Muangmanee said yesterday's use of homemade teargas by police officers was inappropriate as it can cause powerful explosions when mixed with pieces of glass or iron.

At the same time, some Democrat MPs such as Asi Mahamadyanggee and Yukol Chanawatpanya showed the press the wounds they suffered during their observation of yesterday's crackdown.

In a related development, 40 senators led by Bangkok Senator Rossana Tositrakul released a statement to deliver their condolences for the families of the people killed and for those injured in yesterday's crackdown on the PAD rally.

The group said Prime Minister Somchai should resign or dissolve the House, as the situation could deteriorate.

The senators will submit a complaint with the Administrative Court tomorrow to seek an injunction against the use of border police officers and teargas in dealing with the PAD rally. The PAD had submitted a similar complaint today and the court has already accepted the case.

Senator Prasarn Marukapitak said he will send pictures and evidence related to yesterday's crackdown to the United Nation's Human Rights Committee, the Human Rights Watch, and foreign ambassadors in Thailand for clariification of the incident.

Prasarn added that he will file a motion with Parliament, asking the prime minister to clarify his involvement and policies that are not in compliance with international practices, as well as the actions against officials related to the brutal crackdown.

The group of 40 senators also plans to file a complaint with the Constitution Court, seeking a trial on the possible share concealment of the prime minister and his daughter, Chinnicha Wongsawat, a Chiang Mai MP.

The group also visited PAD protesters and police officers who were injured in yesterday's crackdown.


Supreme Court Accepts PAD Petition for Temporary Injunction

UPDATE : 8 October 2008


The Supreme Court has accepted the People's Alliance for Democracy's petition for a temporary protection against more crackdowns or tear gas attacks on the protesters.


Is this why the police maybe need to infiltrate the PAD for to get the "alibi" for to start an other "crack-down" while bupassing the Supreme Courts decision as claimed in the following report?


PAD Claims Plain Clothed Police Have Infiltrated PAD Gathering

UPDATE : 8 October 2008

According to PAD's intelligence, plain clothed police have infiltrated the PAD's gathering and intend to set fire to the Metropolitan Police Bureau.

The alleged arson attempt would give the police the reason to launch another crackdown on the PAD protesters.

Well, duhh, of course the police have infiltrated the PAD, so have the military, the PPP and others! Don't know why this is particularly noteworthy.

Who does PAD's intelligence consist of, exactly? Do you have names? More heresay (pro-PAD progaganda), right?**english only please--sbk**

Because if all PAD supporters go home, Sondhi has still 1000 people there....

Well, the Democrats have certainly proven where their bread is buttered and it certainly isn't with the Thai voters!

You mean not supporters, just paid to be there ? IMHO, much more than 1,000 ....

Interesting to see that the only interest are about the PAD, but the criminal charges from other groups, here the Senators and the Democrats, are not interesting.

There's not the PAD only but others as well who're not conform with the government and against the action the government has taken against the PAD.

Unfortunate there a lot of, let say with this word: untrue reports about the PAD, special if it comes to the points of "paid" supporters and so on.

And where now those with the big mouth about the first death human a few weeks ago, while yesterday the result was not just a bit more high but a lot?! 2 death and more than 400 injured by the police and maybe others while using Teargas only?!

And a lot of you applaud about that tragedy!

IMHO that is a shame for a human being to show such character.

Notwithstanding all the complicated opinions from the farang on this board on this subject, I find this one of the most telling quotes I've seen.

If we accept the "Democrats=PAD='Thai elite' argument", then what is happening here? The Thai elite trying to garner international NGO support? This must surely be a first and (just perhaps) reflects quite well on this anti PPP movement.

OK PPP fans/ anti-PADs, slay me- it is an honest observation.

[EDIT: For typo]

This post has been edited by Slip: 2008-10-08 22:11:02

The question is: when you guy's will accept the truth?!

Unfortunate there just a few who didn't "run with the majority" and telling the truth about what they know about the PAD! But most of the others just posting what they read "somewhere" without to know the reality.

I know many PAD supporters, which are not rich, and no one of them get paid, not only that, they spend from the little they have for to help others which having less!

And don't forget: That's Thais which are fighting for "their" Thailand and not any foreigner!

And you should know that the Thais know much more about Thailand and the thai character and mentality and culture as any foreigner ever will know.

This is a fight from Thais for Thailand and foreigner have nothing to tell there. You can do that in your own country but NOT in Thailand!

Cheers.

Not so sure what you're talking about ...

But if it's about the poor guy who was killed by PAD supporters, I remember a number of comments in this forum: he was looking for trouble, he has only himself to blame ...

So get your facts straight before blaming anybody.

That's been the case for a long while, unfortunately. It's been a question of Democrat Party = PAD = support for the last coup d'etat. The Democrat Party knows darn well that they will never be voted in as the ruling party given Thailand's one-man, one-vote democracy.

Which surely makes this quote from Sr Prasam all the stranger- Trying to involve outsiders (and human rights groups of all things) {shudder} is not the normal Thai way historically speaking.

Talking about the Anti PAD posters who posted flaming and abusing post's against all PAD supporters about the one human death from the "other" site but didn't do the same now while 2 death and more than 400 injured by "legal" actions of the police.

That's the fact's! The rest you can read in my post!

Cheers.

What a pathetic rant! Do you honestly believe the elite give a toss about the muppets who are dumb enough to demonstrate

Who are you to claim to know better than Thais what's about Thais and Thailand?! You're exactly the one of those I was talking about. If you talk about your country, I would believe you but not if you talk about Thailand.

Cheers.

If foreigners "have nothing to tell", why are you posting here, MR. Moderator Reimar?

Just know what I observe! Oh, I suppose these PAD people are different form the PPP (or TRT) and not at all corrupt. To an outside observer the goings on in Thailand are beyond belief. Nationalism together with religion are a sure way to destroy a country from within.

Non of these people give a dam about the common man. I think the real problem is that Thais actualy understand very little - and like you jump straight in with the nationalist card whenever a foreigner makes an honest observation.

Thai Rak Thai - yes we know and your welcome

Oh, and I do actualy think that i know more than most Thais re. Thail polotics - because i take an interest and have a logical brain. It speaks volumes about your mentality when you intimate that purely by being Thai qualifys individuals to understand the peculiaritys of Thai politics!

This post has been edited by whatsoever: 2008-10-08 23:10:56

These people were killed by home made pipe bombs manufactured by PAD supporters, killed by their own stupidity. The police is doing a fine job. Again, get your facts straight !!

This post has been edited by Pierrot: 2008-10-08 23:05:23

Now reinforce your 'fact' that that this was done home made PAD pipe bombs by giving us the evidence.

You all know what I'm talking about!

Tell the truth only! And that's what isn't done in most of the cases here, it's just a repeating of readed reports pp, which in most of the cases not true or even censored for those who done the censor!

Don't forget that a foreigner will never understand the mentality, culture and character of Thais.

Don't forget that foreigner, and that's the most of you, are Guest in this country.

If you don't like what's going on here, go back to your country, but don't get involved as long as you stay in this country.

I've listen many times from many foreigner from different countries, that they wouldn't allow Thais to get involved in their country affairs. Why you claim to get involved here? You don't have any more right as others.

Be objective and don't "run" with the masses!

And don't use that name again Mr. Noname, or Fiction or Beachcom... or who ever you are, I mean YOU: way to go Fritz. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/clap2.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/cheesy.gif)

<Sigh> Unsubstantiated rhetoric, inflamatory nonsense. (Pretty dodgy) opinion. More rhetoric (confrontational type).

It seems the die hards on each of the 2 (4?, 6?) sides are as ridiculous and blinkered as each other. You all know who you are.

[EDIT: Typos/ Spelling as usual

and again to add that Lavidchr's use of a term like 'Fritz' to refer to our (presumably) German Mod reimar is racist and offensive and deserves a ban- Reimar is plainly too much of a diplomat to discipline this behaviour himself ]

This post has been edited by Slip: 2008-10-09 00:03:58

Erm...Pierrot...you oughta see a doctor...OR...stop watching NBT.

Unbelievable.

So what to discuss?

NodiscussionaboutThaivisa.com

Tell the truth only! And that's what isn't done in most of the cases here, it's just a repeating of readed reports pp, which in most of the cases not true or even censored for those who done the censor!

Don't forget that a foreigner will never understand the mentality, culture and character of Thais.

Funny. Lie when deemed necessary or just out of habit, and avoid personal responsiblity at all cost.

Not too tough really

This post has been edited by Canada: 2008-10-09 00:49:22