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Football Racialism, Hating the other supporter,why does this go on? |
2009-06-19 17:35:14
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It was bought to my attention by Mr msinghy on one of his post's when he invited fellow west ham supporters along to a trip to China but said that Tottenham Hotspurs supporters were not invited. Why are football supporters like this,it doesn't go on in other sports such as athletics,hockey,showjumping,netball and many more. I feel that it is about time that this type of hatred is stopped. I think we must try to learn to love our fellow supporter,i know a lot of supporters are jealous or envious of their fellow supporters teams especially west ham fans but this is no excuse. How about the next time you sit next to an opposing fan you hold hands with him, if his team scores you give him a little cuddle and say congratulations perhaps this sort of behaviour would go a long way to changing the way football supporters think. You never know, perhaps in the not too distant future we will have a scene of old singhy with his arm around a Tottenham supporter in China, a photo of that would be greatly appreciated and show that football supporters can love each other. This post has been edited by alfieconn: 2009-06-19 17:37:00 |
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2009-06-19 18:20:29
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A SAXXY Member ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Advanced Members Posts: 13,211 Joined: 2005-06-01 From: Manchester, Chaiyaphum, Saudi Arabia Member No.: 19,542 |
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2009-06-19 18:26:28
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2009-06-19 18:32:31
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Super Member ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Advanced Members Posts: 1,346 Joined: 2007-01-18 From: Bophut Member No.: 40,807 |
It's an IQ thing.
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2009-06-19 18:33:34
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QUOTE I think we must try to learn to love our fellow supporter,i know a lot of supporters are jealous or envious of their fellow supporters teams especially west ham fans but this is no excuse. Oh dear. And to think that I nearly took this seriously. BTW If you think that it only applies to football, then you've never encountered the rivalry that goes on in cricket, e.g. between my own team Essex CCC and Kent. Nor that between Lancs and Yorkshire, etc, etc. PS Perhaps it may be more helpful if you looked up the definition of racialism. This post has been edited by Happy Hammer: 2009-06-19 18:54:44 |
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2009-06-19 18:51:00
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Whilst i might have to pass up on the hug for fear of catching scabies or something other disease thats extinct in civilised society, i think the total hatred a small number of Newcastle and Sunderland have towards each other has gone too far, its at a point where youre not welcome by some in the opposite town.
Besides i think you nice London boys should keep all that cuddling that goes on amongst each other in the closet. |
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2009-06-19 20:46:13
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Perhaps it may be more helpful if you looked up the definition of racialism.
[/quote] What would be more helpful ? your sentence doesn't make sense ! what school did you go to ? I implied in my post that i didn't know the word for football supporters hating each, see the first line First of all what is the name for it ? so do you know the name for it ? Racialism was the wrong word that's why i added the rest of the quesion too the topic subject. |
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2009-06-19 20:50:04
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Actually, I can see it catching on amongst Spurs supporters as they are all gay, aren't they?
[/quote] What brings you to that conclusion young man, bye the way wasn't you suppose to be at school today ? |
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2009-06-19 20:50:39
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A SAXXY Member ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Advanced Members Posts: 13,211 Joined: 2005-06-01 From: Manchester, Chaiyaphum, Saudi Arabia Member No.: 19,542 |
First of all what is the name for it ? so do you know the name for it ? Racialism was the wrong word that's why i added the rest of the quesion too the topic subject. I don't really know if there is a word for it. But I would suggest Tribalism is nearer to the mark, than racialism |
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2009-06-19 20:55:28
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2009-06-19 21:40:21
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QUOTE What would be more helpful ? your sentence doesn't make sense ! More helpful in knowing what you're talking about. QUOTE First of all what is the name for it ? so do you know the name for it ? Tribalism ? Or in its most extreme manifestation, perhaps infantilism might be a more appropriate definition Peas
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2009-06-19 23:51:42
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First of all what is the name for it ? It was bought to my attention by Mr msinghy on one of his post's when he invited fellow west ham supporters along to a trip to China but said that Tottenham Hotspurs supporters were not invited. Why are football supporters like this,it doesn't go on in other sports such as athletics,hockey,showjumping,netball and many more. I feel that it is about time that this type of hatred is stopped. I think we must try to learn to love our fellow supporter,i know a lot of supporters are jealous or envious of their fellow supporters teams especially west ham fans but this is no excuse. How about the next time you sit next to an opposing fan you hold hands with him, if his team scores you give him a little cuddle and say congratulations perhaps this sort of behaviour would go a long way to changing the way football supporters think. You never know, perhaps in the not too distant future we will have a scene of old singhy with his arm around a Tottenham supporter in China, a photo of that would be greatly appreciated and show that football supporters can love each other. This is a wind up, 100%, it's got to be, & me is not gonna bite.. You've got more chance of me having a 2 week 18-30's Holiday in Karachi or Lahore than you have a Photo of me in Beijing with my arm around one of those people, but you never know, all depends on the Carslberg & what mood i'm in i suppose... Anyway, the Pond Life aren't even organising a Tour for their Supporters so a little Dickie Bird tells me... |
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2009-06-20 08:48:20
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Big Green Member ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Advanced Members Posts: 7,245 Joined: 2006-06-26 From: Bangkok, Udon, Toad Hall Member No.: 31,474 |
First of all what is the name for it ? It was bought to my attention by Mr msinghy on one of his post's when he invited fellow west ham supporters along to a trip to China but said that Tottenham Hotspurs supporters were not invited. Why are football supporters like this,it doesn't go on in other sports such as athletics,hockey,showjumping,netball and many more. I feel that it is about time that this type of hatred is stopped. I think we must try to learn to love our fellow supporter,i know a lot of supporters are jealous or envious of their fellow supporters teams especially west ham fans but this is no excuse. How about the next time you sit next to an opposing fan you hold hands with him, if his team scores you give him a little cuddle and say congratulations perhaps this sort of behaviour would go a long way to changing the way football supporters think. You never know, perhaps in the not too distant future we will have a scene of old singhy with his arm around a Tottenham supporter in China, a photo of that would be greatly appreciated and show that football supporters can love each other. |
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2009-06-20 09:07:03
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The Viscount - A Titled Member ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Advanced Members Posts: 4,668 Joined: 2007-09-23 From: Phuket Member No.: 52,326 |
Anyone up for a cuddle ?
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2009-06-20 09:16:38
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Science is fun until you poison yourself. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Advanced Members Posts: 3,176 Joined: 2007-05-31 From: Behind a desk. Member No.: 46,941 |
That photo explains why the sun set on the British Empire long ago. And the English complain about backwards "ethnic" immigrants?
Sort of sad, that the Iranian soccer team put their lives on the line when they wore those green wristbands before they were forced to remove them, and English fans still carry on as if they are at a revial of the Angles vs. the Saxons primitive grunting and rock throwing days of yore. |
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2009-06-20 10:31:34
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Geriatrik - For most football rivalry is a windup, and the fall of the British Empire was due to 2 world wars and the fact it was more of a trading network then an evil Empire similar to Darth Vaders.
And the guy in the pic is some famous Pompey fan who despite his appearance comes across as i decent enough sort in interviews and is not a hooligan. |
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2009-06-20 10:34:57
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That photo explains why the sun set on the British Empire long ago. And the English complain about backwards "ethnic" immigrants? Sort of sad, that the Iranian soccer team put their lives on the line when they wore those green wristbands before they were forced to remove them, and English fans still carry on as if they are at a revial of the Angles vs. the Saxons primitive grunting and rock throwing days of yore. You've done a lot of simplistic generalising in that post and the liberally applied some broad strokes with your tarnishing brush. Perhaps you care to name your nationality and whatever sport or activity interests you so we can return the favour? |
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2009-06-20 10:43:45
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Geriatrik - For most football rivalry is a windup, and the fall of the British Empire was due to 2 world wars and the fact it was more of a trading network then an evil Empire similar to Darth Vaders. And the guy in the pic is some famous Pompey fan who despite his appearance comes across as i decent enough sort in interviews and is not a hooligan. If i'm not mistaken, Mr Westwood is actually a Librarian & an Antiques Dealer... |
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2009-06-20 10:52:01
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Big Green Member ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Advanced Members Posts: 7,245 Joined: 2006-06-26 From: Bangkok, Udon, Toad Hall Member No.: 31,474 |
That photo explains why the sun set on the British Empire long ago. And the English complain about backwards "ethnic" immigrants? Sort of sad, that the Iranian soccer team put their lives on the line when they wore those green wristbands before they were forced to remove them, and English fans still carry on as if they are at a revial of the Angles vs. the Saxons primitive grunting and rock throwing days of yore. You've done a lot of simplistic generalising in that post and the liberally applied some broad strokes with your tarnishing brush. Perhaps you care to name your nationality and whatever sport or activity interests you so we can return the favour? I'm going to hazard a guess that Geriatrickid is from across the water, probably Canada or The States which would explain the lack of understanding. |
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2009-06-20 10:55:07
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Geriatrik - For most football rivalry is a windup, and the fall of the British Empire was due to 2 world wars and the fact it was more of a trading network then an evil Empire similar to Darth Vaders. And the guy in the pic is some famous Pompey fan who despite his appearance comes across as i decent enough sort in interviews and is not a hooligan. If i'm not mistaken, Mr Westwood is actually a Librarian & an Antiques Dealer... You mean - Mr. John Anthony Portsmouth Football Club Westwood. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-56...final-ever.html Quote from above link - By the standards of any club, he's unusual. He has travelled to every game, home and away, since 1980. In 1989, he changed his name by deed poll to John Anthony Portsmouth Football Club Westwood. He also has 60 Portsmouth tattoos on his body, the club crest shaved on to his head and "PFC" engraved on his teeth. John might look like a man possessed when he is watching football but, in reality, he is yet another Portsmouth curiosity. It is rather bewildering to find him going about his day job - he is an antiquarian book dealer in the pretty market town of Petersfield. "People look at me and think I must be some madman off a building site, but books are my life," he whispers as we meet in the family bookshop. His late father was a well-known book dealer, his brother is the Queen's paper conservator at Windsor Castle and John has written a book himself. Needless to say, it is about Portsmouth Football Club. |
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2009-06-20 11:06:45
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You mean - Mr. John Anthony Portsmouth Football Club Westwood. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-56...final-ever.html Quote from above link - By the standards of any club, he's unusual. He has travelled to every game, home and away, since 1980. In 1989, he changed his name by deed poll to John Anthony Portsmouth Football Club Westwood. He also has 60 Portsmouth tattoos on his body, the club crest shaved on to his head and "PFC" engraved on his teeth. John might look like a man possessed when he is watching football but, in reality, he is yet another Portsmouth curiosity. It is rather bewildering to find him going about his day job - he is an antiquarian book dealer in the pretty market town of Petersfield. "People look at me and think I must be some madman off a building site, but books are my life," he whispers as we meet in the family bookshop. His late father was a well-known book dealer, his brother is the Queen's paper conservator at Windsor Castle and John has written a book himself. Needless to say, it is about Portsmouth Football Club. Which funnily enough, all goes to show that you should never judge a book by its cover! |
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2009-06-20 11:16:08
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Geriatrik - For most football rivalry is a windup, and the fall of the British Empire was due to 2 world wars and the fact it was more of a trading network then an evil Empire similar to Darth Vaders. And the guy in the pic is some famous Pompey fan who despite his appearance comes across as i decent enough sort in interviews and is not a hooligan. If i'm not mistaken, Mr Westwood is actually a Librarian & an Antiques Dealer... You mean - Mr. John Anthony Portsmouth Football Club Westwood. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-56...final-ever.html Quote from above link - By the standards of any club, he's unusual. He has travelled to every game, home and away, since 1980. In 1989, he changed his name by deed poll to John Anthony Portsmouth Football Club Westwood. He also has 60 Portsmouth tattoos on his body, the club crest shaved on to his head and "PFC" engraved on his teeth. John might look like a man possessed when he is watching football but, in reality, he is yet another Portsmouth curiosity. It is rather bewildering to find him going about his day job - he is an antiquarian book dealer in the pretty market town of Petersfield. "People look at me and think I must be some madman off a building site, but books are my life," he whispers as we meet in the family bookshop. His late father was a well-known book dealer, his brother is the Queen's paper conservator at Windsor Castle and John has written a book himself. Needless to say, it is about Portsmouth Football Club. Well, i was close enough... |
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2009-06-20 11:41:21
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i think that john westwood is a dickhead who should have that bloody bell that he takes everywhere with him shoved up his arse.
but agree with the above, tribalism is what it is. which has its good points and its bad ones too. |
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2009-06-20 11:44:30
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I believe the bell was liberated in fair Wolverhampton
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2009-06-20 14:07:26
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QUOTE That photo explains why the sun set on the British Empire long ago. The sun ultimately sets on all empires. QUOTE And the English complain about backwards "ethnic" immigrants? Actually the word is backward and not backwards my ex-colonial (?) friend. Although to be fair, it's a long time since I heard of any Englishman say anything along the lines of that which you suggest. And he a white supremacist, i.e. one of the smallest decimal points of the population imaginable. QUOTE Sort of sad, that the Iranian soccer team put their lives on the line when they wore those green wristbands before they were forced to remove them, and English fans still carry on as if they are at a revial of the Angles vs. the Saxons primitive grunting and rock throwing days of yore. I never understood that those Iranian football players were putting their lives on the line. Nor was there any suggestion of such. Nevertheless, a small minority of football supporters across Europe (and Millwall supporters I hope that this helps. I'd be more than happy dispel any further prejudice -- based upon ignorance -- that you may harbour. This post has been edited by Happy Hammer: 2009-06-20 14:20:57 |
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