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North Korean Refugees View Thailand As "paradise", Kudos to Thailand for not deporting them back to North Korea
Jingthing
post 2009-07-01 13:09:11
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I just became aware that there is a modern day "underground railroad" (not literally a railroad) of North Korean refugees going to Thailand by way of China/Laos/Burma

http://www.voanews.com/english/archive/200...260112197161665

While their life isn't actually a paradise in Thailand and they are subject to arrest for immigration violations, they are mostly looking to use Thailand as a base to finally go to South Korea or the USA, it is heartening that Thailand offers them a beacon of hope, and unlike China, does not deport them back to prison and/or death in North Korea.

This is actually a positive story for Thailand but it is interesting that they don't seem to want to publicize this situation because that would encourage even more refugees, so that isn't so positive.

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post 2009-07-01 14:15:27
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I would think anywhere would be better than NK.

I would even choose NYC, and that's getting desperate!
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post 2009-07-01 14:28:14
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Here is the story of a true life hero who worked on the underground railroad to Thailand at the China border:

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Kim chronicles his effort to lead North Korean refugees through the 6,000-mile underground railway through China in this exposé of the astonishing day-to-day realities of famine, religious oppression, torture and sexual abuse in the most secretive and impoverished member of the axis of evil. The author, a former missionary, spent four years at the China–North Korea border building shelters and orphanages, and his access to government officials, journalists, aid workers and hundreds of North Korean refugees provide him a unique vantage point from which to synthesize current research and policy on conditions in North Korea with affecting real-life testimonials. His intrepid effort to help four North Korean teenagers avoid arrest and repatriation on the journey from northern China to the British consulate in Shanghai is riveting, as is his insider knowledge of the perilous route refugees navigate across the borders of China, Laos and Thailand. The author's compassion and astonishing ability to penetrate the Hermit Kingdom and lift its shroud of secrecy do much to ameliorate the book's chief flaws, the clunky prose and occasionally amateurish conjecture and derivative political analysis. (Aug.)

Escaping North Korea: Defiance and Hope in the World's Most Repressive Country by Mike Kim
OK, that axis of evil rhetoric is dated and embarrassing, but you get the point ...

And some more with photos: http://ngm.nationalgeographic.com/2009/02/...rea/oneill-text

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Scott
post 2009-07-01 14:31:23
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I would guess that it's a major hassle putting them on a flight to N.K.
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post 2009-07-01 14:34:59
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I am curious about the Koreans who become residents in Thailand. How many from the south vs. the north, and how many with legal visas vs. no visas.
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post 2009-07-01 15:32:14
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QUOTE (Scott @ 2009-07-01 14:31:23) *
I would guess that it's a major hassle putting them on a flight to N.K.

That's a cynical observation but oh well, whatever works. I imagine international pressure from western allies is also a factor, (it would be very bad PR to deport them to NK) but you also have to consider Thailand is a good friend of China, so whatever the reason, I give them credit for not caving in to China.

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post 2009-07-01 15:36:32
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I am from California and consider Thailand heaven.
I guess its all relative. Godspeed to all.
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post 2009-07-01 16:08:34
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Great Stuff. Triumph of the human spirit.

Thailand has pretty good relations with Sth Korea (and the USA) so it comes as no surprise to me the Thais accept them - Besides THAI - LAND is the Land of the free, is it not? To do otherwise would go against everything they believe in and leave them open to even more ridicule and criticism.

Maybe the Rohingyas and Karens will get a better deal at some time in the future.

Korean Companies in Thailand are active in many sectors mainly in manufacturing and travel related businesses. Korean manufacturers have set up factories producing a wide range of goods from plastics to electronics. Korean Tour companies in Bangkok cater for inbound tourists from Korea as well as outbound Thai and onward bound tourists and business travellers heading for Seoul and other destinations in Korea.

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post 2009-07-01 16:19:20
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Excellent.

However I need to point out that Thailand sends Laos people back to their deaths so they aint all heart ya know.
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post 2009-07-01 16:55:00
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QUOTE (TheLaughingMan @ 2009-07-01 16:19:20) *
Excellent.

However I need to point out that Thailand sends Laos people back to their deaths so they aint all heart ya know.


A few months back, reports saying Thai officials were sending the stateless Hmongs back to Laos. This were despite various reports by the Hmongs that the Laos soldiers were hunting them and would kill them if they were found in Laos.


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post 2009-07-01 17:06:25
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Laoatians are buffaloes.

North Koreans are baby pandas.

(checking quickly to see if my heart has been warmed by this thread)

Nope.

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post 2009-07-02 10:16:21
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QUOTE (Explorer @ 2009-07-01 16:55:00) *
QUOTE (TheLaughingMan @ 2009-07-01 16:19:20) *
Excellent. However I need to point out that Thailand sends Laos people back to their deaths so they aint all heart ya know.
A few months back, reports saying Thai officials were sending the stateless Hmongs back to Laos. This were despite various reports by the Hmongs that the Laos soldiers were hunting them and would kill them if they were found in Laos. Explorer


If the Hmongs did fight for the CIA it may be different. I persnally hope they can live happily in Minnesota. rolleyes.gif
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post 2009-07-02 13:34:43
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Why go to all the expense of flying them back to North Korea when you can make money selling them and their safe passage to South Korean refugee assistance charities?
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post 2009-07-02 13:49:13
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A deep bow to Thailand for not sending the North Koreans back. They are better of than in China.
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