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Opening A Small Coffee Shop In Bkk |
 2009-06-28 14:40:30
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Looking for general information on openning a small coffe shop. Here a few detail: Looking in buying a small franchise to sell coffee, myself and my thai wife would be owners, as probally it would be 51% her and 49% me. My sister -in-law would work and manage the shop. We are thinking just a small booth or a corner booth to start with. Maybe in the future then we would rent a space and build a shop( like starbucks). Looking for information on start-up of this bussiness. Thanks for the info |
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2009-06-28 16:02:52
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 221 Joined: 2004-08-11 From: Udon Thani Member No.: 12,032 |
QUOTE (sunnythai @ 2009-06-28 14:40:30)  Hi Looking for general information on openning a small coffe shop. Here a few detail: Looking in buying a small franchise to sell coffee, myself and my thai wife would be owners, as probally it would be 51% her and 49% me. My sister -in-law would work and manage the shop. We are thinking just a small booth or a corner booth to start with. Maybe in the future then we would rent a space and build a shop( like starbucks). Looking for information on start-up of this bussiness. Thanks for the info It's good that you're not stuck with some spot in mind, or have to use that space for some reasons, so if you can pick a new spot - then its about Location Location Location and according to the asian book of business - best avoid all in-laws, only immediate family members. Roast your beans on the premises if you can ... thenagain, all these will be over-ruled by the majority shareholder? |
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2009-07-03 01:58:43
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Smokin' Bald Member Group: Advanced Members Posts: 6,288 Joined: 2004-05-04 From: Chaing Mai /Oxford Member No.: 9,592 |
Bear in mind you will need more than 2 Thais working for you to substantiate your work permit...it was 4-1 when I had my last business.
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2009-07-03 13:36:48
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Newbie Group: Members Posts: 8 Joined: 2009-06-28 Member No.: 85,922 |
QUOTE (jerrylee @ 2009-06-28 18:02:52) QUOTE (sunnythai @ 2009-06-28 14:40:30) Hi Looking for general information on openning a small coffe shop. Here a few detail: Looking in buying a small franchise to sell coffee, myself and my thai wife would be owners, as probally it would be 51% her and 49% me. My sister -in-law would work and manage the shop. We are thinking just a small booth or a corner booth to start with. Maybe in the future then we would rent a space and build a shop( like starbucks). Looking for information on start-up of this bussiness. Thanks for the info It's good that you're not stuck with some spot in mind, or have to use that space for some reasons, so if you can pick a new spot - then its about Location Location Location and according to the asian book of business - best avoid all in-laws, only immediate family members. Roast your beans on the premises if you can ... thenagain, all these will be over-ruled by the majority shareholder?
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2009-07-03 13:38:31
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Newbie Group: Members Posts: 8 Joined: 2009-06-28 Member No.: 85,922 |
QUOTE (ThaiPauly @ 2009-07-03 03:58:43) Bear in mind you will need more than 2 Thais working for you to substantiate your work permit...it was 4-1 when I had my last business. I am not planning on working this just yet..........It will be managed by wife and sister-in-law........I will just go and have coffee...sometimes...... |
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2009-07-03 14:09:31
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Super Member Group: Advanced Members Posts: 1,614 Joined: 2006-10-17 From: Bangkok Member No.: 36,607 |
He doesn't need 4 Thais working there if he is already on extension based on marriage. Only if he wants to get extensions based on the business.
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2009-07-04 23:08:51
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Advanced Member Group: Banned Posts: 68 Joined: 2009-01-29 From: Rawai Phuket Member No.: 75,877 |
[quote name='sunnythai' date='2009-06-28 14:40:30' post='2835944']
Hi Looking for general information on openning a small coffe shop. Here a few detail: Looking in buying a small franchise to sell coffee, myself and my thai wife would be owners, as probally it would be 51% her and 49% me. My sister -in-law would work and manage the shop. We are thinking just a small booth or a corner booth to start with. Maybe in the future then we would rent a space and build a shop( like starbucks). Looking for information on start-up of this bussiness. Thanks for the info [/quote Franchise you must be F***in Joking !!! Just remember when you jump in the ocean you are no longer on top of the food chain. You mention Starbucks, check their recent track record, you think you can do better? if so, go for it, balls and all. Hope I'm not speaking soon to someone with no nuts. Don't want to predict the result, but I think you would be better off with a jug of hot water and a bag of Nescafe 3 in 1 at the entrance of the MRT. |
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2009-07-05 17:25:38
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Newbie Group: Members Posts: 8 Joined: 2009-06-28 Member No.: 85,922 |
QUOTE (madjbs @ 2009-07-03 16:09:31) He doesn't need 4 Thais working there if he is already on extension based on marriage. Only if he wants to get extensions based on the business. No not joking, just mention Starbucks as a reference.......you can start a small coffee shop for a couple thousand US dollars. I think that not too much to invest in Thailand. If it does not go well than you are only out that much. That usually what I send on a vacation. But thanks for the input. |
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2009-07-08 10:50:13
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The quality poster you can trust! Group: Super Moderators Posts: 5,750 Joined: 2003-12-03 From: Pattaya (where the hel_l is....) Member No.: 6,036 |
QUOTE (madjbs @ 2009-07-03 14:09:31) He doesn't need 4 Thais working there if he is already on extension based on marriage. Only if he wants to get extensions based on the business. not any longer, I'm afraid. Same rules apply to non-immi O and B visas! |
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2009-11-02 22:16:28
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Newbie Group: Members Posts: 9 Joined: 2004-08-05 Member No.: 11,902 |
Just an idea...with this Commercial Property in Pattaya
House with 584 Square Meters Land (Width 15 Meter x Length 39 Meter) is available for 6 years rent Address: No. 436/16 Pattaya Beach Road Soi 1 (opposite Sabai Lodge Hotel) FOR Rent = Six Years Contract (No Key Money) First 3 Years = THB 30000.– Monthly Last 3 Years = THB 40000.- Monthly FOR Sale = THB 30M. *For more information please contact owner directly at Tel. 081-8150137 |
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2009-11-04 19:40:17
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 412 Joined: 2007-05-17 From: On the top edge Member No.: 46,320 |
4 low skill non coffee fluent Thais on minimum wage
It's a grind Probably better investment buy your wife a nice present |
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2009-11-05 18:36:22
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Member Group: Members Posts: 24 Joined: 2009-10-06 Member No.: 92,939 |
QUOTE (RubbaJohnny @ 2009-11-04 19:40:17) 4 low skill non coffee fluent Thais on minimum wage It's a grind Probably better investment buy your wife a nice present You forgot to mention a present for the sister in law too |
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2009-11-05 18:52:40
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Super Member Group: Advanced Members Posts: 1,614 Joined: 2006-10-17 From: Bangkok Member No.: 36,607 |
QUOTE (raro @ 2009-07-08 10:50:13) QUOTE (madjbs @ 2009-07-03 14:09:31) He doesn't need 4 Thais working there if he is already on extension based on marriage. Only if he wants to get extensions based on the business. not any longer, I'm afraid. Same rules apply to non-immi O and B visas! So the work permit regulations now require you to have the 4:1 ratio as well? I can't find any info on this change of regulations, do you have a link? |
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2009-11-05 18:52:58
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 318 Joined: 2009-04-25 From: bangkok Member No.: 81,865 |
Also consider,coffee business have very limited period of sale,in morning before work and late afternoon maximum till 4 or 5 pm.
i hope you got my point? |
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2009-11-08 13:28:49
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Member Group: Members Posts: 29 Joined: 2006-05-28 Member No.: 30,370 |
He never said he was going to work in the shop, so he doesn't need a work permit.
If he doesn't need a work permit, there's no reason he needs to have 4 Thai employees. He just needs as many as it takes to run the shop. It seemed clear to me that his partial ownership of this business is totally unconnected to his visa status. He could have a type "O" visa based on marriage with a wad of money in the bank to get yearly extensions. |
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2009-11-18 10:06:39
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Member Group: Banned Posts: 15 Joined: 2009-11-17 Member No.: 95,503 |
2 scenarios.
lose medium amounts of money lose large amounts WhY? do people do things like this. all he doing is buying a job for sis in law. |
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Thanks, yes I don't have a spot but was thinking somewhere close to a university or mall in or around bangkok. and the majority shareholder is my wife and me....no inlaw involve.
