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  1. Drunk in the morning, clearly he has a problem.
  2. If you recall only days after the Brexit vote Johnson, Hannan and other Brexiters were asked this very question and the reverse rowing started immediately. None of them promised they could reduce immigration or even wanted to. The reaction of the interviewer says it all when Hannan makes that statement. http://www.newstatesman.com/politics/uk/2016/06/tory-brexiter-daniel-hannan-leave-campaign-never-promised-radical-decline
  3. The Daily Mail and Daily Telegraph are offering a reward to anyone who can find any red bus with that message painted all over it. It was a figment of your imagination, nobody ever talks about it on the Brexit side.
  4. "But nine in ten people want Britain to maintain free trade with the EU after Brexit, regardless of which way they voted in last year’s referendum." Which is what Boris Johnson and many of the principal players told us would happen should we vote Brexit. Difficult to see how that is going to happen.
  5. Perhaps you could give us some details of these absurd public sector pensions terms and conditions that you speak about.
  6. Yes that is a sentiment shared by many and really made clear by Kenneth Clarke in a commendable speech in the Commons recently. Many of us think this is a bad mistake but nevertheless accept the decision and wish our country well. Of course we cannot now expect to enjoy the same deal as we had when we were members of the EU but it is not in the interest of the EU for the UK to implode anymore than it is in the interests of the UK for the EU to collapse or the Euro to collapse.
  7. Oh well glad that is out of the way now for the next lie.
  8. 1945 - 1959 A peaceful Europe – the beginnings of cooperation The European Union is set up with the aim of ending the frequent and bloody wars between neighbours, which culminated in the Second World War. As of 1950, the European Coal and Steel Community begins to unite European countries economically and politically in order to secure lasting peace. The six founding countries are Belgium, France, Germany, Italy, Luxembourg and the Netherlands. From resistance fighters to lawyers, the Founding Fathers were a diverse group of people who held the same ideals: a peaceful, united and prosperous Europe. Lest we forget!
  9. "the fledging West Germany. Which was being nursed back from austerity by it's American occupiers." Already debunked but completely ignored by you as you continue with your ridiculous absurd narrative about the recovery of West Germany. Where the hell do you get the notion that West Germany was being nursed back from austerity, it was recovering from the devastation of the 2nd WW, is that what you call austerity? Again please don't compare the UK which had also suffered tremendous war damage but nothing compared to what Germany had suffered and before you go down that track, no I am not trying to absolve them from blame.
  10. Former US Chairman of the Federal Reserve Bank Alan Greenspan gives most credit to Ludwig Erhard for Europe's economic recovery. Greenspan writes in his memoir The Age of Turbulence that Erhard's economic policies were the most important aspect of postwar Western Europe recovery, even outweighing the contributions of the Marshall Plan. He states that it was Erhard's reductions in economic regulations that permitted Germany's miraculous recovery, and that these policies also contributed to the recoveries of many other European countries. Its recovery is attributed to traditional economic stimuli, such as increases in investment, fueled by a high savings rate and low taxes. However I am sure that somewhere you will find someone who agrees with your economic assessment for the recovery of Europe after the war based on "we got old German machinery and Germany got new machinery "
  11. Try looking at how much assistance the UK received under the same plan as Germany you might be better informed, but I doubt it will make any difference.
  12. Just to drag a few facts into this particular argument in the 4 years the Marshall Plan was in operation to assist with the rebuilding of Western Europe the UK received more than twice what Germany received. Then as we all know Germany became the powerhouse of Europe and the UK went into decline. I recall friends telling me that you could get 11 DM/£ and when I was working and living in Germany it had decreased to just over 4 DM/£ and I believe the figure just prior to the Euro was around 2. So Germany thrived on the back of a currency that was getting stronger year by year. (Now we are being led to believe that German success was due to all the aid they received after the war and latterly their cheap Euro) In 1973 the UK took the decision to join the EEC and our economy which was regarded as the sick man of Europe became blah blah blah as Khun Han likes to tell us.
  13. Yep when we joined our economy was such a rip roaring success and the EU dragged us down. As for abiding by every rule I seem to recall that we asked for a lot of special treatment and exemptions.
  14. Lets try again you said that the dispute would be referred to an international court. The ECJ is not an international court it is a European Court its made up of judges from European countries so I am assuming that any dispute referred to an International Court would be referred to the ICJ (which has judges from all over the world) not the ECJ which is an entirely different body of jurists, its international not European. and the courts are even located in different countries. Britain would still be bound by the judgments of international courts under any serious international free trade agreement with other countries, a leading legal academic has warned MPs. Professor Michael Dougan, one of the UK’s foremost authorities on European law, warned that Britain would still have to be overruled by a court in Luxembourg if it wanted to retain access to the European single market.
  15. Don't you even read what you write, its says International courts, how do the EU own those? Apart from it being located in the Hague it has nothing to do with the EU, you really are a very confused person.