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[RAZZELL]

RAZZELL, on 2007-02-26 22:35:48, said:

Although I do agree with you (a little), Burger King, McDonalds and KFC aren't exactly my idea of a tropical paradise either

RAZZ

And I forgot Pizza Hut


RAZZ

[SamuiJens]

RAZZELL, on 2007-02-27 09:53:04, said:

RAZZELL, on 2007-02-26 22:35:48, said:

Although I do agree with you (a little), Burger King, McDonalds and KFC aren't exactly my idea of a tropical paradise either

RAZZ

And I forgot Pizza Hut


RAZZ

And a Subway   on Samui?!!

[Buckethead]

LOL....

i know this is an old thread but i've been doing research. I know kinda going through every message board that has to do with this topic for the past 4 months. I've been staying in Samui for the past 4 months... my brother's been there for a total of a year.

I'm just doing a followup to this thread origional question on this thread... any new developments considering this was posted on  2007-02-03.

I just got back from Samui and yea, its depressing.

This is my 1st post on this forum and thought i would get to know the names of the people constantly posting and seem to know what they are talking about.

Thanks to all...

[happylarry]

I have just read through this whole topic and I am surprised that while all you people have been offerring advice fors and against, no one has informed the op that if he were to buy a bar in Soi Mango then he would only have three hours at the most each night to make his money. Soi Mango does not wake up till gone 11pm and shuts down (or is supposed to unless you pay extra) at 2am. Nothing at any other time.
And no I have never owned a bar and am offerring no opinions whatsoever.
HL

[SamuiJens]

Bars in Soi Mango are a dime a dozen, saw 4 for sale on one site, it's not what ppl think when they buy into one. They think ahhh...a bar and living in Paradise! NOPE most make a few baht and thats it, same all over the island, unless you got a perfect spot and have a good name(quality Place). Most go broke if they don't have a fat wallet! I wouldn't pay 1-2Mil. for these places. I'd like to know who would that live here.

[Mark Wolfe]

CCC if you are still out there, I have one question:
Why do you want to own/operate a bar?

[Mark Wolfe]

After just having a bizarre encounter with the English manager/owner? of a theme pub (and the Hooker in Chief), I have another suggestion for anyone thinking of opening a watering hole:
Please don't end up like so many of the proprietors here who sit around at their pub all day drinking themselves stupid. Maybe your life has ended up running a cruddy bar with infantile prostitutes and you can't work up enough money or enthusiasm to actually do something with your life more productive, but please, at least try to run the business you have professionally and with pride in your product, cleanliness and customer service.
Don't let the place turn into a hangout for a handful of your ragtag alcoholic "friends." You will end up nothing more than a pathetic loser, with "friends" whose only commonality is getting drunk in the same place every day.
Put some money back into upkeep of the place; don't let it become what so many of them already are: ramshackle and eyesores with no concern for an esthetically pleasing environment.
Oh and remember, stereos do have bass controls. You don't have to play tinny crap music at full volume just because the hayseed prostitutes like it that way.

[Munutkangkao]

Informative and entertaining thread it went in so many directions trying to maintain its course.  I would like to know the status of CCC now, did you make the move and open the bar?  
Nice to see there were people with positive input and encouragement for this type of venture.  This is always an extremely diverse topic that leans towards fear based arguments that really do no good for investment or tourism.  I hope their are people in Samui enjoying there business and new tropical life.  Focus, commitment and hard work applies as with anything you take on in life, but doing such on Samui and if it provides financial lively hood I think we would have to agree, envy we would feel.
Good luck to all and we can all agree that dreaming of such a life would be amazing if you get it right.

[BigC]

i thinki sometimes after u buy a bar u might get a vidit from a thai man. with a peice of paper showing his cut in %.

The way you talk about it sounds like a head ache to even think about it. if i was u i would save your money and go into a business tha you know more about.

if u bar a bar in green mango then u have to remember why people go. they go for girls and to get drunk. the probem is finding the girls. when the girls go. normally the bar goes.

then u need a thai partner.

arhh head ache just thinking about it.

well good luck as someone sid think u will need it.

you might also want a dj to bring in the crowd and a good manager and a good muma sam. there i allot of compition in green mango so u will have to work hard. there have been many bars open and close down there. the people who make the real money are the ones who own the land

Edited by BigC, 2010-03-24 09:28:27.

[stiggy]

Don t do it !

Use some imagination and invest your 40k in something different,

40 k could get you part way to a condo in BKK , buy one own it and collect rent while (hopefully) your investment increases.
Or if possible find a business or Franchise that cannot be copied.

Good luck

[Carib]

Times may have changed, the topic is dated 2007 ...................

[carmine]

Mark Wolfe, on 2007-02-04 21:54:40, said:

All the advice above is bullshit.
All people who buy bars get rich, at least here on Samui. The staff is cheap and the profits are great. Not only that, you get to shag all the girls who work in your bar as, er, hostesses for free anytime you want. You can drink all the beer you want for free too. You will be looked up to by all who come into the bar since you "own a business," which makes you a big swinging dick around here. Other bar owners will become your friends and will cooperate to help you with your business as you help them by organizing "pool nights" and "get drunk in each other's bar" nights. This way you will be spreading the love.
At the end of your stand in Samui, you can jack up the fee for "the bar is 'worth' such and such" on top of the key money and rent and all the rest. Never fear, if you wait long enough, there will be another rube, just as gullible as you were to buy the whole kit an kaboodle.

How is life like up there up in the clouds Mark?

Edited by carmine, 2010-03-24 10:19:10.

[screamingeagle]

Blimey! 4 pages and all very passionate posts!!! All I can say is that I have lived on Samui for 9 years. Had a bar for 5 years. Took me a year to sort out the usual crap: reliable manager, cashier, mama san, good looking and reliable gurls etc.. We're open from 12 midday till 2 AM. I make a reasonable living. I don't drink every day or even go to my bar everyday. I don't shag the gurls in my bar. I don't play disco music at 3000 decibels. I play rock music at a decent level. I pay the BIB 1000 baht a month and the odd drink and they look after me. Never had problems with the local "mafia". I have outside interests and friends.

[BigC]

screamingeagle, on 2010-03-24 11:20:18, said:

Blimey! 4 pages and all very passionate posts!!! All I can say is that I have lived on Samui for 9 years. Had a bar for 5 years. Took me a year to sort out the usual crap: reliable manager, cashier, mama san, good looking and reliable gurls etc.. We're open from 12 midday till 2 AM. I make a reasonable living. I don't drink every day or even go to my bar everyday. I don't shag the gurls in my bar. I don't play disco music at 3000 decibels. I play rock music at a decent level. I pay the BIB 1000 baht a month and the odd drink and they look after me. Never had problems with the local "mafia". I have outside interests and friends.

seems like your bar has a theme to it. if you have a good style then that should help. like any business resturants hotels bars. some fail some don't. thats why i would reckoment people stick to a business that they have a little inside info or experience.

if i was the op i would rent a bar for 6 months first before spending your life savins on 1.

[Rooo]

Resurrected Post. Nearly 3 years old.
CLOSED. OP hasn't been here close to a year.
Please start new one if need be.