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Advanced Member Posted 2007-04-04 10:41:50
Called them now....
Of course they never heard about either the problem or YouTube. Told them to do a Traceroute, and they answered that they cannot do that from their computers. They are not allowed.  At least after some minor arguing I got to talk to someone who spoke english perfectly. Never happened before. 
Edited by Hobox, 2007-04-04 10:42:16. #27
Star Member Posted 2007-04-04 10:48:25
Accessed it ok, but did see this on their opening page:
Quote YouTube will be undergoing scheduled maintenance, starting around 10:00 pm PDT. #28
Two years cancer free Posted 2007-04-04 11:23:56
There is a video posted there which is extremely insulting to HM the King and the Thai people
in general. That is why the site is blocked. #29
Advanced Member Posted 2007-04-04 12:01:31
There is a video posted there which is extremely insulting to HM the King and the Thai people in general. That is why the site is blocked. 
#30
Vampiric Member Posted 2007-04-04 12:09:36
How did you get that information? I called a couple of times and they still tell me they don't know. I don't want to press the poor customer service staff further if this is the case. It was discovered by one of the moderators who resides outside of Thailand. Also the URL to that particular video has been added to the bad word filter. Things like this can get websites blocked and Thaivisa.com doesn't want to be one of them! #31
Senior Member Posted 2007-04-04 13:20:42
I doubt it's a censorship issue. More like another bandwidth issue. I got green page first.. and then they realized they shouldn't do it so they change to "another bandwidth issue". #32
Advanced Member Posted 2007-04-04 13:46:03
Just called True helpline,
and after a 10 minute hold,the very polite lady very politely informed me in perfect english that Youtube has indded been blocked by ICT, thanks a bunch whoever insulted the Thai Monarchy,you've ######ed things up for all of us. 
#33
Platinum Member Posted 2007-04-04 13:59:28
I doubt it's a censorship issue. More like another bandwidth issue. Oh absolutly not... Test just made, on a PC with True ADSL in Bangkok. -direct connexion to www.youtube.com result : "server is taking too long to respond."... Unreachable. -then sec later a connexion to my PERSONAL (note to ADMINISTRATORS : MY PERSONAL) web p r o x y based in Canada. Then connexion to youtube.com Result : no problemo. So, it's rather difficult to imagine a problem of bandwidth.  [[[I found totally insane that my post was "edited". I dont give a way to use my personal w e b p r o x y ! I don't give a way to bypass the censorpship. I just proved that it was not a bandwidth issue]]
Edited by cclub75, 2007-04-04 14:06:16.
#34
Senior Member Posted 2007-04-04 14:01:53
Just called True helpline, and after a 10 minute hold,the very polite lady very politely informed me in perfect english that Youtube has indded been blocked by ICT, thanks a bunch whoever insulted the Thai Monarchy,you've ######ed things up for all of us. Isn't better to block just this movie and write to youtube MODs for remove it and ban user who put it and IP? #35
Star Member Posted 2007-04-04 14:03:27
thanks a bunch to whoever insulted the Thai Monarchy,you've ######ed things up for all of us. Absolutely...  God-######, mother-######ing morons... blocked here now...
Edited by sriracha john, 2007-04-04 14:06:34. #36
Hallucinatory member Posted 2007-04-04 14:23:14
On monday I was watching those prison vids on utube, and I'm pretty sure one comment made was a hugely insulting one liner referencing His Majesty.
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Gold Member Posted 2007-04-04 14:26:26
Just called True helpline, and after a 10 minute hold,the very polite lady very politely informed me in perfect english that Youtube has indded been blocked by ICT, thanks a bunch whoever insulted the Thai Monarchy,you've ######ed things up for all of us. blame the ppl who do the censoring, eg the ICT, not whoever posted whatever may have upset some ICT honcho. If content was posted that is actually illegal in Thailand, wouldn't the ICT be able to make a phone call and get YouTube to take it down? I am sad to see that there is so much energy put into censorship in this country - that's not the free-thinking Thailand that I know. Where for example transsexual boxers can become national legends. I am powerless to change it but it's sad. Spreading information on public forums on how to get around the censorship in an easy and comfortable manner is prohibited. And I am all too happy to oblige. 
Edited by nikster, 2007-04-04 14:27:30. #38
Advanced Member Posted 2007-04-04 14:28:03
Just had a thought,though I could be wrong(I often am
 ),would this offensive video have anything to do with the guy who recently got charged with Lese Majeste?, has anyone seen the offending vid in question? I know it would be very difficult to discuss without further offense(christ,is walking on eggshells all the time gonna be all our futures?), but I would like to have SOME idea... by the way,(sorry to put the wind up some of you)but has anyone noticed how sluggish TV has become lately?,I also got a few "Timeouts" recently...not good) Edited by QualityTouristNumberOne, 2007-04-04 14:31:26. #39
Star Member Posted 2007-04-04 14:41:55
[[[I found totally insane that my post was "edited". I dont give a way to use my personal w e b p r o x y ! I don't give a way to bypass the censorpship. I just proved that it was not a bandwidth issue]] We do not allow discussions of proxies or other methods of bypassing government blocking of websites. #40
Star Member Posted 2007-04-04 14:43:55
Just called True helpline, and after a 10 minute hold,the very polite lady very politely informed me in perfect english that Youtube has indded been blocked by ICT, thanks a bunch whoever insulted the Thai Monarchy,you've ######ed things up for all of us. blame the ppl who do the censoring, eg the ICT, not whoever posted whatever may have upset some ICT honcho. If content was posted that is actually illegal in Thailand, wouldn't the ICT be able to make a phone call and get YouTube to take it down? I'll have to disagree in that it would likely upset 63,000,000 Thais and not just some ICT honcho. Hopefully, the offending clip will get taken down very soon and access to the site restored. I'm wondering, however, how quickly youtube responds to complaints about videos that people or even an entire nation would find offensive. I've noticed it can take serveral days just to have a viewer comment added to a video, so, in a way, I can understand banning the site temporarily as the quickfix solution.In the end, I would still blame the morons who submitted the offensive clip. #41
Senior Member Posted 2007-04-04 14:57:53
Story is now being reported on FT.com, with the headline 'Thailand blocks YouTube over mocking video'. I'll not post the text or link to the story as I'm not sure how the mods will want to handle this.
#42
Vampiric Member Posted 2007-04-04 15:02:12
Story is now being reported on FT.com, with the headline 'Thailand blocks YouTube over mocking video'. I'll not post the text or link to the story as I'm not sure how the mods will want to handle this. I don't see any issues posting a news report on the subject (copyright permitting) - so heres a headline teaser and a link to the news article Quote Thailand blocks YouTube over mocking video By Amy Kazmin in Bangkok and Shawn Donnan in Hong Kong Published: April 4 2007 07:40 | Last updated: April 4 2007 07:40 Thailand’s military-installed government has blocked the popular website YouTube over a provocative video that mocks revered King Bhumibol Adulyadej, amid rising political tensions over the role of the monarchy in September’s military coup. #43
Platinum Member Posted 2007-04-04 15:07:44
Story is now being reported on FT.com, with the headline 'Thailand blocks YouTube over mocking video'. I'll not post the text or link to the story as I'm not sure how the mods will want to handle this. I don't see any issues posting a news report on the subject (copyright permitting) - so heres a headline teaser and a link to the news article Quote Thailand blocks YouTube over mocking video By Amy Kazmin in Bangkok and Shawn Donnan in Hong Kong Published: April 4 2007 07:40 | Last updated: April 4 2007 07:40 Thailand’s military-installed government has blocked the popular website YouTube over a provocative video that mocks revered King Bhumibol Adulyadej, amid rising political tensions over the role of the monarchy in September’s military coup. Any bets on whether YouTube will pull it? In the past they have told China, Turkey, Iran, and Brazil among others to stuff it because they don't want the stigma of being censors. Yahoo for example took a lot of flack for selling out to China. I am about 100 times more interested to see it now that it has disrupted things so much. #44
Senior Member Posted 2007-04-04 15:19:21
I get this message "We are currently performing site maintenance. While some functions of the site -- such as commenting on videos, video uploads, and new user registration -- are temporarily disabled, the basics of the YouTube site are still available."
So, essentially youtube is available for me, no green screen etc etc. ---Again TOT phuket. Edited by Pomthai, 2007-04-04 15:20:38. #45
Star Member Posted 2007-04-04 15:23:27
After 93 highly emotionally-charged, often extremely-profane and uncensored responses:
Quote Adding comments have been disabled for this video. Edited by sriracha john, 2007-04-04 15:24:04. #46
Platinum Member Posted 2007-04-04 15:24:39
Story is now being reported on FT.com, with the headline 'Thailand blocks YouTube over mocking video'. I'll not post the text or link to the story as I'm not sure how the mods will want to handle this. Oh my god... Another blow to Thailand's image. Okay so now, we could expect a U, or more probably, a Z-turn. That's so typical : -insane decision/action from thai authorities -world media cover -backfire -U or Z-turn As usual, some people will think "mai pen rai" and other sweet "TIT". But, all thoses bad news coming like a cascade from Thailand, dispatched by FT, Economist, Time and other Bloomberg... well that's not good for business. #47
Remember this member Posted 2007-04-04 15:26:16
I think that you may be jumping the gun here guys. I can access Youtube without any problem here in Bangkok.
I am with true. Cheers Rick. #48
Vampiric Member Posted 2007-04-04 15:29:24
i think your in the minority there bangkokrick
#49
Senior Member Posted 2007-04-04 15:31:20
Who cares ? Thailand has the right to block any transmission albeit terrestrial, Satelite or Internet just as any other country has, and most countries block something or other anyway.
#50
Star Member Posted 2007-04-04 15:33:58
The moron that submitted the video now has 522 Comments on his User Profile, including countless pleas to YouTube to delete the highly offensive clip.
(suffice to say, I would not want to be him... pissing off an entire country is not the smartest thing to do) Edited by sriracha john, 2007-04-04 15:36:49. |
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