[MJCM]

Hi,

when I was in Thailand, i went to school to apply for a student visum.
I got the letters from the school as described in the NON O ED requirments as listed on this website.

Now I was reading some more information about applying for this visa on the internet, I came across the following


This information is from: http://www.thaiwalen...udent_visa.html

First we will need to apply for a letter from the Ministry of Education requesting a visa for you. It takes between 2-3 weeks. Once you receive this letter you will need to go outside Thailand to one of the Thai consulates where you will be issued a non-immigrant ED visa. With this visa you will come back to us, we will certify your enrolment and this visa will be extended to a full year

My School did not apply for such a letter !!

What are my chances that I can get a student visum (I will be applying for this in my Home Country)

Regards
MJCM

[ajarnmark]

MJCM, on 2007-05-06 15:08:14, said:

Hi,

when I was in Thailand, i went to school to apply for a student visum.
I got the letters from the school as described in the NON O ED requirments as listed on this website.

Now I was reading some more information about applying for this visa on the internet, I came across the following


This information is from: http://www.thaiwalen...udent_visa.html

First we will need to apply for a letter from the Ministry of Education requesting a visa for you. It takes between 2-3 weeks. Once you receive this letter you will need to go outside Thailand to one of the Thai consulates where you will be issued a non-immigrant ED visa. With this visa you will come back to us, we will certify your enrolment and this visa will be extended to a full year

My School did not apply for such a letter !!

What are my chances that I can get a student visum (I will be applying for this in my Home Country)

Regards
MJCM

I am not sure which school you are applying for. However, I know two students from Siam University and ABAC who got the visa without any letter from MOE. This visa is Non-Immigration-ED (NON ED) visa and not NON O ED visa.

[MJCM]

Hi,

I applied for a private school !!

I paid the fee already, and I got a letter from the schools administrator and some photocopies of school registration documents.

MJCM

[marquess]

MJCM, on 2007-05-06 08:08:14, said:

Hi,

when I was in Thailand, i went to school to apply for a student visum.
I got the letters from the school as described in the NON O ED requirments as listed on this website.

Now I was reading some more information about applying for this visa on the internet, I came across the following


This information is from: http://www.thaiwalen...udent_visa.html

First we will need to apply for a letter from the Ministry of Education requesting a visa for you. It takes between 2-3 weeks. Once you receive this letter you will need to go outside Thailand to one of the Thai consulates where you will be issued a non-immigrant ED visa. With this visa you will come back to us, we will certify your enrolment and this visa will be extended to a full year

My School did not apply for such a letter !!

What are my chances that I can get a student visum (I will be applying for this in my Home Country)

Regards
MJCM

If your in a position to get a single Non Immigrant O or Non Immigrant B, the this can easily be extended once you have registered at your school. This is the way I did it!

This post has been edited by Jai Dee: 2007-05-22 12:17
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[MJCM]

No that is not a possibilty for me !! I am back in Home Country and I just was checking the internet and I came across that piece of information. I send a email to the school already if they can help me.

Thx
MJCM

[Maestro]

MJCM, forget what you read on the website you quoted. The information is wrong and to me it seems just a racket by that particular school to extract an extra THB 29,500 from its students.

Take the documentation you have from your school and apply for your non-immigrant visa type “Ed” at a Thai consulate in your country.
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Maestro

//Edit: Correction: no racket. Price quoted by the school is for tuition, not visa.

This post has been edited by Maestro: 2007-05-06 19:59

[mbkudu]

Maestro, on 2007-05-06 19:26:16, said:

MJCM, forget what you read on the website you quoted. The information is wrong and to me it seems just a racket by that particular school to extract an extra THB 29,500 from its students.

Take the documentation you have from your school and apply for your non-immigrant visa type “Ed” at a Thai consulate in your country.
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Maestro

I believe the 29,000 baht is for the tuition costs of learning Thai language. I read this today just by chance. The school is called Walen Thai Language. They claim they can get a non-imm ED visa with a minimum of two 50 minute Thai lessons a week for a period of one year. Maximum is two years. Sounds dubious.

This post has been edited by mbkudu: 2007-05-06 19:37

[Maestro]

mbkudu, on 2007-05-06 14:36:25, said:

I believe the 29,000 baht is for the tuition costs of learning Thai language.

Yes, now that I have read the webpage more carefully I see it the same way.

To the best of my knowledge, a non-Ed visa can be obtained without the schools obtaining a letter from the Ministry of Education confirming the applicants enrolment at the school. The enrolment confirmation of the school itself is usually sufficient.

The school does not apply for the visa; the student applies.

A one-year non-Ed visa would be a multiple-entry visa and it is not true that with this visa the student does “not have to leave Thailand every now and then but can stay here continually for one year”. The student would have to leave and re-enter
Thailand at least every 90 days.

In the OP’s case, he can apply for a single-entry non-Ed visa and then at the local Immigration office in Thailand apply for an extension of stay to one year, provided his enrolment covers that long a period. After the first year is over and if he continues to be enrolled for study, he can make a new application for an extension by another year.

I remember reading in another post that ten hours per week (2 hours per day, five days a week) is indeed the minimum number of hours of school lessons required for an extension of stay for study.
--
Maestro

[MJCM]

Hi

I have applied and (paid already) to study 2 hours per day, Six days a week

Regards
MJCM

Ps: The Study Fee I paid was well over 29000 Baht

[mbkudu]

Maestro, on 2007-05-06 20:14:32, said:

A one-year non-Ed visa would be a multiple-entry visa and it is not true that with this visa the student does “not have to leave Thailand every now and then but can stay here continually for one year”. The student would have to leave and re-enter
Thailand at least every 90 days.

Maestro[/size]

This is not true. I know because I have had a non-immigrant ED visa for a full year and have never had to leave the country once during this time. I will renew the visa on May 16th at Suan Plu making it another year without leaving the country. It is not a multi-entry visa. If it was, it would interfere with exams too much. I still must report at immigration every 90 days, but I remain in Thailand. Now that the full year is up, I have a new letter from the director of the school confirming that I am still attending full time. With this letter (like the first time I applied for the visa) and 1,800 baht I will get another 1 year extension. The rest of your post appears to be correct as far as I can see.

This post has been edited by mbkudu: 2007-05-06 23:16

[lopburi3]

You have an extension of stay for one year from Immigration and the cost should be 1,900 baht. You should not need to report to immigration every 90 days but you need to report your address every 90 days (which can be you or someone for you).

[mbkudu]

lopburi3, on 2007-05-06 23:13:43, said:

You have an extension of stay for one year from Immigration and the cost should be 1,900 baht. You should not need to report to immigration every 90 days but you need to report your address every 90 days (which can be you or someone for you).

Right, 1,900 baht, but the important thing is, is that he does not have to leave the country every 90 days as was posted earlier, just 90 day reporting.

This post has been edited by mbkudu: 2007-05-06 23:19

[lopburi3]

Below is the paragraph that covers extension of stay.

Quote

In the OP’s case, he can apply for a single-entry non-Ed visa and then at the local Immigration office in Thailand apply for an extension of stay to one year, provided his enrolment covers that long a period. After the first year is over and if he continues to be enrolled for study, he can make a new application for an extension by another year.

[mbkudu]

lopburi3, on 2007-05-06 23:25:03, said:

Below is the paragraph that covers extension of stay.

Quote

In the OP’s case, he can apply for a single-entry non-Ed visa and then at the local Immigration office in Thailand apply for an extension of stay to one year, provided his enrolment covers that long a period. After the first year is over and if he continues to be enrolled for study, he can make a new application for an extension by another year.

Sorry, I didn't everything carefully enough. Maestro's post was on the money depending on the length of study.

This post has been edited by mbkudu: 2007-05-06 23:32

[Maestro]

Mbkudu, you are mixing up visas on one hand with entry stamps and extension stamps on the other hand.

A visa is obtained from a Thai consulate, outside Thailand, and allows you to travel to Thailand.

An entry stamp gives you permission to stay in Thailand until a certain date.

An extension stamp extends the permitted period of stay, gives you permission to stay in Thailand until a later date than the date stamped previously in your passport.
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Maestro

[mbkudu]

Maestro, on 2007-05-06 23:43:15, said:

Mbkudu, you are mixing up visas on one hand with entry stamps and extension stamps on the other hand.

A visa is obtained from a Thai consulate, outside Thailand, and allows you to travel to Thailand.

An entry stamp gives you permission to stay in Thailand until a certain date.

An extension stamp extends the permitted period of stay, gives you permission to stay in Thailand until a later date than the date stamped previously in your passport.
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Maestro

I'm pretty sure I understand the difference. I applied for school, got a letter from the director, sent the letter, the visa application and the fee to the Thai consulate from my home country. They sent my passport back with the ED visa in it. I then traveled to Thailand, stayed three months, went to immigration with a new letter from the school saying I had paid tuition and was attending class. I was given another 9 months extension (3 months + 9 months = 12 months). I was told that I must report my address every 90 days, but do not have to leave the country. I have been here for 1 year and will go to immigration on the 16th for another 1 year extension. I have to show them another updated letter from the school and give them 1,900 baht. That's about the extent of it.

[Maestro]

Now, you’ve got the terminology right, mbkudo, saying visa when you mean visa, and saying extension when you mean extension, and everybody will understand it clearly. Thank you for having clarified that.
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Maestro

[mbkudu]

No problemo el Maestro.

[kokotorrio]

MJCM, on 2007-05-06 15:08:14, said:

Hi,

when I was in Thailand, i went to school to apply for a student visum.
I got the letters from the school as described in the NON O ED requirments as listed on this website.

Now I was reading some more information about applying for this visa on the internet, I came across the following


This information is from: http://www.thaiwalen...udent_visa.html

First we will need to apply for a letter from the Ministry of Education requesting a visa for you. It takes between 2-3 weeks. Once you receive this letter you will need to go outside Thailand to one of the Thai consulates where you will be issued a non-immigrant ED visa. With this visa you will come back to us, we will certify your enrolment and this visa will be extended to a full year

My School did not apply for such a letter !!

What are my chances that I can get a student visum (I will be applying for this in my Home Country)

Regards
MJCM

Hi
I am studying academic Thai at Payap university Chiang Mai, I entered thailand with a tourist visa in august. As I applied last october for the course, the university issued a letter for me to change my tourist visa in a non immigrant (3month visa), what I did at immigration BKK without having to leave the country. After 2 months I got another letter from the university to convert the 3month visa into a 1 year NON IM ED visa, wich I did at immigration in Chiang Mai, so I got one year counting from my arrival in Thailand. Now I just have to report my adress every 3 months without leaving the country. If you want to get out of the country and come back, you have to buy the permit at immigration, so you do not loose the visa.
The minimum you have to study at Payap university is one semester wich costs 39000 bath there is no fee for the visa as far as I know.

[cooL_guY_corY]

thought i'd jump in here rather then make a new thread : I am going to be studying full time at university, when i apply for a my NON ED visa at home, i should just apply for single entry and then after 90 days just get the 1 year extension at IMM right ? Theres no to ask for a multi entry NON ed visa right ( at home ) ?

[ovenman]

cooL_guY_corY, on 2007-05-07 13:22:18, said:

Theres no to ask for a multi entry NON ed visa right ( at home ) ?

Assuming that in your situation you will be able to obtain a one year extension from your initial ninety-day entry, there would be no reason to obtain a one-year multi-entry visa. You need to assess the likelihood of that extension being issued.

[cooL_guY_corY]

ovenman, on 2007-05-07 13:38:59, said:

cooL_guY_corY, on 2007-05-07 13:22:18, said:

Theres no to ask for a multi entry NON ed visa right ( at home ) ?

Assuming that in your situation you will be able to obtain a one year extension from your initial ninety-day entry, there would be no reason to obtain a one-year multi-entry visa. You need to assess the likelihood of that extension being issued.

Ah ok, thats kind of what i thought. As far as i am concerned i think i have 99% chance of getting the extension because i'd be a fulltime student at a major university, although obviously you have to be ready for anything in the tropics right ? thanks for the help!