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[nikster]

palm, on 2007-05-17 09:31:48, said:

nikster, on 2007-05-17 07:54:28, said:

Fortuner - well all reviews say this is a great car, and guess what, it really is a great car. There is only one version with manual gearbox, and it's low-end.
There really is no downside to the Fortuner, except that everyone else has one

The Fortuner manual version I saw last week in the showroom is the 3.0 version. Is the manual cheaper only because it's not an automatic? I'd really prefer a manual and didn't realise any other major specs were different.

Well I guess it depends on the dealer. Our dealer basically didn't want to sell us the manual. They just told me that I can't have leather seats in the manual version - manual was a 3.0 diesel, BTW.

In hindsight, I don't believe this actually - I have seen Fortuners with manual and leather for sale 2nd hand so there are ways. If you go to a dealer that doesn't have a lot of business you will probably have an easier time getting the manual

The manual is cheaper - auto costs money.

The auto is pretty good though.

[nikster]

Rooo, on 2007-05-17 09:04:27, said:

Look at the Ford Territory.

http://www.ford.co.t...e...e&c=DFYPage

teeensy-weensy downside to this car: starting at Baht 3M

If you are looking to spend that much over value, there's also a whole range of other cars to consider...

[Plus]

I remember climbing inside Territory at last year's motorshow, I checked the rear seat configuration, all the cubbyholes, everything. The last thing I asked was the price - 3 million baht!!!! For what? It doesn't look or feel anything like Lexus, in fact it felt cheaper than pickup trucks on show.

[palm]

nikster, on 2007-05-18 19:27:48, said:

palm, on 2007-05-17 09:31:48, said:

nikster, on 2007-05-17 07:54:28, said:

Fortuner - well all reviews say this is a great car, and guess what, it really is a great car. There is only one version with manual gearbox, and it's low-end.
There really is no downside to the Fortuner, except that everyone else has one

The Fortuner manual version I saw last week in the showroom is the 3.0 version. Is the manual cheaper only because it's not an automatic? I'd really prefer a manual and didn't realise any other major specs were different.

In hindsight, I don't believe this actually - I have seen Fortuners with manual and leather for sale 2nd hand so there are ways. If you go to a dealer that doesn't have a lot of business you will probably have an easier time getting the manual

Thanks for the tip - there are 3 or 4 Toyota dealers in my area so I'll get the GF to go and play them off against each other. She'll enjoy that.

It was of course quite amusing to hear each sales person in Toyota, Izuzu and Ford completely slag off the competition. I always ask them if they changed jobs to work for the competitor, would they still have the same opinion? You can see their brains overheat immediately as they try to work out what to say.

I guess I'll just have to hire them for a couple of days and go on a long drive.