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[soundman]

Steely Dan, on 2007-06-15 10:56:32, said:

Truth imitating fiction perhaps?

A real possiblity...



Soundman.

[kenk3z]

I ran the Thai characters for the project's code name through the transliteration computer program and it came back:

SuwannaBOOM



kenk3z

[rafval]

bronco, on 2007-06-12 16:48:05, said:

rafval, on 2007-06-12 15:46:28, said:

aside from the practical issues there are the ecomonic, uranium isnt going to last much longer then oil, and with everyone deciding it is some kind of endless energy supply that isnt contributing to global warming I imagine the cost of uranium will have gone up substatualy by the time it is built, let alone the remainder if its life, I predict there will be a lot of half built nuclear reactors around the planet soon, countries really need to think about putting their money into developing sustainable energy, they are going to have to in less then 50 years anyway so why not put the money into it now and get a head start on the rest of the world, but I guess the fortune tellers that make these decisions arent to clued up on reality

you are tripping mate, everywhere they dig in northern South Australia, Uranium is popping up.
Olympic Dam at a conservative estimate will produce for another 70 years.
There are at least 20 other claims that are in the offing

thats the point, so at current use they will get 60 years, but concidering every country on the planet is thinking of going nuclear I think it can be assumed that thats more like thirty, then what?

[wintermute]

I wonder how Thailand's neighbors feel about it going "nuclear" ? I also wonder what treaty plans they have planned in case of an environmental disaster concerning a plant failure.

[PeaceBlondie]

Maybe I'm ignorant, but I can't imagine starting something when you have no, absolutely no idea how to finish it. The used radioactive material would still be radioactive after one hundred Chakri dynasties have lived and died, maybe ten times the current Buddhist date of 2550...in what language and alphabet do you engrave the warning signs on the containment capsules? What material has been shown able to encase uranium for 298,859 years?

[Mid]

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What material has been shown able to encase uranium for 298,859 years?

good old fashioned dirt .

[JR Texas]

Mid, on 2007-06-16 15:20:49, said:

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What material has been shown able to encase uranium for 298,859 years?

good old fashioned dirt .

JR Texas: I think salt........but, that said, I am sure the insurgents down south are breaking out the champagne.....or getting ready to.

[Mid]

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JR Texas: I think salt

think Australia .

[rychrde]

Mid, on 2007-06-16 18:20:45, said:

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JR Texas: I think salt

think Australia .

Glass



maybe Chang beer co can dispose of the stuff.

actually, seems like a lot of mega-projects being announced. Wish they'd announce some better education. Without it, no hope of doing much apart from buying everything from the first world.

rych

[brahmburgers]

Sacramento California had a working nuclear power plant up until about 15 years ago. The citizens organized against it - after it was up and running - and wound up closing it down. One could say the regional citizens got well-informed and did the wise thing. Environmental and safety concerns were the main reason for the closure, but the lax security situation added to the concerns of the protesters. The whole closure procedure happened in a peaceful civil manner, with debates and votes. There was no violence or undue manipulations in the process. Can you imagine such an important process happening in in a civil manner in Thailand?

For an alternative, my 2 satang worth = HEMP

On multiple levels, hemp could greatly ease the power shortages that are predicted. It's not psychosomatic by the way (it can't get you high). Hemp grows like a hardy weed on poor soils. Its dried stalks could be burned to generate power. After all, that's basically what a heat-powered power plant is: a means to boil water to generate steam to drive turbines. The smoke could readily be 'scrubbed'. Those familiar with hemp know that it's has a bunch of other attributes: oil that's nutritious and can be used as a fuel, cloth, beauty products, construction material, to name a few.

Solar and wind would also be very wise alternatives. Perhaps the higher-ups who are pushing for nuclear are the same ones who consult fortune tellers, and the same ones who pushed through the construction of SUV airport.

[jumnien]

The push for nuclear energy is funded by the same corporations behind the global-warming scare. Follow the dots!

[brahmburgers]

Thailand needs a nuclear power plant like it needs another aircraft carrier ....like it needs another airport in a swamp that will be under water in ten years.

[brianinbangkok]

They can't even supply houses with electricity that does not blackout complete districts on a daily basis, and that's in Bkk.
Same goes for water supply, phones lines and internet nothing runs reliable here in Thailand.

Thai engineering will likely not be of high enough standards to run a nuclear generator safely , to take away any doubt in my mind I just add the corruption that will cut corners to allow them to steal money during construction.
"Nah those cooling pipes can be smaller then the specifications" , as he puts money he saves on buying bigger pipes in his pocket.....
This will be a disaster if they decide to go ahead with Nuclear !

Edited by brianinbangkok, 2007-06-17 10:27:24.

[Ping]

Will they use Thai construction teams to build it? If so, no problem in sight for years...

[markg]

brahmburgers, on 2007-06-17 08:54:18, said:

For an alternative, my 2 satang worth = HEMP

On multiple levels, hemp could greatly ease the power shortages that are predicted. It's not psychosomatic by the way (it can't get you high).

Titter !
Its not psychoactive you mean. Psychosomatic is something completely different.
That's the problem with smoking too much weed.
It makes you forget things.

And another thing - It makes you forget things.

[Crossy]

I'm all for nuclear, you're far less likely to die of something nasty living next to a nuke power plant than next to a coal one (actually that's no longer true with the new coal fired stations), things will be even better if we ever get fusion working.

BUT

Nuclear in LoS, NO WAY, as others have noted there's just too much risk of iffy construction etc. I just hope we never add Thailand to this list of major accidents http://www.infopleas...a/A0001457.html

[dogleg]

mdeland, on 2007-06-17 08:57:51, said:

The push for nuclear energy is funded by the same corporations behind the global-warming scare. Follow the dots!

I was going to ask about that. Just why is it that just about every government in the world has recently gone nuclear loony?
It's obvious where the dots lead, but where - which same corporations - do they start?

Is it those darned Aussie uranium miners mentioned earlier?

[dogleg]

dogleg, on 2007-06-18 11:55:23, said:

mdeland, on 2007-06-17 08:57:51, said:

The push for nuclear energy is funded by the same corporations behind the global-warming scare. Follow the dots!

I was going to ask about that. Just why is it that just about every government in the world has recently gone nuclear loony?
It's obvious where the dots lead, but where - which same corporations - do they start?

Is it those darned Aussie uranium miners mentioned earlier?

In fact, dont bother. It's a circle innit? In one pocket, out the other.

Any one got a link with the gen on Solar power panel manufacture causing untold enviromental damage instead?

[Mid]

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Any one got a link with the gen on Solar power panel manufacture causing untold enviromental damage instead?

not hard

[rychrde]

Here is 'join the dots' link about what's really going on.

http://www.uic.com.au/nip04.htm

number of nuclear warheads worldwide is now only about one third of the number just 20 years ago... and falling.

rych

[Artisan]

This is frightening...really frightening. Imagine the worst conceivable nuclear reactor accident: the reactor core goes critical, overheats, a meltdown starts and the Thai guy at the control panel is red-green colour blind just like his fellow countrymen on the Sukhumvit Road!! Holy cr@p!!!!

[Ping]

The first sign of problems will be the two-headed jingjoks. Next, the spare/strange parts on people (like the man hands on Artisan's avatar girl).

[qualtrough]

If this idea ever reaches the construction stage RUN FOR YOUR LIVES!!!!!!!

[octagon]

Thailand going nuclear? Who thought this one up?

[Artisan]

Ping, on 2007-06-20 07:33:37, said:

The first sign of problems will be the two-headed jingjoks. Next, the spare/strange parts on people (like the man hands on Artisan's avatar girl).

Whoops......well spotted Ping! But I suppose it takes one to know the difference!!!!!