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[tatom]

I dont understand why one must have a certificate of residency to get a yellow book. To get the certificate, you must provide the same information they ask for to get the yellow book, except the witnesses. So, you are really going through the process twice.

[RubbaJohnny]

If you ask why ,quite correctly.you will get a headache
There s my way Thai way and their way

[billd766]

tatom, on 2008-02-14 10:46:25, said:

I dont understand why one must have a certificate of residency to get a yellow book. To get the certificate, you must provide the same information they ask for to get the yellow book, except the witnesses. So, you are really going through the process twice.

I don't understand it either and having had a rant at my wife about it (she opened both ears to let it pass through) I will be going up to Mae Sot in a few days to collect one and make a 90 day report at the same time.

Go with the flow and keep your blood pressure down.

I felt better after the rant though.

[Dave the Dude]

The staff of the Amphur need documentary proof from Immigration that Immigration are satisfied with your residential status in Thailand.
Seems reasonable to me.

Not Sprocket Science  

Dave

[sinbin]

maprao, on 2008-02-13 02:06:40, said:

I am still working out what the benifits of having one are...... I have come up with one which is useful for me and that is not needing to go to my embassy to obtain a letter anymore for Driviving lic etc

I too am trying to work out "what the benefits of having one are...."? I haven't got one and don't want one. I personally think it's obtained by paranoid married men who aren't too sure that their relationships are stable. By having the 'Yellow Book', and having their relationship go pear shape, it's then, probably, used as a consolation that they come away with some dignity. For me, I've only paid out what I can afford to lose, a standard necessity in Thailand, in a few peoples honest opinions.

PS. 'Maprao' you have never had to go to an Embassy to get a letter for a "Driving lic" in the years I've been here. You get the letter from the Immigration Office, surely ?

Edited by sinbin, 2009-10-07 16:21:30.

[Dave the Dude]

sinbin, on 2009-10-07 16:17:53, said:

maprao, on 2008-02-13 02:06:40, said:

I am still working out what the benifits of having one are...... I have come up with one which is useful for me and that is not needing to go to my embassy to obtain a letter anymore for Driviving lic etc

I too am trying to work out "what the benefits of having one are...."? I haven't got one and don't want one. I personally think it's obtained by paranoid married men who aren't too sure that their relationships are stable. By having the 'Yellow Book', and having their relationship go pear shape, it's then, probably, used as a consolation that they come away with some dignity. For me, I've only paid out what I can afford to lose, a standard necessity in Thailand, in a few peoples honest opinions.

PS. 'Maprao' you have never had to go to an Embassy to get a letter for a "Driving lic" in the years I've been here. You get the letter from the Immigration Office, surely ?

What a strange attitude seeing as this book gives absolutely no more legal rights to property ownership(assuming you already know that ).
I got a yellow book because with it you no longer need Residence letters and its a good form of ID without carrying round your passport. PLUS it was FREE. It also shows you to be more than a lowly tourist in National Parks ect.

All that has Fark Hall to do with any relationship issues

Dave

[sinbin]

Sorry I don't understand your first sentence 'Dave'. How many times do you need a residencey letter ? I got one once. It allowed me to open a bank account and put the car in my name. Never required one since, and that's a good few years now. Some banks and car dealers will do that anyway, without the letter. The 'yellow book', "It's a good form of ID", no more a "good form" than carrying your driving licence. The 'yellow book' doesn't have your photo in it, so how can that be a "good form of ID" ? Even Thais cannot use their 'blue books' for ID purposes, it's not acceptable and neither is a 'yellow' one for us. Any 'Tom, Dick or Harry can use it and say they're the person in the book, without a secondary form of ID.
I never carry my passport, or have ever been asked to do so, other than at the bank, which I'd expect them to do for security. Even with the "Yellow Book" you're still no more than a "lowely tourist" and always will be. I know of no "National Parks" that treat you differently because you have a "Yellow Book". I'm sorry, but I still see the "Yellow Book" as a comfort tool, an expensive one at that, for a married farang that feels insecure. Sorry, but that's my opinion.

Edited by sinbin, 2009-10-08 08:16:49.

[billd766]

sinbin, on 2009-10-08 08:02:17, said:

Sorry I don't understand your first sentence 'Dave'. How many times do you need a residencey letter ? I got one once. It allowed me to open a bank account and put the car in my name. Never required one since, and that's a good few years now. Some banks and car dealers will do that anyway, without the letter. The 'yellow book', "It's a good form of ID", no more a "good form" than carrying your driving licence. The 'yellow book' doesn't have your photo in it, so how can that be a "good form of ID" ? Even Thais cannot use their 'blue books' for ID purposes, it's not acceptable and neither is a 'yellow' one for us. Any 'Tom, Dick or Harry can use it and say they're the person in the book, without a secondary form of ID.
I never carry my passport, or have ever been asked to do so, other than at the bank, which I'd expect them to do for security. Even with the "Yellow Book" you're still no more than a "lowely tourist" and always will be. I know of no "National Parks" that treat you differently because you have a "Yellow Book". I'm sorry, but I still see the "Yellow Book" as a comfort tool, an expensive one at that, for a married farang that feels insecure. Sorry, but that's my opinion.

I can see your point of view but others have a vastly different reason for wanting one.

You need the residency letter to prove where you live albeit that that the embassy has no real idea and will take your word for it.
I have lived and worked in  Thailand since 1993 and I must have moved about 10 times so in theory I should have applied to the embassy 10 times though I didn't.
My driving licence says that I live in Sukhumvit 93 in Bangkok though in reality I live in Klong Lan in the central region.
My licence is due for renewal next year and I want to get it done in Khampaeng Phet wich is 65 km from where I live now. To get a letter from the embassy would take me 2 days minimum, an 800 km round trip and probably 2 overnight stays in a hotel plus the 2,088 baht to pay the embassy for a letter.
I bought my motorcyle this year in Nakhon Si Thammarat and I need to change the registration to Khampaeng Phet as well.
All of the above has nothing to do with it as a "comfort tool" for myself and my wife. (which by the way I find slightly offensive)

[Dave the Dude]

sinbin, on 2009-10-08 08:02:17, said:

Sorry I don't understand your first sentence 'Dave'. How many times do you need a residencey letter ? I got one once. It allowed me to open a bank account and put the car in my name. Never required one since, and that's a good few years now. Some banks and car dealers will do that anyway, without the letter. The 'yellow book', "It's a good form of ID", no more a "good form" than carrying your driving licence. The 'yellow book' doesn't have your photo in it, so how can that be a "good form of ID" ? Even Thais cannot use their 'blue books' for ID purposes, it's not acceptable and neither is a 'yellow' one for us. Any 'Tom, Dick or Harry can use it and say they're the person in the book, without a secondary form of ID.
I never carry my passport, or have ever been asked to do so, other than at the bank, which I'd expect them to do for security. Even with the "Yellow Book" you're still no more than a "lowely tourist" and always will be. I know of no "National Parks" that treat you differently because you have a "Yellow Book". I'm sorry, but I still see the "Yellow Book" as a comfort tool, an expensive one at that, for a married farang that feels insecure. Sorry, but that's my opinion.

Hi Sinbin
I needed a separate(new) residence for the following
1)to buy a car
2)to buy a motorbike
3) to get my first one year DL for said car
4) to get my first one year DL for said motorbike
5) to get a 5 yr DL for said car
6) to get a 5 yr DL for said bike
7) for a private legal matter with a Lawyer
8) to open a bank account

I do accept you comments with regard to ID but I have found that I can get into National Parks/sites at Thai prices and not Farang vastly inflated prices.
Technically all farangs should carry their passport at all times (yes, I know this is crazy and impractical) and (probably like you) I feel unsafe when this important document is not stored away securely. I HAVE BEEN ASKED TO PRODUCE MY PASSPORT BY POLICE. A very good practical solution is to carry a small Cr card sized laminated copy BTW.

Thai Immigration have just relocated some 3 hours away from my hometown so believe me, I have saved a fortune by not needing further Residence Letters when compared to obtaining a FREE Yellow Tabian Baan locally.

So to summarize, I understand we have different experiences and we both have explained why we differ in opinions. Thats what a good open forum is all about. Like Billd766 I to find your reference to 'a comfort tool' slightly offensive and belittling.

Dave

[sinbin]

billd766, on 2009-10-08 16:07:43, said:

I can see your point of view but others have a vastly different reason for wanting one.

You need the residency letter to prove where you live albeit that that the embassy has no real idea and will take your word for it.
I have lived and worked in Thailand since 1993 and I must have moved about 10 times so in theory I should have applied to the embassy 10 times though I didn't.
My driving licence says that I live in Sukhumvit 93 in Bangkok though in reality I live in Klong Lan in the central region.
My licence is due for renewal next year and I want to get it done in Khampaeng Phet wich is 65 km from where I live now. To get a letter from the embassy would take me 2 days minimum, an 800 km round trip and probably 2 overnight stays in a hotel plus the 2,088 baht to pay the embassy for a letter.
I bought my motorcyle this year in Nakhon Si Thammarat and I need to change the registration to Khampaeng Phet as well.
All of the above has nothing to do with it as a "comfort tool" for myself and my wife. (which by the way I find slightly offensive)

Why did you take offence at "comfort tool" as I never a directed it at anyone other than to say "I see the "yellow Book" as a comfort tool,". My thoughts, and not a critism of anyone.
As for a "residency letter" I got mine from the Immigration office in Korat, free. Why go to an embassy and pay to get it ? It'll be in English and you'd need to get it translated, surely ?
I've had 2 cars and 1 motorcycle since being here. All registered to me and I've only had to obtain 1 "residency letter", the first one. I currently have a 5 year driving licence with the address of my first abode, here in Isaan. I've moved twice since then and was never asked for a "residency letter" when changing from a 1 year to a 5 year licence, or was I asked if I still lived at the original address.

[sinbin]

Dave the Dude, on 2009-10-08 16:55:57, said:

Hi Sinbin
I needed a separate(new) residence for the following
1)to buy a car
2)to buy a motorbike
3) to get my first one year DL for said car
4) to get my first one year DL for said motorbike
5) to get a 5 yr DL for said car
6) to get a 5 yr DL for said bike
7) for a private legal matter with a Lawyer
8) to open a bank account

I do accept you comments with regard to ID but I have found that I can get into National Parks/sites at Thai prices and not Farang vastly inflated prices.
Technically all farangs should carry their passport at all times (yes, I know this is crazy and impractical) and (probably like you) I feel unsafe when this important document is not stored away securely. I HAVE BEEN ASKED TO PRODUCE MY PASSPORT BY POLICE. A very good practical solution is to carry a small Cr card sized laminated copy BTW.

Thai Immigration have just relocated some 3 hours away from my hometown so believe me, I have saved a fortune by not needing further Residence Letters when compared to obtaining a FREE Yellow Tabian Baan locally.

So to summarize, I understand we have different experiences and we both have explained why we differ in opinions. Thats what a good open forum is all about. Like Billd766 I to find your reference to 'a comfort tool' slightly offensive and belittling.

Dave

Hi Dave,
Firstly please take note of my explanation of "comfort tool" to 'billd776'. To find my thoughts "slightly offensive" is over reation, in my opinion, by both of yous. I suppose yous will find that remark offensive as well ?
'Dave', you've given me 8 examples of why you need 8 new "residency letters". I've more or less been in the same boat as yourself and had only ever had to obtain one in the years I've been here.
If obtaining a "yellow book" is such a cost saving accessory, then 'Dave' I can assure you I would have got one years ago, but unfortunately it's not, in my opinion. If I honestly thought the "yellow book" was of any real benefit then I'd be singing it's praises from the highest tree, but I can't. I stand by my original statement that it's "for a married farang that feels insecure".

PS. Now I would have taken that last quote as offensive but neither of you mentioned it. So your right 'Dave', "we differ in opinions".

Edited by sinbin, 2009-10-08 19:50:38.

[surayu]

Hello everyone! Does anybody knows if there is a requirement to have been in Thailand for at least 3 years before one can get this troubled piece of paper? Thanks

[Dave the Dude]

surayu, on 2009-10-16 22:26:18, said:

Hello everyone! Does anybody knows if there is a requirement to have been in Thailand for at least 3 years before one can get this troubled piece of paper? Thanks

I have never heard of it, but rules change like the weather between office to office.

Dave

[NanLaew]

surayu, on 2009-10-16 23:26:18, said:

Hello everyone! Does anybody knows if there is a requirement to have been in Thailand for at least 3 years before one can get this troubled piece of paper? Thanks

I got my yellow book after only a couple of years spread over 2 Non-B visas and after only about 6 months of marriage.

PS. When I applied for it, my wife and our marital status were pretty much secondary to having the agreement of mother-in-law as it's her blue book that we all take 'comfort' in.

OMG, in sinbin's book, I must look really , really, REALLY insecure but I did get the car in MY name as well as speeding up the Thai DL issuance; no need to go traipsing across the province for a letter saying I was 'resident'.

Edited by NanLaew, 2009-10-19 18:15:41.

[sinbin]

I'm sorry 'NanLaew', but I read your above post 3 or 4 times and still can't seem to make 'head ot tail' of it. I'm open to debate if only I knew what your point is.

Edited by sinbin, 2009-10-19 20:08:36.

[Dave the Dude]

I think he was 'winding you up' Sinbin    

[sinbin]

Thanks for that 'Dave', but I still don't see ' the hook'.

[plattsmo]

surayu, on 2009-10-16 22:26:18, said:

Hello everyone! Does anybody knows if there is a requirement to have been in Thailand for at least 3 years before one can get this troubled piece of paper? Thanks

Surayu, got my 'yellow book after 1 month here.  I did have a lawyer for the purchase of my house and she made sure that the yellow book was done as soon as the house was registred at the land office.  Only cost was for my lawyer.  Most of the paperwork requirements have been discussed in this forum already.

[plattsmo]

surayu, on 2009-10-16 22:26:18, said:

Hello everyone! Does anybody knows if there is a requirement to have been in Thailand for at least 3 years before one can get this troubled piece of paper? Thanks

Surayu, got my 'yellow book after 1 month here.  I did have a lawyer for the purchase of my house and she made sure that the yellow book was done as soon as the house was registred at the land office.  Only cost was for my lawyer.  Most of the paperwork requirements have been discussed in this forum already.

[sinbin]

plattsmo, on 2009-10-20 19:51:45, said:

Surayu, got my 'yellow book after 1 month here. I did have a lawyer for the purchase of my house and she made sure that the yellow book was done as soon as the house was registred at the land office. Only cost was for my lawyer. Most of the paperwork requirements have been discussed in this forum already.

I think you meant/mean that you registered the house at the 'Tessa Baan'. Only the land is registered at the land office. Two entirely different places.

[Dave the Dude]

sinbin, on 2009-10-21 08:03:57, said:

]I think you meant/mean that you registered the house at the 'Tessa Baan'. Only the land is registered at the land office. Two entirely different places.

I think you meant/mean his Lawyer dealt with it.




Only Joking, Sinbin  
Where along the 24 are you?


Dave