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[onethailand]

Old Man River, on 2007-10-11 18:23:20, said:

Good in sports? We must have run into each other at one of the various tournaments.

Wouldn't have been at one of those as I am a bad daddy and don't usually attend the tournaments - and actually I think my eldest prefers it that way   You know, parental pressure and all...

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For the OP, St. Andrews was originally started by those that were affiliated with Bangkok Pattana.  They have several campuses, but usually the Thai ownership is different at each location, while the ex-pat ownership is often similar. They have told me that they aren't looking for one school with 2,000 students, but rather multiple locations with far less at each location. Hence, while the soi 71 campus has grown (it currently has around 480 students), based on existing infrastructure at this location, the ceiling is 650 students.

Exactly.  And they've maintained a fairly good mix of students over the years.  I know of a number of parents/students who actually left for other schools - and came back a year later because there was simply no comparison.

[torrenova]

leisurely, on 2007-07-08 09:43:31, said:

but also (certainly at my daughters) it is to pay for new buildings etc.

I've been thinking about that argument and I think it is a load of rubbish.

If the school doesn't have the facilities now then the fees should be less. Why should current kids pay for future people's useage of buildings etc. ?

What it really means is that the owners (and remember it is a business) either haven't got enough cash, they are taking too much out in profits or some other lack of capital reason.

To say it is ok to charge some sky high entrance fee is daft. To charge another fee when the child progresses up the school age group is even more absurd. What I'll do I do not know !

[think_too_mut]

torrenova, on 2007-11-01 05:24:08, said:

leisurely, on 2007-07-08 09:43:31, said:

but also (certainly at my daughters) it is to pay for new buildings etc.

I've been thinking about that argument and I think it is a load of rubbish.

If the school doesn't have the facilities now then the fees should be less. Why should current kids pay for future people's useage of buildings etc. ?

What it really means is that the owners (and remember it is a business) either haven't got enough cash, they are taking too much out in profits or some other lack of capital reason.

To say it is ok to charge some sky high entrance fee is daft. To charge another fee when the child progresses up the school age group is even more absurd. What I'll do I do not know !

That means 1.st that companies are paying the fees and there is no much complaint from individuals.

Just checked last week American International School here (Japan) and their entry fee is 1800US&. Other prices are similar to what is charged in BKK. About 25KUS$ for everuthing (incl. school bus) a year.
We may all move over here in April for other reasons, the school will be ready if we do.

[torrenova]

Why would anyone care if their company was paying the fees. Only perhaps if they got a kick back from the school !

[MsFigure]

Here are the current fees for St.Andrews which my daughter goes to (Kindergarten).
Expensive, but not as bad as some might think.  And it's definitely worth it

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[torrenova]

So about 90k per term * 3, plus maybe 20k for extra english * 3, plus 3k * 3 for lunch, plus 17k * 3 for transport and you're doing about 400k per year which is a fair chunk of cash. I only joked that my baby was going to be a 20,000,000 baht project but it is true !

Overpriced ? without much doubt but if you can afford it, who would not pay it.

[PPG]

Why is this topic pinned? Doesn't exactly give any useful info for parents looking for advice/pricing on International Schools as of June 2008.

Cheers,

PPG

Edited by PPG, 2008-06-05 22:55:53.

[paulpaul]

I would recommend "System Little House" on Thonglor Soi5. You will like it.  It's an international fun-based preschool at a rather resonable fee.  My daughter, 3, like the class there a lot.

[APBKK]

For those that are interested, The American School of Bangkok (International School) is offering Full Scholarships!
As part of our celebrations for our 25^th  anniversary as a school, we are offering full student scholarships. Please feel free to contact the Communications Director for details on 02-6208600 ext 133.

[johnfb]

Saint John's International School (near Phahon Yothin MRT station and Central Ladprao) has excellent facilities and competitive fees. We have a scholarship programme available. Look at www.international.stjohn.ac.th. You are welcome to PM me for more details. We have a British curriculum for students aged 2-19 and a N. American curriculum for students aged 15 and upwards.

[icebkk]

st johns god i wouldnt recommend that one of my friends went there he hated everything about and move to my school, harrow. I've been there for 10 years now. I have loved every bit about it the school has a great campus now and great teachers who help you alot throught tough times. Alot of the school passes to top Uni's in and outside of Thailand. I used to go to many other schools before, I know Harrow maybe a little expensive but it is worth it. It's a peaceful school. I used to go to Assumption College but not in BKK but all of them schools are very good. I went to Bangkok Patana School, full of alot of different nationalities, great school but the students need banging in the head sometimes... I think education is important however young you are because you start to pick up things better then you are younger and learning somewhere that is up to high standards help.

[sylvafern]

icebkk, on 2008-11-01 06:08:52, said:

st johns god i wouldnt recommend that one of my friends went there he hated everything about and move to my school, harrow. I've been there for 10 years now. I have loved every bit about it the school has a great campus now and great teachers who help you alot throught tough times. Alot of the school passes to top Uni's in and outside of Thailand. I used to go to many other schools before, I know Harrow maybe a little expensive but it is worth it. It's a peaceful school. I used to go to Assumption College but not in BKK but all of them schools are very good. I went to Bangkok Patana School, full of alot of different nationalities, great school but the students need banging in the head sometimes... I think education is important however young you are because you start to pick up things better then you are younger and learning somewhere that is up to high standards help.

icebkk - are you a student at Harrow? You're not really doing the school any justice with your terrible spelling and grammatical errors and bad-mouthing of other schools. Readers, please do not think this is the quality of English we produce at Harrow and the attitudes we support. Great to hear the positive comments about Harrow though, icebkk.  

[johnfb]

icebkk, on 2008-11-01 06:08:52, said:

st johns god i wouldnt recommend that one of my friends went there he hated everything about and move to my school, harrow. I've been there for 10 years now. I have loved every bit about it the school has a great campus now and great teachers who help you alot throught tough times. Alot of the school passes to top Uni's in and outside of Thailand. I used to go to many other schools before, I know Harrow maybe a little expensive but it is worth it. It's a peaceful school. I used to go to Assumption College but not in BKK but all of them schools are very good. I went to Bangkok Patana School, full of alot of different nationalities, great school but the students need banging in the head sometimes... I think education is important however young you are because you start to pick up things better then you are younger and learning somewhere that is up to high standards help.

SJIS (Saint John's International School) is a very good school now. Your negative comments were based on experiences ten years ago, can I invite you to come and see my school now and I am certain you will be impressed. I know that both Harrow International School and Saint John's International School both offer an excellent education for students in Bangkok. Please send me a PM and come and look at SJIS and perhaps then you can post a more up to date and therefore accurate view.

[bruceboy]

What about some on the smaller international school fees?

[icebkk]

sylvafern, on 2008-11-05 20:06:14, said:

icebkk, on 2008-11-01 06:08:52, said:

st johns god i wouldnt recommend that one of my friends went there he hated everything about and move to my school, harrow. I've been there for 10 years now. I have loved every bit about it the school has a great campus now and great teachers who help you alot throught tough times. Alot of the school passes to top Uni's in and outside of Thailand. I used to go to many other schools before, I know Harrow maybe a little expensive but it is worth it. It's a peaceful school. I used to go to Assumption College but not in BKK but all of them schools are very good. I went to Bangkok Patana School, full of alot of different nationalities, great school but the students need banging in the head sometimes... I think education is important however young you are because you start to pick up things better then you are younger and learning somewhere that is up to high standards help.

icebkk - are you a student at Harrow? You're not really doing the school any justice with your terrible spelling and grammatical errors and bad-mouthing of other schools. Readers, please do not think this is the quality of English we produce at Harrow and the attitudes we support. Great to hear the positive comments about Harrow though, icebkk.

im a teenager ur not expecting me to type like u r u? all i have to say is i can have my opinions about whatever school i want to ... people are all diff u know esp wen we r outside of skool.... u dont expect me to be the same person in and out of skool do u? i kno a lot more of the ppl in the skool that have worse spelling than me.... im not english ... i dnt wish to be im thai and proud

hello johnfb.. thanks for inviting me im good thanks but i am happy that you are improving the school i still have a few friends that go there at the moment too so its pretty good to hear that ur doing better

Edited by icebkk, 2008-11-10 04:38:11.

[johnfb]

icebkk, on 2008-11-10 04:34:51, said:

sylvafern, on 2008-11-05 20:06:14, said:

icebkk, on 2008-11-01 06:08:52, said:

st johns god i wouldnt recommend that one of my friends went there he hated everything about and move to my school, harrow. I've been there for 10 years now. I have loved every bit about it the school has a great campus now and great teachers who help you alot throught tough times. Alot of the school passes to top Uni's in and outside of Thailand. I used to go to many other schools before, I know Harrow maybe a little expensive but it is worth it. It's a peaceful school. I used to go to Assumption College but not in BKK but all of them schools are very good. I went to Bangkok Patana School, full of alot of different nationalities, great school but the students need banging in the head sometimes... I think education is important however young you are because you start to pick up things better then you are younger and learning somewhere that is up to high standards help.

icebkk - are you a student at Harrow? You're not really doing the school any justice with your terrible spelling and grammatical errors and bad-mouthing of other schools. Readers, please do not think this is the quality of English we produce at Harrow and the attitudes we support. Great to hear the positive comments about Harrow though, icebkk.

im a teenager ur not expecting me to type like u r u? all i have to say is i can have my opinions about whatever school i want to ... people are all diff u know esp wen we r outside of skool.... u dont expect me to be the same person in and out of skool do u? i kno a lot more of the ppl in the skool that have worse spelling than me.... im not english ... i dnt wish to be im thai and proud

hello johnfb.. thanks for inviting me im good thanks but i am happy that you are improving the school i still have a few friends that go there at the moment too so its pretty good to hear that ur doing better

Well Icebkk  the invite is given sincerely....just call the school and I will personally take you around St John's ok? It would be good to prove that SJIS is a really good school.

[torrenova]

I think the kid's English is a sign of the times and is more akin to SMS / text English without using predictive text. That he cannot differentiate between an SMS and a message board is worrying, especially if he is due to take exams. I understand that you cannot submit examination answers by SMS just yet !

[icebkk]

torrenova, on 2008-11-12 00:17:19, said:

I think the kid's English is a sign of the times and is more akin to SMS / text English without using predictive text. That he cannot differentiate between an SMS and a message board is worrying, especially if he is due to take exams. I understand that you cannot submit examination answers by SMS just yet !

if your referring to me im hardlya kid, im a young adult, my english exams results were fine so it dont really matter the matter is i passed with a good pass. by the way im a female. insulting my english skills is not really what i call cool this is not an exam and i dont need to write perfectly... its just a message board most people know how to read both normal and text language. its not the end of the world to be typing in text talk to people over the internet its a time change so get back to the topic and dont spam it insulting my english ....

[torrenova]

icebkk, on 2008-11-12 03:09:21, said:

torrenova, on 2008-11-12 00:17:19, said:

I think the kid's English is a sign of the times and is more akin to SMS / text English without using predictive text. That he cannot differentiate between an SMS and a message board is worrying, especially if he is due to take exams. I understand that you cannot submit examination answers by SMS just yet !

if your referring to me im hardlya kid, im a young adult, my english exams results were fine so it dont really matter the matter is i passed with a good pass. by the way im a female. insulting my english skills is not really what i call cool this is not an exam and i dont need to write perfectly... its just a message board most people know how to read both normal and text language. its not the end of the world to be typing in text talk to people over the internet its a time change so get back to the topic and dont spam it insulting my english ....

I'll let it ride but it is obvious that your English is appalling and I certainly would not wish to send my daughter to any school which turned out a "young adult" with such poor grammatical understanding.

[icebkk]

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I'll let it ride but it is obvious that your English is appalling and I certainly would not wish to send my daughter to any school which turned out a "young adult" with such poor grammatical understanding.

u can bash my learning difficulties all u like it dont make u a big person does it? if my english was so appalling i would of not of passed my IGCSE's would i? and good for u whatever u want to do ... there is nothing wrong with my school at all.. we have one of the best passing rates and lets get one thing straight... im not taking an exam right now im not being assessed in my english skills right now and this is the internet and it is like what 2008 times are changing... to talk text talk there is no right or wrong how to type on the internet... so if you really have a problem then go cry about it somewhere else i am not bothered about u.. ur lame get over it

[ArranP]

I'm about to move to Phuket.

Can those of you with relative knowledge make a contribution on schools in Phuket please.

Thanks.
Regards
Arran

[ArranP]

ArranP, on 2008-11-15 16:47:02, said:

I'm about to move to Phuket.

Can those of you with relative knowledge make a contribution on schools in Phuket please.

Thanks.
Regards
Arran

Apologies, I don't seem to be able to amend the previous post.

I'm about to move to Phuket.

Can someone make a contribution on schools in Phuket please.

Also, I am weighing up "Thai System combined with English Program" vs "International School" routes.

I cannot discount the Thai system as I have met a Thai person who went through the Thai educational system and graduated a Thai University, I found this person to be well educated, well manered, hard working individual with a good job, own house and car, overall getting on well in life.  

Thanks.
Regards
Arran

Edited by ArranP, 2008-11-16 00:42:03.

[Colonel_Mustard]

ArranP, on 2008-11-16 00:40:48, said:

ArranP, on 2008-11-15 16:47:02, said:

I'm about to move to Phuket.

Can those of you with relative knowledge make a contribution on schools in Phuket please.

Thanks.
Regards
Arran

Apologies, I don't seem to be able to amend the previous post.

I'm about to move to Phuket.

Can someone make a contribution on schools in Phuket please.

Also, I am weighing up "Thai System combined with English Program" vs "International School" routes.

I cannot discount the Thai system as I have met a Thai person who went through the Thai educational system and graduated a Thai University, I found this person to be well educated, well manered, hard working individual with a good job, own house and car, overall getting on well in life.  

Thanks.
Regards
Arran

There are, to the best of my knowledge, 3 international schools in Phuket:

British International School

Quality Schools International

Phuket International Academy

QSI and PIA work to an American curriculum, while BIS uses a British one.  BIS and QSI have been around quite a while, whereas PIA has only just opened and all building works aren't yet complete.  BIS and PIA are priced similarly but I'm not sure about QSI's pricing.

My 2 daughters attend BIS and my stepson attends PIA, though I intend to transfer my daughters there also when all the building is complete and the school is running 100%.

I have never been particularly impressed with the quality of facilities or teaching at QSI.  BIS is much better equipped and staffed IMO but for me the class sizes are starting to get too big there and that is one of my reasons for my planning on moving my daughters to PIA next year.

If PIA develops as planned it should be a pretty impressive facility with small class sizes and therefore would be my number one choice on the island.  If not, then I would stick with BIS.

Sorry, but I don't really know much about the Thai system combined with an English program but there are a few threads on the Phuket forum about some of them.

[Pakeha]

Why on earth is this topic pinned?

Can anyone give a straight answer as to the cost of schools?

Please can people just give their evaluation of price for the following:

Price of International schools:
BKK
Outside of BKK

Price of Thai system combined with English program -
BKK
Outside of BKK

Thank you in advance. If this can be answered this topic may be useful.

[fiddlehead]

bggg, on 2007-09-12 05:53:04, said:

It always amazes me the comments parents make about their young childrens education. The first years are the most important, that is where you lay the foundation for the rest of their years not vice versa. People who think I will send my child to an okay or adequate school until they are older really do their children a diservice in my opinion. Once they have formed their attitudes and learning styles it is very hard to change them when they reach an age that some of you seem to think suddenly matters when is that? 10? 12? university? It would be better to give them the best schools at the youngest age so they develope the ability to learn discover and challenge themselves. This they will carry with them the rest of their lives. Think about it, you build the foundation of anything 1st to serve as the support and strength for all that will come after.

I agree totally.
The years 3 to 6 are the most important in a persons life as far as forming personality, learning logic, how to think, getting along with others, learning to get things done, etc.
I don't make a lot of money but have saved up and can afford 3 years of good school for my child.   He started in the Montessori school (here in Phuket) about 2 months ago.   (at the age of 3 years, 3 months)   (sorry i don't know any schools in Bangkok, I've never lived there.)

Looking for Nobel Peace Prize winners?    How about the founders of:  Google (both of them), Amazon.com, Wikipedia.    All Montessori school learners from an early age.

As for the big registration fee.  I questioned it also.   The only answer they could give me is that every school in Thailand does it.    
It's definitely a feather in their cap because once you pay it, you want to keep your child there just to keep from paying it again somewhere else, aye?