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[pkrv]

Hi - the Yellow Tabien Bann, not really my area but I thought this may be of help. An updated document on the subject of land titles. Courtesy of Phuket Land

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Edited by pkrv, 2009-11-05 02:40:05.

[billd766]

I applied a while ago and they came to my wife's restaurant one Friday night and the Pu Yai Ban was there to do his bit as were the two friends who also signed up for me.

I supplied copies of

Wife'd ID card
Blue Tabien Ban
My passport photo and visa pages (in English)
Marriage certificate
Photos of me
Photos of the wife, son and house (not needed but I had them anyway)
Driving licence
Everything else I can think of

A week later my wife calls them and asks how it is going.

OK but..............

We need a translated copy of your husbands passport photo page and visas and also a residence certificate.

I had to do a 90 day report so I went up to Mae Sot and did that and then called the amphur people and gave the phone to the Immigration people to talk about the residence certificate and came back no wiser.

A friend of my wife's will get the translation done she says if you copy it and give it to them.

Did that and 3 weeks later still no translation.

Yesterday I snarled at my wife and told her to ask the amphur EXACTLY what they want.

When both of us had cooled down she said what they want is a translation of your passport pages and I have just remembered now (6 weeks later) the marriage certificate translated.

Next snarl from me was Do they just want a simple translation, one certified by a lawyer or one certified by the Ministry of Consular Affairs?

Just a translation was the answer.

My mate was in Bangkok and said that he would try to get it done but he has called me saying that he has no time so it looks like early on Monday morning I will be going 400 km to Bangkok and get the translations done at the corner opposite the British Embassy and come back home on Tuesday.

Then we have to go to the amphur and give it all in and THEN probably I will have to go up tp Mae Sot AGAIN to get a residence certificate, assuming that is that the amphur does not want the translations certified by the Ministry of Hobgoblins or whatever in Nakhon Nowhere.

It seems as though I am the test case as nobody has done this in Amphur Klong Lan before.

I think I will need certifying soon.

[mark5335]

I got my Yellow Tabien Baan today from the Wattana District Office in Thong Lo Sukhumvit 55, Bangkok.

The process took 2 hours, which included form filling and answering questions by the officer, and a brief interview with the manager. Both staff were polite and understood the process well. Incidentally, we had made a formal meeting appointment beforehand.

The documents we provided were as follows:-
Wife's Thai ID card
Blue Tabien Baan
My passport ID and visa extension pages
My Work Permit
Marriage certificate
ID photos of me
My Thai driver's licence

[billd766]

mark5335, on 2009-11-06 18:36:22, said:

I got my Yellow Tabien Baan today from the Wattana District Office in Thong Lo Sukhumvit 55, Bangkok.

The process took 2 hours, which included form filling and answering questions by the officer, and a brief interview with the manager. Both staff were polite and understood the process well. Incidentally, we had made a formal meeting appointment beforehand.

The documents we provided were as follows:-
Wife's Thai ID card
Blue Tabien Baan
My passport ID and visa extension pages
My Work Permit
Marriage certificate
ID photos of me
My Thai driver's licence

Different world as few people in the amphur speak, read or write English.

[surayu]

Pib, on 2009-10-16 23:26:25, said:

Thank you Pib, i can confirm that the "chief of the amphur" taked back is request for a 3 years residency, as after pestering him a bit for further information about it, he just confirmed was not needed, no further explanation given...

[Pib]

Glad some of my feedback helped. The Yellow Book does indeed come in handy (like today when renewing my driver/motorcycle licenses) as it usually prevents the need for a Certificate of Residence and gives the government office you are dealing with confirmation of your established residence in Thailand. Summary: Yellow Book absolutely needed--No; Yellow Book a definite plus and makes getting certain things done easier/faster--Yes.

[mark5335]

billd766, on 2009-11-07 16:12:26, said:

mark5335, on 2009-11-06 18:36:22, said:

I got my Yellow Tabien Baan today from the Wattana District Office in Thong Lo Sukhumvit 55, Bangkok.

The process took 2 hours, which included form filling and answering questions by the officer, and a brief interview with the manager. Both staff were polite and understood the process well. Incidentally, we had made a formal meeting appointment beforehand.

The documents we provided were as follows:-
Wife's Thai ID card
Blue Tabien Baan
My passport ID and visa extension pages
My Work Permit
Marriage certificate
ID photos of me
My Thai driver's licence

Different world as few people in the amphur speak, read or write English.

I think the ease of my application was due to the relatively higher non-Thai population residing in Wattana District, inferring that the Amphur staff there are more familiar with the process. My meeting/interview was entirely conducted in Thai language, so the English language capability was not an issue.

Edited by mark5335, 2009-11-10 23:53:01.

[pkrv]

IMO a usefull thread with information on the differences between Blue and Yellow house books

http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/Famous-Yello...se-t315107.html

[yabaaaa]

surayu, on 2009-10-14 10:52:46, said:

It seems that one of the requirements to obtain this Yellow Book, is to have been in Thailand for 3 years on a row, on this ground i have been denied one from the chief of the local amphur, can anyone confirm on this particular requirement and if there is anything that can be done about it at all? Thanks

Not true, from my post I am not even permanently here just visit for 2-3 months at a time twice a year and got one but I am married properley to a Thai.
Ive been doing this for 4 years although I do own some condos in my name and have a Non O type visa. (46 years old)

[trawler]

Not true on the 3 years living in Thailand.I just got my Yellow Tabien Baan in Sept 09,also at Thonglor office.Took around 2 hours total.Very friendly and did not need to translate any docs even though our marriage certificate is in english.I also have a condo in my wifes and my name.However I work outside of Thailand and only come over once a month as does my wife(she is Thai).The process was a bit like a interview althoguh low key.Sample questions like'where did you meet,how long did you date etc etc' lead me to believe they are checking that you really are married as well as questions on property etc.

[AyG]

Though the question's been asked before, I can't find an answer: is it possible to get a yellow book if not married or single?

Thanks.

[thaiozy]

samran, on 2008-01-10 11:50:30, said:

sorry to hear that you came across a moron such as this.

Here is a picture of one in this thread

http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/index.php?sh...2&hl=yellow. Officially, they are called a Tor. Ror 13 (see top right hand corner.

take it to show him. He probably wants a bribe from you. Bloody hill billies.

If he wants to know why you want one, tell him you need it as an offical Thai ID to show you have residency in Thailand, to open bank accounts etc etc, and that it is needed for applying for Thai citizenship which you hope to apply for one day.

To get a liscence i was told to be in the BLUE book & as for the bank account an official noticed i was putting large sums into a bangkok branch bank & not issan so he said bring your passbook & you can have one here in your name.
Oh yes I also was asked why i wanted to be in book & i said i needed to get thai lisence. but i got the impression that she was`t happy about it as she gave me a bit of a frown as we were leaving

[pkrv]

thaiozy, on 2009-12-23 04:03:25, said:

To get a liscence i was told to be in the BLUE book & as for the bank account an official noticed i was putting large sums into a bangkok branch bank & not issan so he said bring your passbook & you can have one here in your name.
Oh yes I also was asked why i wanted to be in book & i said i needed to get thai lisence. but i got the impression that she was`t happy about it as she gave me a bit of a frown as we were leaving

No Farang can be in the blue book - You can have a blue book for example if you a Farang/Farang couple and own a freehold Farang quota condominium but your name(s) are not in it. Actually in this case the key document is the Chanott ti din (odd large sized bit of parchment paper cannot be easily potocopied as it is larger that US legal size) . This does have your name(s) on it, and this is the document that carries weight - for opening bank accounts etc.

Edited by pkrv, 2009-12-23 18:09:53.

[poldebol]

I live in a small town in Sa Kaeo province. Before I lived in a student building in Khon Kaen. Aware of the fact that the owner of the place where you live is responsible for reporting the whereabouts of a farang staying under his roof, I told the landlord to do whatever was necessary. I never knew whether he did anything about it.
After I came to live in Sa Kaeo, I did not want the mother of my Thai gf to have problems. I live in the house of the parents of my gf, we are not legally married. So, one day we went to the town hall, I had to go back to get some passport pictures. The man in the amphoe asked my gf was I a good man, did I have other gf's etc. After lunch break I came out of the amphoe with a yellow book. The only document I have shown was my passport, my visa and the blue book of my gf's parents.

[pkrv]

The yellow book appears to be about as of much use as a chocolate tea pot.

If you are serious about Thailand then the Blue Book (and as Farangs your names are not going to be in it) and Chanott ti din (with your name(s) on it) are the definitive documents for property ownership. Full stop.

[yabaaaa]

pkrv, on 2010-01-15 18:12:23, said:

The yellow book appears to be about as of much use as a chocolate tea pot.

If you are serious about Thailand then the Blue Book (and as Farangs your names are not going to be in it) and Chanott ti din (with your name(s) on it) are the definitive documents for property ownership. Full stop.

It saves you having to get letters confirming where you live (at some cost i might add) and also helps when applying for driving licence, once youve got the driving licence it also helps get lower price at places such as NONG NOOCH park 100 baht instead of 400 baht.

[philo]

Hi.

Status:

Wife (Thai Marriage Certificate) - also registred in my Farang Country.
Two children (both Thai and Farang Passports).
Official address in Thailand - 90 days reports and registered in my Farang Country.
House - in my wifes's name and on her land - I don't want the shit.
Five years drivers licence.
Living place: Jangwat Nong Khai.
Car: 1 - in my wife's name.
Pension.
Non Imm. O Visa Thai Wife
Married for four years - things are getting ugly.

My wife says she will take our two children to the 'anuban' (kindergarden, nursery) on a Honda Wave in the rainy season - the road is 11 km. dirt-shit and deadly. So I have to buy one more car.

As the marriage is slowly breaking down - I want the two cars in my name. The house and the rubber garden she can keep. Also I pay alimony - before it was once a month - but she is so stupid with money that I now pay for the needs of the children weekly (in addition to health insurance, schooling, electricity, .......).

She has agreed to let the 'old' car (3 years) be transferred to my name. I also want the new car in my name (so I can sell them when she has drained the last Satang out of me).

Has anybody any experience from Jangwat Nong Khai? What do I need to get the Yellow Book - or do I really need it to transfer the two cars into my name?

Thanks.

Philo

[pkrv]

Blue Book and yellow book - some interesting conclusions arrived at - IMO these posts are great and help us all out - IMO Firefan did some great work/stuff.

http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/House-Book-T...ahn-t43532.html

Edited by pkrv, 2010-05-20 21:29:16.

[moondancer]

Does anyone have a translation for the passport info page that you can share? Thanks.

[Tonto21]

ray23, on 2008-07-07 08:16:24, said:

Funny how different experinces can be in accomplishing things here. Got mine about six months ago, did the reearch provided the proper doucments and brought the witness on the first trip issued the next day. With very little problems at all. But that was Udon.

Different experiences… How true, I live in Mae Taeng, just north of Chiangmai, went to amphoe with just passport and driving license, It all took less than an hour to get yellow book. It just shows it an’t the rules, it’s the rule enforcers not knowing how to do their job, and trying to save face, and blowing you off! Now getting electric in my name and opening a bank account at my local branch (1st falange to open an account there) they still have ALL my details in full view pined to the wall by the help counter….I think to show other farang what they need to open an account! Talk about data protection. Go Thailand!

[GarryP]

Has anybody had any experience getting the yellow book from the Prakanong District Office?

[KoreaElte]

GarryP, on 2010-07-01 12:33:06, said:

Has anybody had any experience getting the yellow book from the Prakanong District Office?

Yep I was there last week and it was a nicer office than Wattana! Fully air-conditioned and friendly staff.

The guy told me to bring

- My passport with visa + copies thereof
- The original title deed for the property
- Thai driving licence if I have one + copy
- 2 Thai citizens to "guarantee" for me.

Then it turns out that my property falls under the jurisdiction of Wattana.

When I got to Wattana, the story changed and not in my favour.

Wattana want

- certified translation of copy of my passport + thai visa.
- title deed
- Thai driving licence if I have one + copy

no "guarantors" were mentioned at this office but getting the certified translation of my passport and visa is a huge pain in the ass.

Anyway. jai yen yen and I will get the paper and go back (to Wattana) in a week or so to get the yellow book.

Why do I need the yellow book ? a) my gf wants to be on my tabien baan and i am sick of paying my embassy over 1000 Baht every year to provide a letter saying that I live here so i can renew the driving licence. My visa doesn't allow for a 5 year driving license so the Tabien Baan is helpful indeed. My bank manager also said that he can cut me a visa card even without a WP if I can bring a yellow tabien baan (most branches wouldnt even open an account for me previously).

[GarryP]

Thanks for the info. When my house is finally completed next year, it will be transferred to my son who will get a new blue house registration book and be listed as the home owner. My wife will also be listed as living at the same address. As such, when they do the blue book, I will do the yellow one at the same time with my son and wife acting as my witnesses.

It would seem that the yellow book is more useful than I first thought. I am only getting one because it is a required document for citizenship applicants, and I hope to file my application in the next year or two.

[KoreaElte]

GarryP, on 2010-07-12 15:57:43, said:

Thanks for the info. When my house is finally completed next year, it will be transferred to my son who will get a new blue house registration book and be listed as the home owner. My wife will also be listed as living at the same address. As such, when they do the blue book, I will do the yellow one at the same time with my son and wife acting as my witnesses.

It would seem that the yellow book is more useful than I first thought. I am only getting one because it is a required document for citizenship applicants, and I hope to file my application in the next year or two.

Just a caveat: I don't know how old your son is... I think the witness needs to be 20 years old or above.

[farmerjo]

Went to get yellow book in phuphaman yesterday,
Took the right paperwork as mentioned in here.
The extra's required where-married for 5 years(passed that)
Had to take gumyarn and mayor and a police officer or teacher.
As explained to me the mayor is my garantor so any trouble and he has the right to cancel the book.
The paperwork was completed and sent to their boss for approval,should be back in 2-3 weeks.

I got the feeling that there not that keen to do it as there's alot of paperwork involved and to many farangs have done the dirty on the system before.