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At Least 17 Britons Have Been Murdered In Thailand Since 2003Will You Be Next ?


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#26 TommyGun

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Posted 2008-01-14 11:02:00

I think there is probably more brits murdered in UK than this each year.

#27 orchis

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Posted 2008-01-14 11:12:59

Will You Be Next ?

No, i m not british.

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Posted 2008-01-14 11:49:13

View Postesbobes, on 2008-01-14 00:25:12, said:

View Postsunrise07, on 2008-01-13 22:26:05, said:

Far more Brits dying of over-eating, smoking and drugging (including the drug - alcohol) than being murdered.
m,.

After living in the UK for 28 years I am surpise its only 17.

Many of my people where I was born can not believe the drinking the sports betting and the over eating by Brits.

The Brits have no self control no religion and no class Just look at the so call Royal Family from England.

I have met many Brits that claim the English Royal Family got rid of Princess Diane.

They have started all the wars. And mess up the colonies for all time

Soon Thailand will not let them into this great country.


It was so bad that you stayed twenty eight years? A country where you, as a foreigner were able to work, own land, property and claim benefits when the sh1t hits the fan? What a terrible place! And you had complete freedom of speech too! Your comments towards my royal family wiil land you a lengthy prison sentance in many countries of the world.
By the way, the UK has pretty much every religion under the sun and all are given equal opportunity.
I guess you also believe Thais dont drink or gamble either?

#29 kmart

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Posted 2008-01-14 11:56:37

I'm glad I only stayed in the UK for a piffling 28 years. Terrible place, horrible people, etc. :o

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Posted 2008-01-14 12:30:23

View PostTommyGun, on 2008-01-14 12:02:00, said:

I think there is probably more brits murdered in UK than this each year.

Duh - do you undertand probability and ratio's - obviously not!

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Posted 2008-01-14 12:31:55

View Postkmart, on 2008-01-14 12:56:37, said:

I'm glad I only stayed in the UK for a piffling 28 years. Terrible place, horrible people, etc. :D

If we count just England I made it through slightly more than that but if we have to include the wastelands of Scotland I exceed it by a few years :o

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Posted 2008-01-14 12:35:09

Just reading in the peper today in Singapore about the study just completed in the USa regarding the increase in murders by US Military personnel in the USA since the start of the Afghan war in 91 and through the Iraq war till now.

A 89% increase - maybe Americans should be careful at home while brits are being careful in Thailand :o

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Posted 2008-01-14 12:39:10

View Postkmart, on 2008-01-14 13:56:37, said:

I'm glad I only stayed in the UK for a piffling 28 years. Terrible place, horrible people, etc. :D


I stayed there for 11 years....and I agree, what a dump....full of xenophobic bigots, under educated thugs and snobbish Hi So's.....then there is the gloomy god awful weather...Snow sleet and rain...


I left there when I was 11...

:o :D :D

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Posted 2008-01-14 13:48:45

[quote name='esbobes' post='1759742' date='2008-01-14 00:25:12']After living in the UK for 28 years I am surpise its only 17.

Many of my people where I was born can not believe the drinking the sports betting and the over eating by Brits.[/quote]
Where is this great nation you were born, and why do the people you know stay in Britain if they are so appalled with our debauchery?

[quote name='esbobes' post='1759742' date='2008-01-14 00:25:12']The Brits have no self control no religion and no class Just look at the so call Royal Family from England.

I have met many Brits that claim the English Royal Family got rid of Princess Diane.[/quote]
Its Diana and it is a real Royal family not a so called one, there are conspiracy theorists everywhere most Brits are not interested in the saga of her death.

I dont believe in any religion, should i be allowed this privelege to choose or be chastised for being a non believer.

[quote name='esbobes' post='1759742' date='2008-01-14 00:25:12']They have started all the wars.[/quote]
Didnt millions of Brits die in the last century fighting to defend their nation and gain freedom for Europeans the Jews and Asians alike.

[quote name='esbobes' post='1759742' date='2008-01-14 00:25:12']And mess up the colonies for all time.[/quote]

Former colonies such as America, Canada, Australia, Singapore, Hong Kong seem to be doing OK.

Is Zimbabwe a country that was one of the most prosperous in Africa under British rule our fault, maybe certain former colonies need to start taking responsibility for their own countries and stop blaming the past.

And no i dont believe in colonising people, however most the countries under the British empire were under the Dutch, Spanish, French, Portugese rule at one time, we were actually late comers to Empire building, just we were more succesful at it then the rest.
[quote name='esbobes' post='1759742' date='2008-01-14 00:25:12']Soon Thailand will not let them into this great country.[/quote]

Now if that post had been about a different race to the British or Americans it would have been pulled right away. Double standards possibly?

#35 kopite

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Posted 2008-01-14 20:10:57

lot safer here in thailand than back in the uk. surprised so many of you get worked up by articles like this.

margate was always an option :o

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Posted 2008-01-14 20:14:01

View Postkopite, on 2008-01-14 21:10:57, said:

lot safer here in thailand than back in the uk. surprised so many of you get worked up by articles like this.

margate was always an option :o

Not another refugee from "Planet Thanet" - seems to be a few of us on this board :D

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Posted 2008-01-14 20:42:44

View PostPrakanong, on 2008-01-14 09:40:11, said:

View Postesbobes, on 2008-01-14 01:25:12, said:

View Postsunrise07, on 2008-01-13 22:26:05, said:

Far more Brits dying of over-eating, smoking and drugging (including the drug - alcohol) than being murdered.
m,.

After living in the UK for 28 years I am surpise its only 17.

Many of my people where I was born can not believe the drinking the sports betting and the over eating by Brits.

The Brits have no self control no religion and no class Just look at the so call Royal Family from England.

I have met many Brits that claim the English Royal Family got rid of Princess Diane.

They have started all the wars. And mess up the colonies for all time

Soon Thailand will not let them into this great country.

After 28 years in the country I would have a bigger complaint than drinking and sports betting if i was you - the education system and courses in english for immigrants - its failed you.

I am glad Britain is becoming secular - religion poisons everything and god is not great - a crutch for the stupid.

Oh and if it was so bad why did you stay 28 years - it must have been better than the shithole you came from?


well said............

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Posted 2008-01-14 21:19:21

View Postesbobes, on 2008-01-14 00:25:12, said:

View Postsunrise07, on 2008-01-13 22:26:05, said:

Far more Brits dying of over-eating, smoking and drugging (including the drug - alcohol) than being murdered.
m,.

After living in the UK for 28 years I am surpise its only 17.

Many of my people where I was born can not believe the drinking the sports betting and the over eating by Brits.

The Brits have no self control no religion and no class Just look at the so call Royal Family from England.

I have met many Brits that claim the English Royal Family got rid of Princess Diane.

They have started all the wars. And mess up the colonies for all time

Soon Thailand will not let them into this great country.

You're obviously quite the Anglophile lover so pray do tell, from whence cometh thou?

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Posted 2008-01-15 00:57:12

View PostTommyGun, on 2008-01-14 11:02:00, said:

I think there is probably more brits murdered in UK than this each year.

I think your right. If I was to hazard a guess I would say that just might have something to do with the fact that there are more Brits in the UK than Thailand ?

With respect to the comparative safety of the two places if you can't compare like with like its hard to reach a conclusion that has much validity. Thailand may not be the safest place in the world but there aren't that many no-go areas in Bangkok or Chiang Mai that I can think of, in London or almost any other large UK city you tread carefully, even so the random street crime will find you regardless of your postcode.

If my memory serves me correctly whilst some of those murders were of the wrong time/wrong place scenario a good proportion of them had links/backgrounds of prostitution etc, in the circumstances I'm surprised the figure is so low.

The part of the article that made me shake my head most was yet again the British Embassy.

"Yet Charnaud's family believe British officials in Thailand could have done a lot more to assist them, something that led to their local MP, James Gray, asking questions in Parliament in 2006. "In direct contrast to the Thais, who handled the whole thing very well, at every step our embassy was insensitive, ineffective and incompetent," says Hannah. "When Toby's remains were found they sent us a short email, complete with graphic details. This was done after they had spoken to the press. They offered help with DNA testing and then made that extremely difficult."

At one point, when Charnaud's remains had been released by the Thai police, and with all his family back in the UK, the embassy contacted his family and offered to have the body cremated. "I said, 'What? Do the cremation with no one there?' and they said 'Yes,'" says Hannah. "I was staggered. It seemed like they were just eager to shut the case down."

So the tsunami taught those useless incompetent buggers sod all it would seem.

Now if someone were to produce some statistics about the popular sport of balcony jumping in Pattaya that would make interesting reading.

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Posted 2008-01-15 07:31:50

"Now if someone were to produce some statistics about the popular sport of balcony jumping in Pattaya that would make interesting reading."

Very interesting reading indeed. If one was to do a comparitive epidemiological study of methods of suicide I am certan that the balcony jumpers in Pattaya, and other parts of Thailand to a lesser extent, would stand out statistically with regarss to common methods in the jumpers home countries.

Jumping from high spots is not that common a method in most western countries - of course it happens but i would think nowhere as near as much as in Pattaya.

#41 mellow1

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Posted 2008-01-15 14:08:30

This morning in the paper there was another jumper, an American this time. I guess they like coming to Thailand for this activity. Not a common form of suicide in the US. People there usually do it with sleeping pills and booze, or maybe they don't like all the excitement of jumping off a balcony, like they do once they get to Pattaya.

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Posted 2008-01-15 14:55:46

View Postashacat, on 2008-01-14 09:52:16, said:

esbobes - I have just been to your profile and browsed through some of your posts. Here is one of my personal favorites:

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Seeing how mostly all expats from UK are drunks and and have unsafe sex yes unsafe sex just ask them,its about time I am sick of paying for these dumb fools.

Their sick style of life are making them sicker. Maybe they should not be allowed to leave the UK and put in a Govt reat home

Were you bullied during your 28 years in the UK? chip on the shoulder perhaps? :D


esbobes sounds like a great laugh. :o Judging by his comments, I'll assume that he is not actually British, but more likely an economic immigrant.

He's probably in Nana himself doing the research, judging the classic quote that ashacat has managed to find. I'm still trying to figure out what he means by a "reat home", maybe he couldn't spell the word retirement or retard. Either way, I think I'll pass on the other comments that he's made.

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Posted 2008-01-15 15:18:40

quote name='kmart' post='1760466' date='2008-01-14 13:56:37']I'm glad I only stayed in the UK for a piffling 28 years. Terrible place, horrible people, etc. :D [/quote]


I stayed there for 11 years....and I agree, what a dump....full of xenophobic bigots, under educated thugs and snobbish Hi So's.....then there is the gloomy god awful weather...Snow sleet and rain...


I left there when I was 11...

:o :D :D

when did you shift from melbourne to perth? still never mind at least you have warm beer and cold pies where you are now.

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Posted 2008-01-15 15:21:19

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On average, about 50 civilian UK nationals are murdered around the world each year (excluding terrorist attacks). This means that almost 10 per cent of all murders of Britons abroad are committed in Thailand – a chilling figure, given that Thailand comprises only 0.6 per cent of all foreign travel from UK shores.


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Posted 2008-01-15 16:29:01

View Posttrader1, on 2008-01-15 15:21:19, said:

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On average, about 50 civilian UK nationals are murdered around the world each year (excluding terrorist attacks). This means that almost 10 per cent of all murders of Britons abroad are committed in Thailand – a chilling figure, given that Thailand comprises only 0.6 per cent of all foreign travel from UK shores.


when you consider that most brits in thailand will either be drunk, high or spending lots of time and money with whores than its really not that surprising

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Posted 2008-01-15 16:42:07

View Postkopite, on 2008-01-15 17:29:01, said:

View Posttrader1, on 2008-01-15 15:21:19, said:

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On average, about 50 civilian UK nationals are murdered around the world each year (excluding terrorist attacks). This means that almost 10 per cent of all murders of Britons abroad are committed in Thailand – a chilling figure, given that Thailand comprises only 0.6 per cent of all foreign travel from UK shores.


when you consider that most brits in thailand will either be drunk, high or spending lots of time and money with whores than its really not that surprising

and they are not doing that elsewhere they holiday :D

If they are to be believed noe of the Brits on this board do any of those things :o

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Posted 2008-01-15 16:58:16

View PostPrakanong, on 2008-01-15 16:42:07, said:

View Postkopite, on 2008-01-15 17:29:01, said:

View Posttrader1, on 2008-01-15 15:21:19, said:

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On average, about 50 civilian UK nationals are murdered around the world each year (excluding terrorist attacks). This means that almost 10 per cent of all murders of Britons abroad are committed in Thailand – a chilling figure, given that Thailand comprises only 0.6 per cent of all foreign travel from UK shores.


when you consider that most brits in thailand will either be drunk, high or spending lots of time and money with whores than its really not that surprising

and they are not doing that elsewhere they holiday :D

If they are to be believed noe of the Brits on this board do any of those things :o


its more to do with the type of brit that visit thailand. most of them are either young and reckless or old and stupid. the latter in abundance

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Posted 2008-01-15 17:34:28

[quote name='kopite' post='1763152' date='2008-01-15 16:58:16'][quote name='Prakanong' post='1763127' date='2008-01-15 16:42:07'][quote name='kopite' post='1763106' date='2008-01-15 17:29:01'][quote name='trader1' post='1762982' date='2008-01-15 15:21:19'][quote]On average, about 50 civilian UK nationals are murdered around the world each year (excluding terrorist attacks). This means that almost 10 per cent of all murders of Britons abroad are committed in Thailand – a chilling figure, given that Thailand comprises only 0.6 per cent of all foreign travel from UK shores.[/quote]

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when you consider that most brits in thailand will either be drunk, high or spending lots of time and money with whores than its really not that surprising
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and they are not doing that elsewhere they holiday :D

If they are to be believed noe of the Brits on this board do any of those things :o
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its more to do with the type of brit that visit thailand. most of them are either young and reckless or old and stupid. the latter in abundance
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Posted 2008-01-15 19:04:13

Like New Zealand, Britain might have some sort of website connected to Immigration which allows individuals overseas and intending travellers to see what 'level' of danger a city/region/country is in (set by officials).

The New Zealand Ministry of Foreign Affairs and Trade maintains a website called Safe Travel, it provides information regarding safe travel etc..

You can find a link here to check it out: http://www.safetravel.govt.nz



 


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