Posted 2008-03-26 06:39:19
 chinkles, on 2008-03-26 06:35:57, said:
mangostays, on 2008-03-25 20:17:21, said: Mark Wolfe, on 2008-03-25 10:30:21, said: Baco started this thread with:
Quote Last night 1 swedish tourist and a thai died after a bar fight, with knives and bottles.
they were rushed to samui but died overthere in the hospital
The factual errors here are obvious.
HINT: Try getting some facts before you post such things.
LESSON: Never, never interfere in a fight that in no way concerns you.
It's a rule that I would have thought anyone with any sense would already know.
Mark, don't be ridiculous. Are you telling me and the rest of the readers of this forum that if for example, you saw a fourteen year old 'boy' beating the crap out of, for example, a twenty year old girl, then you wouldn't get involved on the grounds that you didn't know them? This is exactly the sort of attitude that allows little thugs to get away with murder.
Get a spine man.
well said my friend,but remember if you are prepared to break up a fight make sure you are not on your own!!!!
Posted 2008-03-26 07:59:08
[quote name='chinkles' post='1891909' date='2008-03-26 06:39:19'][quote name='chinkles' post='1891906' date='2008-03-26 06:35:57'][quote name='mangostays' post='1891303' date='2008-03-25 20:17:21'][quote name='Mark Wolfe' post='1890384' date='2008-03-25 10:30:21']Baco started this thread with:
[quote]Last night 1 swedish tourist and a thai died after a bar fight, with knives and bottles.
they were rushed to samui but died overthere in the hospital[/quote]
The factual errors here are obvious.
HINT: Try getting some facts before you post such things.
LESSON: Never, never interfere in a fight that in no way concerns you.
It's a rule that I would have thought anyone with any sense would already know.
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Mark, don't be ridiculous. Are you telling me and the rest of the readers of this forum that if for example, you saw a fourteen year old 'boy' beating the crap out of, for example, a twenty year old girl, then you wouldn't get involved on the grounds that you didn't know them? This is exactly the sort of attitude that allows little thugs to get away with murder.
Get a spine man.
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well said my friend,but remember if you are prepared to break up a fight make sure you are not on your own!!!!
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that is exactly the sorte of attidue that gets you murdered. if u not have a problem with that then by all means get involved but don't expect my sympathy
Posted 2008-03-26 08:16:37
mangostays, on 2008-03-25 14:05:37, said: LaoPo, on 2008-03-24 23:09:45, said: mangostays, on 2008-03-24 16:29:20, said: sbk, on 2008-03-24 21:34:13, said: Choochart played down the recent killings, saying, "I believe security in Thailand is better than in many other countries." He also said that some of the attacks were occasioned by the behavior of the women themselves. Under a front-page photograph of a Western woman in a skimpy bikini, The Bangkok Post quoted Choochart as saying, "They tend to choose a quiet spot away from other people, take off the bikini and sunbathe. That's when the attackers strike."
Choochart is of course 100% correct, Thailand's security is better than many other countries - Burma, Iraq, Afghanistan, Somalia; to name but four. This does not make Thailand 'safe' though. And to the topless sun bathers, no it's not ok, the Thais don't like it, it makes them embarassed and causes a lot of confusion amongst the men folk. TIT. (pardon the pun)
Back to the violence thing, offend, even unintentionally, or cross swords with a wanabe gangsta or yabbad up teenager and you can quite easily get your head stamped by him and the passing postman until your brain comes out of your ears.
Incidentally, just before he died, the poor indian bloke lying was face down on the beach with a bunch of 'big mafia' throwing bottles at his head from a couple of feet away. Got that from somebody who was there.
Big Mafia, big taxi driver. Same same. Cheap gangs, cheap guns, cheap gold. Cowards, the lot of them.
Can't believe to read such nonsense....and also SAD to read you agree with this nut head Choochart, speaking such awful words after a completely innocent girl was murdered. As if walking on a beach in Thailand in a normal bikini is ASKING for rape and murder... 
And, you compare Burma, Iraq, Afghanistan and Somalia with Thailand ?  Do these countries also attract 14 Million tourists every year ?
So, an innocent girl was 'asking' to be murdered, but you talk about "the poor Indian bloke"....
Shame on you.
LaoPo
LaoPo, you have totally missed the point of my post. Do you really think I was being genuinely serious in my comparisons? Have you never hear of satire?
Yes, I think I missed your point. Suppose I have to get used to your style of writing....and, Yes, I have heard of satire; it was a good one since I took it for real.
Rant over. 
LaoPo
Posted 2008-03-26 09:14:19
[quote name='LaoPo' post='1891981' date='2008-03-26 08:16:37'][quote name='mangostays' post='1891283' date='2008-03-25 14:05:37'][quote name='LaoPo' post='1889818' date='2008-03-24 23:09:45'][quote name='mangostays' post='1889764' date='2008-03-24 16:29:20'][quote name='sbk' post='1889680' date='2008-03-24 21:34:13']Choochart played down the recent killings, saying, "I believe security in Thailand is better than in many other countries." He also said that some of the attacks were occasioned by the behavior of the women themselves. Under a front-page photograph of a Western woman in a skimpy bikini, The Bangkok Post quoted Choochart as saying, "They tend to choose a quiet spot away from other people, take off the bikini and sunbathe. That's when the attackers strike."[/quote]
Choochart is of course 100% correct, Thailand's security is better than many other countries - Burma, Iraq, Afghanistan, Somalia; to name but four. This does not make Thailand 'safe' though. And to the topless sun bathers, no it's not ok, the Thais don't like it, it makes them embarassed and causes a lot of confusion amongst the men folk. TIT. (pardon the pun)
Back to the violence thing, offend, even unintentionally, or cross swords with a wanabe gangsta or yabbad up teenager and you can quite easily get your head stamped by him and the passing postman until your brain comes out of your ears.
Incidentally, just before he died, the poor indian bloke lying was face down on the beach with a bunch of 'big mafia' throwing bottles at his head from a couple of feet away. Got that from somebody who was there.
Big Mafia, big taxi driver. Same same. Cheap gangs, cheap guns, cheap gold. Cowards, the lot of them.
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Can't believe to read such nonsense....and also SAD to read you agree with this nut head Choochart, speaking such awful words after a completely innocent girl was murdered. As if walking on a beach in Thailand in a normal bikini is ASKING for rape and murder...
And, you compare Burma, Iraq, Afghanistan and Somalia with Thailand ? Do these countries also attract 14 Million tourists every year ?
So, an innocent girl was 'asking' to be murdered, but you talk about "the poor Indian bloke"....
Shame on you.
LaoPo
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LaoPo, you have totally missed the point of my post. Do you really think I was being genuinely serious in my comparisons? Have you never hear of satire?
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Yes, I think I missed your point. Suppose I have to get used to your style of writing....and, Yes, I have heard of satire; it was a good one since I took it for real.
Rant over.
LaoPo
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No worries mate. I have been known to be a bit tongue in cheek at times.......... 
Posted 2008-03-26 09:20:31
[quote name='BigC' post='1891965' date='2008-03-26 07:59:08'][quote name='chinkles' post='1891909' date='2008-03-26 06:39:19'][quote name='chinkles' post='1891906' date='2008-03-26 06:35:57'][quote name='mangostays' post='1891303' date='2008-03-25 20:17:21'][quote name='Mark Wolfe' post='1890384' date='2008-03-25 10:30:21']Baco started this thread with:
[quote]Last night 1 swedish tourist and a thai died after a bar fight, with knives and bottles.
they were rushed to samui but died overthere in the hospital[/quote]
The factual errors here are obvious.
HINT: Try getting some facts before you post such things.
LESSON: Never, never interfere in a fight that in no way concerns you.
It's a rule that I would have thought anyone with any sense would already know.
[/quote]
Mark, don't be ridiculous. Are you telling me and the rest of the readers of this forum that if for example, you saw a fourteen year old 'boy' beating the crap out of, for example, a twenty year old girl, then you wouldn't get involved on the grounds that you didn't know them? This is exactly the sort of attitude that allows little thugs to get away with murder.
Get a spine man.
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well said my friend,but remember if you are prepared to break up a fight make sure you are not on your own!!!!
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that is exactly the sorte of attidue that gets you murdered. if u not have a problem with that then by all means get involved but don't expect my sympathy
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It's not an attitude, it's a human principle.
Obviously don't go swinging into a no win situation, but if you can help without getting maimed, then step in. Personally, I'm pretty confident that I could knock seven bells out of a fourteen year old boy, and his mates, without breaking a sweat. Even if they are armed with 'food scrapers'.
Posted 2008-03-26 15:01:17
[quote name='mangostays' post='1892078' date='2008-03-26 09:20:31'][quote name='BigC' post='1891965' date='2008-03-26 07:59:08'][quote name='chinkles' post='1891909' date='2008-03-26 06:39:19'][quote name='chinkles' post='1891906' date='2008-03-26 06:35:57'][quote name='mangostays' post='1891303' date='2008-03-25 20:17:21'][quote name='Mark Wolfe' post='1890384' date='2008-03-25 10:30:21']Baco started this thread with:
[quote]Last night 1 swedish tourist and a thai died after a bar fight, with knives and bottles.
they were rushed to samui but died overthere in the hospital[/quote]
The factual errors here are obvious.
HINT: Try getting some facts before you post such things.
LESSON: Never, never interfere in a fight that in no way concerns you.
It's a rule that I would have thought anyone with any sense would already know.
[/quote]
Mark, don't be ridiculous. Are you telling me and the rest of the readers of this forum that if for example, you saw a fourteen year old 'boy' beating the crap out of, for example, a twenty year old girl, then you wouldn't get involved on the grounds that you didn't know them? This is exactly the sort of attitude that allows little thugs to get away with murder.
Get a spine man.
[/quote]
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well said my friend,but remember if you are prepared to break up a fight make sure you are not on your own!!!!
[/quote]
that is exactly the sorte of attidue that gets you murdered. if u not have a problem with that then by all means get involved but don't expect my sympathy
[/quote]
It's not an attitude, it's a human principle.
Obviously don't go swinging into a no win situation, but if you can help without getting maimed, then step in. Personally, I'm pretty confident that I could knock seven bells out of a fourteen year old boy, and his mates, without breaking a sweat. Even if they are armed with 'food scrapers'.
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so, was this what you would have considered a :no-win situation"?
sure seems to have turned out as one.
perhaps you should spend some time at the full moon making the workd safe for the rest of us
Posted 2008-03-27 07:26:58
[quote name='mangostays' post='1892078' date='2008-03-26 09:20:31'][quote name='BigC' post='1891965' date='2008-03-26 07:59:08'][quote name='chinkles' post='1891909' date='2008-03-26 06:39:19'][quote name='chinkles' post='1891906' date='2008-03-26 06:35:57'][quote name='mangostays' post='1891303' date='2008-03-25 20:17:21'][quote name='Mark Wolfe' post='1890384' date='2008-03-25 10:30:21']Baco started this thread with:
[quote]Last night 1 swedish tourist and a thai died after a bar fight, with knives and bottles.
they were rushed to samui but died overthere in the hospital[/quote]
The factual errors here are obvious.
HINT: Try getting some facts before you post such things.
LESSON: Never, never interfere in a fight that in no way concerns you.
It's a rule that I would have thought anyone with any sense would already know.
[/quote]
Mark, don't be ridiculous. Are you telling me and the rest of the readers of this forum that if for example, you saw a fourteen year old 'boy' beating the crap out of, for example, a twenty year old girl, then you wouldn't get involved on the grounds that you didn't know them? This is exactly the sort of attitude that allows little thugs to get away with murder.
Get a spine man.
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well said my friend,but remember if you are prepared to break up a fight make sure you are not on your own!!!!
[/quote]
that is exactly the sorte of attidue that gets you murdered. if u not have a problem with that then by all means get involved but don't expect my sympathy
[/quote]
It's not an attitude, it's a human principle.
Obviously don't go swinging into a no win situation, but if you can help without getting maimed, then step in. Personally, I'm pretty confident that I could knock seven bells out of a fourteen year old boy, and his mates, without breaking a sweat. Even if they are armed with 'food scrapers'.
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maybe u could butthere are some hard 14 year olds out there. i get mreo roubke from kids than men becuase kids not think and they are tring to prove them selves. personally if it was england i would jump in but here in thailand there and many local people with big families and if u trend on a family memebers toes then u might get your head blown off. of coarse u would not know this til after u kucked 17 bells of shit out of one.
Posted 2008-03-27 14:57:51
mangostays, on 2008-03-24 14:12:14, said: sriracha john, on 2008-03-24 19:47:34, said: sbk, on 2008-03-23 11:57:37, said: From what I understand, he was trying to break up a fight and got in the middle, the other two parties did not die, is what I have been told. And, according to the news article, he was Indian, not Swedish.
Not died, but critically injured...
and the suspected killer of the Indian tourist.... is 14....  
Provincial Police Region 8 Track down Full-Moon Party Killer
The commander of Provincial Policed Region 8 traveled to Pa Ngan Island to interrogate the teen-aged suspect allegedly involved in the stabbing of a foreign tourist during a fight at the famed full-moon party.
Police Lieutenant General Thanee Tawitsee, commander of Provincial Police Region 8, traveled by helicopter to Pa Ngan Island yesterday evening to interrogate a suspect, allegedly involved in the stabbing of a foreign tourist.
The suspect is a 14-year-old boy and he is arrested for taking part in a fight during a full moon party at Haad Rin.
The boy is suspected of having stabbed 24-year-old Chetan Dadhwal with a hand metal scraper. Dadhwal was an Indian national who tried to break up the fight and was then stabbed. He later died while being hospitalized at Bann Don Inter Samui Hospital.
The suspect denied all charges despite evidence found by police and witnesses who identified him as the culprit. He has been charged with causing a disturbance which resulted in the death of others and is in custody.
The 15-year-old victim who Dadhwal was trying to help was reportedly stabbed four times with the hand scraper as well. His condition is still critical and he remains under close medical observation.
- Thailand Outlook (today)
As heard on the grape vine.....
This is the second death to occur within the imediate vicinity of the Drop In Bar in less than six months. Apparantly the place is now having all it's documents checked and if all is not in order faces closure. An English girl was also raped that night by four thais (again, an association with the Drop In Bar was mentioned). The story goes that she went to the local police station with a translator from a local cafe the next day and ended up signing a statement confessing to being 'drunk and out of control'. She has now left the Island. The foreign run bunglow resort where she was staying has all the details.
As for the death of Chetan Dadhwal, absolutely terrible and a waste of a life. It will be interesting to see what happens to the 14 yr old murderer (bet you're not feeling like such a big man now are you??)
No surprise trouble at drop in bar again have seen many fights in there
Posted 2008-03-30 09:24:00
the alleged killer has turned from 14 y/o to 24 y/o...
Man turns himself in for murder of Indian tourist
Stabbing took place after fight at party
A man suspected of killing an Indian tourist during a full moon party on Koh Phangan in Surat Thani turned himself in to police yesterday. Thani Rakkapao, 24, a Surat Thani native, confessed to stabbing to death Chetan Dadhwal, 24, on March 22, police said. According to police, Thani said that about 2 AM that morning he was partying along with several other people when a fight broke out. He said a man smashed a beer bottle in his face and tried to stab him with the broken bottle. He stabbed the person with his knife and left the scene, police reported Thani as saying. The suspect turned himself in after learning that the man he had stabbed was an Indian tourist, police said, adding that they had charged Thani with unintentional murder.
Continued here:
http://www.bangkokpo...2008_news15.php
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* Mods: In light of the information gathered and in the interest of clarity and specificity, might consideration be given to modifying the thread title to something akin to:
Indian Tourist Murdered During Full Moon Party
movement of the thread to News Clipping Forum might also be warranted IMHO
Edited by sriracha john, 2008-03-30 09:25:08.
Posted 2008-03-30 09:54:19
SJ, moving to the News Clipping Forum is a contentious issue in this forum. It gets moved and people complain that it is an attempt to cover up bad news on the islands. It doesn't get moved and people complain that it is an attempt to keep the news from the broader public.
In that light, I have opened a new thread taken from off-topic posts made in the thread about the girl getting raped on Samui Request for a Samui News Clipping Forum.
For those concerned please address these issues there and not in this thread.
moved to the News Clippings Forum
///MOVED///
Posted 2008-03-30 10:03:00
Not sure I understand the rationale of how moving a news item to a bigger forum from a local forum in order for wider dissemination can be construed as "covering something up"... but oh well.
Thank you for the re-titling and movement.
Posted 2008-03-30 10:36:49
Given the amount of alcohol that is consumed in Thailand - I am surprised there is NOT more visible violence. Sure, you see drunken foreigners in tourist areas (like Pattaya) but the Thais seem to hold their liquor quite well, and then fall asleep.
Peter
Posted 2008-03-30 11:56:00
peter991, on 2008-03-30 11:36:49, said: Given the amount of alcohol that is consumed in Thailand - I am surprised there is NOT more visible violence. Sure, you see drunken foreigners in tourist areas (like Pattaya) but the Thais seem to hold their liquor quite well, and then fall asleep.
Peter
Sadly not true, the morlam concerts in our village were cancelled because of stupid fights between drunk teenagers.
And this story tells the same tale. I read the article in the Thai press about the surrender of the suspect in this case and the policeman in charge said at least 10 Thai local teenagers were involved in the brawl.
Future Full Moon parties would see stepped-up security, he said, because more and more Thai revellers were attending and he feared a repetition of further violence.
Posted 2008-03-31 02:00:59
girlx, on 2008-03-23 11:03:52, said: Quote Full Moon Party? Who really, seriously gives a toss anymore. Sooner it's shut down the sooner we can get on with a bit of normality and flush all the baddies off the island.
agreed, the full moon party is an embarassment
i agree its been like that for the last few years ,full of idiots the only time i ever go there is when the full moon is over its to normality then lovely peace and quiet . bliss
Posted 2008-03-31 09:45:33
Quote the alleged killer has turned from 14 y/o to 24 y/o Quote
guess he wont be allowed to play computer games for 1 week as punishment....
Posted 2008-03-31 16:52:54
mangostays, on 2008-03-25 20:05:37, said: LaoPo, on 2008-03-24 23:09:45, said: mangostays, on 2008-03-24 16:29:20, said: sbk, on 2008-03-24 21:34:13, said: Choochart played down the recent killings, saying, "I believe security in Thailand is better than in many other countries." He also said that some of the attacks were occasioned by the behavior of the women themselves. Under a front-page photograph of a Western woman in a skimpy bikini, The Bangkok Post quoted Choochart as saying, "They tend to choose a quiet spot away from other people, take off the bikini and sunbathe. That's when the attackers strike."
Choochart is of course 100% correct, Thailand's security is better than many other countries - Burma, Iraq, Afghanistan, Somalia; to name but four.
Can't believe to read such nonsense....and also SAD to read you agree with this nut head Choochart, speaking such awful words after a completely innocent girl was murdered.
And, you compare Burma, Iraq, Afghanistan and Somalia with Thailand ? Do these countries also attract 14 Million tourists every year ?
Shame on you.
LaoPo
LaoPo, you have totally missed the point of my post. Do you really think I was being genuinely serious in my comparisons? Have you never hear of satire?
LaoPo -- and many others -- have missed this same point in the last four or five threads with regard to crimes against tourists.
Even though his views are often spot-on, at least with regard to the crimes described here, thinking on Thai Visa has very often been sadly one-dimensional (even with threads from moderators to ban posters who disagree with this particular view).
The thought that somebody can behave carefully to not attract crime while at the same time this does still put full responsibility (or 'blame') on the perpetrator seems to be too multi-dimensional an approach for Thai Visa.
Shame on you, harsh words indeed.
Posted 2008-03-31 16:56:13
sriracha john, on 2008-03-30 09:24:00, said: the alleged killer has turned from 14 y/o to 24 y/o...
Interesting twist to the unfolding story... who else thinks it is (not!) weird that the police quickly "solves the case" by arresting an under-age teenager -- who cannot be charged to the same extend and did not even come from Phangan by what I read here...
Posted 2008-04-01 13:16:48
BigC, on 2008-03-25 13:37:12, said: chinkles, on 2008-03-24 06:48:11, said: CCC, on 2008-03-23 17:44:07, said: Just come back after three months ,I/we also broke up a figh what was between thai girls it was pretty nasty bottels knifes etc..three of the girls would of been killed i am sure if we did not step in & put us in a bad situation
the "security" we're not the best & as for the police what a load of mugs the police must off been called who know's how many times saying be there in a minute etc but never turned up after we waited up 2hours having to stop this fight & get the girls out of there as the "gang" was waiting for them & carried on attacking them....
the police really want to sort it out & more security in the bars they must have the money to pay for this.
to be honest mate i would never get in the way of thai girsl fighting ,they are more ferious than thai men DO NOT GO NEAR THEM NUTTERS 
i don't know why anybody wants to break up fights when it is none of the septaters business. who knows why the people are fighting. if u want to break up a fights then don't be suprised if u become the focus of thier attension. best thing to do is sit back and watch unless it is one of your friends or family memebrs involved. too many wanna be heros. alot of wanna be heros dead!
Bear in mind that it was a child (teenager) being savagely attacked.
As to why anybody would want to risk their life to stop a murder (especially a murder of a youngster, or one wher the victim was clearly out-numered): some people would find it hard living with themselves if they just stood by did need nothing while a helpless person was killed. Some people would find that immoral. Evidentally not most of the people who have posted on this thread thus far, but I wonder to what extent people who fee the need to denounce a Godd Samaritan are motivated by the knowledge thatthey persoally don't have the courage.
Some people realize tht they are goig to die someday, and care more about having lived a decent, moral life than when that someday is.
From the sounds of this, it was not (or became not) a free fight among equals. However it started, it became a brutal attempt (ultimately successful) to kill..repeated slashing of a young boy.
Personally, I think this man did the right thing in trying to intervene to save the boy. Not the thing in his own personal best interest, but the morally right thing. I readily admit that I don't kowif I wouldhave had the courage in his shoes...but I do kow tat if I didn't, I'd be haunted by it afterwards.
He died duing the right thing, in a sitation where doing te right thing was very dangerous and few would have had the courage. his family should take comfort in that, and the people on this forum -- irrespective of whether they would persoally have the courage to do thesame -- should honor that.
Just my 2 cents.
Posted 2008-04-01 16:28:01
Sheryl, on 2008-04-01 13:16:48, said: Personally, I think this man did the right thing in trying to intervene to save the boy. Not the thing in his own personal best interest, but the morally right thing. I readily admit that I don't kowif I wouldhave had the courage in his shoes...but I do kow tat if I didn't, I'd be haunted by it afterwards.
He died duing the right thing, in a sitation where doing te right thing was very dangerous and few would have had the courage. his family should take comfort in that, and the people on this forum -- irrespective of whether they would persoally have the courage to do thesame -- should honor that.
I agree with this post 100%. Sometimes -- even in Thailand -- it is right to step in, without regard for personal danger. Kids attacked by a whole mob would be such a situation.
Shame on the police for arresting one of the attacked underage boys as actual perpetrator of the murder, if that is how the facts come out now.
Posted 2008-04-01 19:18:59
It seems this is getting out of control... More than 1 tourist pr week is being murdered nowdays..... Add to that suicides, and where talking 10+ per month.
Posted 2008-04-01 19:24:09
jts-khorat, on 2008-04-01 16:28:01, said: Sheryl, on 2008-04-01 13:16:48, said: Personally, I think this man did the right thing in trying to intervene to save the boy. Not the thing in his own personal best interest, but the morally right thing. I readily admit that I don't kowif I wouldhave had the courage in his shoes...but I do kow tat if I didn't, I'd be haunted by it afterwards.
He died duing the right thing, in a sitation where doing te right thing was very dangerous and few would have had the courage. his family should take comfort in that, and the people on this forum -- irrespective of whether they would persoally have the courage to do thesame -- should honor that.
I agree with this post 100%. Sometimes -- even in Thailand -- it is right to step in, without regard for personal danger. Kids attacked by a whole mob would be such a situation.
Shame on the police for arresting one of the attacked underage boys as actual perpetrator of the murder, if that is how the facts come out now.
I used to think the same thing... Nowdays i'd turn round and walk in the opposite direction.
Posted 2008-04-01 19:50:50
Every time I read posts like this, (which lately are numerous) I'm so glad I don't live in a tourist area. 
Posted 2008-04-03 01:41:58
sriracha john, on 2008-03-24 06:47:34, said: sbk, on 2008-03-23 11:57:37, said: From what I understand, he was trying to break up a fight and got in the middle, the other two parties did not die, is what I have been told. And, according to the news article, he was Indian, not Swedish.
Not died, but critically injured...
and the suspected killer of the Indian tourist.... is 14....
Provincial Police Region 8 Track down Full-Moon Party Killer
The commander of Provincial Policed Region 8 traveled to Pa Ngan Island to interrogate the teen-aged suspect allegedly involved in the stabbing of a foreign tourist during a fight at the famed full-moon party.
Police Lieutenant General Thanee Tawitsee, commander of Provincial Police Region 8, traveled by helicopter to Pa Ngan Island yesterday evening to interrogate a suspect, allegedly involved in the stabbing of a foreign tourist.
The suspect is a 14-year-old boy and he is arrested for taking part in a fight during a full moon party at Haad Rin.
The boy is suspected of having stabbed 24-year-old Chetan Dadhwal with a hand metal scraper. Dadhwal was an Indian national who tried to break up the fight and was then stabbed. He later died while being hospitalized at Bann Don Inter Samui Hospital.
The suspect denied all charges despite evidence found by police and witnesses who identified him as the culprit. He has been charged with causing a disturbance which resulted in the death of others and is in custody.
The 15-year-old victim who Dadhwal was trying to help was reportedly stabbed four times with the hand scraper as well. His condition is still critical and he remains under close medical observation.
- Thailand Outlook (today)
Goodness that's terrible. It's so sad that humans will do such things to one another.
Posted 2008-04-03 02:12:02
TopDogger, on 2008-04-01 19:24:09, said: jts-khorat, on 2008-04-01 16:28:01, said: Sheryl, on 2008-04-01 13:16:48, said: Personally, I think this man did the right thing in trying to intervene to save the boy. Not the thing in his own personal best interest, but the morally right thing. I readily admit that I don't kowif I wouldhave had the courage in his shoes...but I do kow tat if I didn't, I'd be haunted by it afterwards.
He died duing the right thing, in a sitation where doing te right thing was very dangerous and few would have had the courage. his family should take comfort in that, and the people on this forum -- irrespective of whether they would persoally have the courage to do thesame -- should honor that.
I agree with this post 100%. Sometimes -- even in Thailand -- it is right to step in, without regard for personal danger. Kids attacked by a whole mob would be such a situation.
Shame on the police for arresting one of the attacked underage boys as actual perpetrator of the murder, if that is how the facts come out now.
I used to think the same thing... Nowdays i'd turn round and walk in the opposite direction.
I fully agree. It is too dangerous to get involved here. I once saw a woman fall off her bike on the side of the road and it tore me up inside to drive past. I felt so ashamed and helpess knowing that I could not do anything, and if I did help in anyway I could possibly be liable for anything and everything from that point on.
This is where we chose to live and like it or not there are different rules here. Sorry to say I am not surprised the "mob" turned on him. This is Thailand and I have yet to see a one on one fight except in the ring. I compare it to a feeding frenzy; when there is a fight and Thais are involved it is a full on "mob" mentality and they will do anything to win.
Posted 2008-04-03 03:35:32
Mark Wolfe, on 2008-03-25 10:30:21, said: LESSON: Never, never interfere in a fight that in no way concerns you.
It's a rule that I would have thought anyone with any sense would already know.
I will say: Never, never interfere in a fight, even if it concerns you.
And about to interfere in a fight between thais, no no and no. I will never jump in the enraged monkey cage.
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