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Posted 2008-04-17 02:05:05
 Robbie Dye, on 2008-04-14 13:26:33, said:
A cynic might say that that as Thailand does not have a war to fight, this is Mother Natures way of culling the population. I read today also that the Interior Minsiter is considering banning alcohol at Songkran next year, that would make it like a 7 day election and kiss goodbye to even more tourists. Let's face it, whatever we say or think, nothing will change because the Thais seem to LIKE risking their own lives and that of others with lunatic behaviour. I feel truly sorry for the loss of life incurred thus fare and for what is still to come. Happy Songkran, stay at home!
Right mate.
What else to say.
The 20 years (very promising and educated) old brother of my to be daughter in law lost his live because he joined a lunatic drunken driver after a party. He himself didn't drink. What a shame. Hope I wil not lose one of me kids if they join a drunken driver. My brother in law (thai) and a teacher turned over his car while driving under the influence. Hope less. 
Posted 2008-04-17 10:32:16
mangostays, on 2008-04-14 17:05:26, said: 
I am getting sick and tired of reading post after post, written by expats or tourists or whatever, complaining and criticising the Thai police, the Thai traditions and the resident Thai citizens for behaving in a manner 'they' deem unaceptable. Sure, should that Thai erson/cop/politician person behave like that in the the foreigner's home country then they would be given a good flogging and sent to jail forever, BUT YOU ARE NOT IN YOUR HOME COUNTRY!!!! For gods sake, you are an expat living in a foreign country, get with the program and accept that things happen differently over here. That means differnt rules, different standards and different, well everything. If you can't come to terms with kids driving motorbikes and cops taking backhanders and all the rest of the stuff that goes on in Asia generally, then please bugger off back home and stop anoying the rest of us, who actually quite enjoy it over here.
Please, PLEASE, stop using this site and simlar to vent your phobias, missunderstandings and other culture shock related fears - we know it can be anoying sometimes, and yes, it is confusing and often frustrating, but it's still better than crappy weather, 34% income tax (my backet anyway) and 17.5% VAT.
Incidentally, I went out yesterday in Koh Phangan, on a motorbike, with my 1 year old son. The thais did not throw water in our faces, nobody crashed into us and I didn't get stabbed or shot of done by the police. However,some Thai people did respectfully splash water over us with my blessing (shock horror!!!).
The only people who did throw water in my face as I was driving (slowly and sobely) along were the pissed tourists hanging out of the girly bars in Baan Tai.
Your absolutely right mangostays with what you are saying, but who could we complain about if we couldn't complain about the foreigners who complain
I think those foreigners are unfortunately are part of this country to. Thanks Thailand by not making it to easy for foreigners to live here.
LiveSteam
Posted 2008-04-17 10:40:39
I applaud gdhm and others who pointed out that those of us who complain do so because we CARE, not because we're unappreciative or don't like living here. We (I'm speaking for myself and hopefully others) would like to see some aspects of living in this great country improve. Those changes also coincided with Thai laws and seem to be desired by many Thais, including the government. The senseless loss of life due to irresponsible driving habits is simply not acceptable for those of us who TRULY CARE! We don't (speaking for myself again) want to see Thailand turn into the countries that we left.
Keep complaining guys and gals... this is a possible avenue for change 
Posted 2008-04-17 11:05:25
Galong, on 2008-04-17 10:40:39, said: I applaud gdhm and others who pointed out that those of us who complain do so because we CARE, not because we're unappreciative or don't like living here. We (I'm speaking for myself and hopefully others) would like to see some aspects of living in this great country improve. Those changes also coincided with Thai laws and seem to be desired by many Thais, including the government. The senseless loss of life due to irresponsible driving habits is simply not acceptable for those of us who TRULY CARE! We don't (speaking for myself again) want to see Thailand turn into the countries that we left.
Keep complaining guys and gals... this is a possible avenue for change
No, sorry. You do not love everything about Thailand unconditionally. Home you go. 
Posted 2008-04-17 11:12:18
I am usually an apologist for Thai behaviour, but on this subject, I am one of those "disrespectful" farangs that says I wish the festival would revert to its religious basis and return to being a joyous peaceful festival where people show concern and not an intent to maim, damage or otherwise harass. I think you will find that my views are shared by many religious Thais. There is a big diff in getting splashed by a friend with a genuine smile than a drunken tard firing tigerbalm laced pisswater from a speeding pickup.
Posted 2008-04-17 11:26:56
baboon, on 2008-04-17 04:05:25, said: Galong, on 2008-04-17 10:40:39, said: I applaud gdhm and others who pointed out that those of us who complain do so because we CARE, not because we're unappreciative or don't like living here. We (I'm speaking for myself and hopefully others) would like to see some aspects of living in this great country improve. Those changes also coincided with Thai laws and seem to be desired by many Thais, including the government. The senseless loss of life due to irresponsible driving habits is simply not acceptable for those of us who TRULY CARE! We don't (speaking for myself again) want to see Thailand turn into the countries that we left.
Keep complaining guys and gals... this is a possible avenue for change
No, sorry. You do not love everything about Thailand unconditionally. Home you go.
Very curious attitude.
To wish to protect good people from harm in some way disqualifies a person from being in Thailand. Thailand does not exist in an untouchable bubble that prevents it from becoming better.
Whether that is in a Thai way or not, improvement is improvement and wishing that fewer people died during Songkran would appear to be a immutably good belief wouldn't it or a foreigner do you believe that I am not to have an opinion? I don't want nor believe that Thailand should or ever will become overly westernised, but to want to protect life of those around you is a basic human trait, not exclusive to Thailand. Do you not think that the families of those killed during the last few days are suffering, and even a small percentage of them believe that it was unavoidable?
Maybe we should ban motorcycles and cars since they were after all the internal combustion engine was a foreign invention.
Posted 2008-04-17 13:37:06
When will something be done to stop this Songkran madness.
I have just got back home from a shocking experience in Kanchanaburi.
I felt that I was running a gauntlet as I rode my Phantom through the frenzied crowds of water and powder chuckers.
One time I was bought to a halt by a young girl, she must have been 16 or 17, no more who proceeded to douse me with water and smear powder on my face.
She was clearly aroused in some way as her nipples were very visible through her cotton vest. What was worse she seemed also not to be wearing a bra.
After riding past I decided to turn around just for confirmation of the shocking scene.
However, now because I was on the opposite side of the street I could only see her slim little behind barely hidden by the small soaking shorts she was wearing.
I rode on, too shocked for words.
Was this scene for real, I had to turn back once again just to confirm my worst fears.
The same girl doused me again, laughing at the fun. Her small pert breasts confirmed that yes she was wearing no bra.
Shocked beyond words I rode on only to stop once again a short distance along the road.
I had to turn back. The scene was too compelling to leave.
The same girl, the same soaking clinging clothes.
How many times I rode past I lost count but all too soon my motorcycle ran out of fuel.
Is there some guardian of Thai morals I can write too? I think they should be told.
Posted 2008-04-17 18:51:22
edwinchester, on 2008-04-17 14:37:06, said: When will something be done to stop this Songkran madness.
I have just got back home from a shocking experience in Kanchanaburi.
I felt that I was running a gauntlet as I rode my Phantom through the frenzied crowds of water and powder chuckers.
One time I was bought to a halt by a young girl, she must have been 16 or 17, no more who proceeded to douse me with water and smear powder on my face.
She was clearly aroused in some way as her nipples were very visible through her cotton vest. What was worse she seemed also not to be wearing a bra.
After riding past I decided to turn around just for confirmation of the shocking scene.
However, now because I was on the opposite side of the street I could only see her slim little behind barely hidden by the small soaking shorts she was wearing.
I rode on, too shocked for words.
Was this scene for real, I had to turn back once again just to confirm my worst fears.
The same girl doused me again, laughing at the fun. Her small pert breasts confirmed that yes she was wearing no bra.
Shocked beyond words I rode on only to stop once again a short distance along the road.
I had to turn back. The scene was too compelling to leave.
The same girl, the same soaking clinging clothes.
How many times I rode past I lost count but all too soon my motorcycle ran out of fuel.
Is there some guardian of Thai morals I can write too? I think they should be told.
LOL
Posted 2008-04-17 20:59:11
Edwinchester You have the correct notion for Songkang! Thats what we should remember is one of the Joys of the festival, the rest can spinkle a splash of water on their grannies. Just give me the shirt ripping jet fire hose of the truck anyday, but never at the face! LOL
And remember the idiots on the motorcycles! you don't think they don't know whats going to happen when the go out on the bloody things? or is it just the stupid farang popping to the 7/11 for a packet of Wonder reds and another four pack of Elephant piss has forgotton its that time of year?
As for boy racer with his super slim micro tyres, drilled out exhaust and dropped handlebars, isn't he doing his best to show off to the folks and pull! don't worry he will get his admirers! (You seen what they look like when have come off and rolled down road a few hundred feet and do the party trick, feet facing opposite way to head! Clever!)
Posted 2008-04-17 21:46:40
edwinchester, on 2008-04-17 13:37:06, said: When will something be done to stop this Songkran madness.
I have just got back home from a shocking experience in Kanchanaburi.
I felt that I was running a gauntlet as I rode my Phantom through the frenzied crowds of water and powder chuckers.
One time I was bought to a halt by a young girl, she must have been 16 or 17, no more who proceeded to douse me with water and smear powder on my face.
She was clearly aroused in some way as her nipples were very visible through her cotton vest. What was worse she seemed also not to be wearing a bra.
After riding past I decided to turn around just for confirmation of the shocking scene.
However, now because I was on the opposite side of the street I could only see her slim little behind barely hidden by the small soaking shorts she was wearing.
I rode on, too shocked for words.
Was this scene for real, I had to turn back once again just to confirm my worst fears.
The same girl doused me again, laughing at the fun. Her small pert breasts confirmed that yes she was wearing no bra.
Shocked beyond words I rode on only to stop once again a short distance along the road.
I had to turn back. The scene was too compelling to leave.
The same girl, the same soaking clinging clothes.
How many times I rode past I lost count but all too soon my motorcycle ran out of fuel.
Is there some guardian of Thai morals I can write too? I think they should be told.
Bloody hel_l mate- you should have given her one!
Edited by MISTERBONK, 2008-04-17 21:49:15.
Posted 2008-04-19 11:15:00
AlexLah, on 2008-04-14 19:37:03, said: It is ok Lah, if you die in accident it had to happen, this is called faith.
No worry maybe in your next Thai life you will be a LB as you have been having sex with other girls then your wife.
Mai pen rai.
Please believe me, most Thai people do not care about anything.
They just live day by day.
This is exactly the kid of biggoted horse c**p I'm talking about. How the hel_l can you say that 'most Thai people do not care about anything' ? Sure, sonkran is can be dangerous and a minority of people (both foreign and Thais) go mental and act like idiots, but how does this compare to our so called civilised westen countries on new years eve when certainly in the UK, by entering the vast majority of city pubs is quite simply suicidal.
Thaivisa is a great site, the info is superb, but the forums are full of the twisting rantings of bitter old European sexpats prowling the board for any post they have any issue with to launch a tirade of abuse at. Personally, I find this a bit tedious.
Open your minds gentle people and get with the program.
Posted 2008-04-19 11:18:59
mangostays, on 2008-04-19 11:15:00, said: AlexLah, on 2008-04-14 19:37:03, said: It is ok Lah, if you die in accident it had to happen, this is called faith.
No worry maybe in your next Thai life you will be a LB as you have been having sex with other girls then your wife.
Mai pen rai.
Please believe me, most Thai people do not care about anything.
They just live day by day.
This is exactly the kid of biggoted horse c**p I'm talking about. How the hel_l can you say that 'most Thai people do not care about anything' ? Sure, sonkran is can be dangerous and a minority of people (both foreign and Thais) go mental and act like idiots, but how does this compare to our so called civilised westen countries on new years eve when certainly in the UK, by entering the vast majority of city pubs is quite simply suicidal.
Thaivisa is a great site, the info is superb, but the forums are full of the twisting rantings of bitter old European sexpats prowling the board for any post they have any issue with to launch a tirade of abuse at. Personally, I find this a bit tedious.
Open your minds gentle people and get with the program.
Posted 2008-04-19 12:39:31
edwinchester, on 2008-04-17 13:37:06, said: When will something be done to stop this Songkran madness.
I have just got back home from a shocking experience in Kanchanaburi.
I felt that I was running a gauntlet as I rode my Phantom through the frenzied crowds of water and powder chuckers.
One time I was bought to a halt by a young girl, she must have been 16 or 17, no more who proceeded to douse me with water and smear powder on my face.
She was clearly aroused in some way as her nipples were very visible through her cotton vest. What was worse she seemed also not to be wearing a bra.
After riding past I decided to turn around just for confirmation of the shocking scene.
However, now because I was on the opposite side of the street I could only see her slim little behind barely hidden by the small soaking shorts she was wearing.
I rode on, too shocked for words.
Was this scene for real, I had to turn back once again just to confirm my worst fears.
The same girl doused me again, laughing at the fun. Her small pert breasts confirmed that yes she was wearing no bra.
Shocked beyond words I rode on only to stop once again a short distance along the road.
I had to turn back. The scene was too compelling to leave.
The same girl, the same soaking clinging clothes.
How many times I rode past I lost count but all too soon my motorcycle ran out of fuel.
Is there some guardian of Thai morals I can write too? I think they should be told.
I am so happy you confirmed what you saw. I for one would have joined her and offered her a warm shower 
Posted 2008-04-20 19:58:06
Bagwain, on 2008-04-19 12:39:31, said: edwinchester, on 2008-04-17 13:37:06, said: When will something be done to stop this Songkran madness.
I have just got back home from a shocking experience in Kanchanaburi.
I felt that I was running a gauntlet as I rode my Phantom through the frenzied crowds of water and powder chuckers.
One time I was bought to a halt by a young girl, she must have been 16 or 17, no more who proceeded to douse me with water and smear powder on my face.
She was clearly aroused in some way as her nipples were very visible through her cotton vest. What was worse she seemed also not to be wearing a bra.
After riding past I decided to turn around just for confirmation of the shocking scene.
However, now because I was on the opposite side of the street I could only see her slim little behind barely hidden by the small soaking shorts she was wearing.
I rode on, too shocked for words.
Was this scene for real, I had to turn back once again just to confirm my worst fears.
The same girl doused me again, laughing at the fun. Her small pert breasts confirmed that yes she was wearing no bra.
Shocked beyond words I rode on only to stop once again a short distance along the road.
I had to turn back. The scene was too compelling to leave.
The same girl, the same soaking clinging clothes.
How many times I rode past I lost count but all too soon my motorcycle ran out of fuel.
Is there some guardian of Thai morals I can write too? I think they should be told.
I am so happy you confirmed what you saw. I for one would have joined her and offered her a warm shower
Now I got thinking about this and I was not very compassionate in any way - so what I mean is--
The money she could have earn't would have gone to some extent to give her a new G string and nit noi padded bra (so to speak).
I feel better now!!!
Posted 2008-04-20 21:14:28
Back to the more serious side of the thread....
Final count was 276. Much more than the previous year. Sad
Posted 2008-04-22 01:33:20
tezzainoz, on 2008-04-14 19:41:26, said: I stay in Pattaya last Songkran with my Australia husband, and I see drunk tourists everywhere throwing water and some times bucket loads at people as they walk past or ride a bike, also the girls in the bars want to look smart so the join in to impress their Farang boyfriends
This year I go to Songkran in Australia where respect is shown, and no one is drunk or throw water
So as a Thai I say ban all drink in the bars, and drinking in public places, and if we loose drunk tourists I not care
Maybe then more good farang will come to Thailand, and we have respect for our holidays
I never will come Thailand again in April
well done.
passing through los angeles( largest thai community in u.s. ) mostly commerce, 1 set of girls splashing ( by hand) w/ respect.
i believe as it was meant to be.
i love los for what it is.
try living in mexico................................  it makes thailand seem like ..................... well.....................................you'd rather be in thailand. MAS MEJOR PUES!!!!!!! the things we do for surf.
Posted 2008-04-22 08:08:11
scotbeve, on 2008-04-20 21:14:28, said: Back to the more serious side of the thread....
Final count was 276. Much more than the previous year. Sad
Ooops, looked at an older newspaper...
+320 lives!! Appalling is the word that comes to mind.... And the word sanuk is far removed from the families grieveing. As previously stated, I really enjoy being out in the sticks and off larger roads during Songkran.
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