Phuket Immigration OfficeBank deposit for annual extension of O visa
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#1Posted 2008-05-09 16:32:01
Immigration still demand a bank statement, but does it matter what the balance is if it shows a regular income of 40K and a letter from the consulate confirms it. I don't want to keep 400K on deposit, which was required under the old regulations.
I've posted this question, hopefully to hear from other members who have just renewed their O visa on the basis of marriage to a Thai, showing 40K Baht / month income.....IN PHUKET I know other regions of Thailand have their own interpretation of the rules geoffphuket #2Posted 2008-05-09 17:09:02
I too am interested in an answer to this question. The rules on the Phuket Immigration web site are not so clear. It states the 40K income requirement, and also states the 400K in bank. It does not say OR. For the past 2 years I've given proof of income AND 400 K in bank (for 3 months) just to be on the safe side. I would prefer not to tie up 400K in the bank for the 3 months, but don't want to take the chance the the officer gets 'difficult' and turns down my application if no 400K...
#3Posted 2008-05-09 17:28:03
I too am interested in an answer to this question. The rules on the Phuket Immigration web site are not so clear. It states the 40K income requirement, and also states the 400K in bank. It does not say OR. For the past 2 years I've given proof of income AND 400 K in bank (for 3 months) just to be on the safe side. I would prefer not to tie up 400K in the bank for the 3 months, but don't want to take the chance the the officer gets 'difficult' and turns down my application if no 400K... Yes, we're both in the same situation. The missing 'OR' in their literature concerns me as well. Lets hope someone will clarify the matter. #4Posted 2008-05-10 19:40:41
LivinginKata and I are still waiting for an answer
#5Posted 2008-05-10 19:46:47
Couldn't you go and ask immigration in either Patong or, Phuket Town? It's not exactly very far to go.
#6Posted 2008-05-10 19:52:51
I remember a mate of mine in this situation said that phuket immi were a law unto themselves and wanted both.. Even tho thats not the rules.
I will see if I can get any exact info but I remember him grumbling as he was all set up for one of them and want for both of them, which way round it was I honestly cant remember. Also why not give them a call.. If you get a good answer you can then go forward on it.. A bad answer and your no worse off. #7Posted 2008-05-10 20:17:55
I remember a mate of mine in this situation said that phuket immi were a law unto themselves and wanted both.. Even tho thats not the rules. I will see if I can get any exact info but I remember him grumbling as he was all set up for one of them and want for both of them, which way round it was I honestly cant remember. Also why not give them a call.. If you get a good answer you can then go forward on it.. A bad answer and your no worse off. Thanks for the reply. I might call in the office sometime next week, the weather in Phuket is just appalling at the moment. I really don't think telephoning them would produce a satisfactory or clear answer. What I'd really hoped for, was to hear from someone who'd just done their extension and could tell their version of events. I've got until August which is still a long way off, but it's annoying me keeping 400k on deposit earning 0.5% interest. I suppose at the end of the day I'll end up playing safe, same as LivnginKata and show both 400K deposit and 40k/month income #8Posted 2008-05-11 13:06:20
Did mine a few weeks ago.
I did both just to be sure as it was my first extension but the 400k had not been in there for the 3 months and they seemed more interested in the monthly foriegn transfers but who knows. My situation is I work off shore am under 50 married to a Thai. The first guy gave me a flat NO when he asked if I was working in Thailand and when I told him I worked offshore and transfer my money in he referred me to the Captain who ummed and aahhed a lot but once he saw the transfers gave me the "under consideration" stamp and extended this for 2 months becasue I told him I have to go off shore before the initial mmonth was up - very nice of him. I was waiting to see if I get approval for the one year before I posted and gave my experience becasue it was quite an unecessary ordeal but in the end we were all chums and having a bit of a joke. if you want to talk about it off list you can contact me. Cheers. #9Posted 2008-05-11 16:02:49
Thanks for that. Sounds much as I expected. Think I'll just offer the income paperwork, and hold the 400K info in reserve. See how it goes. If the officer insists on the 400K, then I'll just produce that paperwork out of my bag.
I'm not due to renew until December 2008, so if anyone (Geoffphuket ?) has any more experince to add to this topic then please let us all know, thanks. #10Posted 2008-05-11 21:33:40
Thanks for that. Sounds much as I expected. Think I'll just offer the income paperwork, and hold the 400K info in reserve. See how it goes. If the officer insists on the 400K, then I'll just produce that paperwork out of my bag. I'm not due to renew until December 2008, so if anyone (Geoffphuket ?) has any more experince to add to this topic then please let us all know, thanks. I was thinking along exactly the same lines. Of course it won't help us financially this year, but if they don't ask for the bank statement, next year we'll know better ...unless everything has changed again by then I will try to keep this thread updated, but August is a long way off, so I apologise in advance if I forget. geoffphuket #11Posted 2008-05-11 21:46:35
I've got my third extension coming up in June and was told point blank that the 400K in the bank that I used before was useless as this time they want proof of a 40K salary and taxes paid. So I'll let you know how I get on. I spent the 400k on home improvements and could bring in some more from abroad but won't unless I have to.
I really don't appreciate these shifting goalposts. #12Posted 2008-05-13 11:48:46
I have the definitive answer from a good friend of mine.......................
MAYBE, depends on the person you are dealing with #13Posted 2008-05-13 12:40:25
Ok, To answer my own question I called in at the immigration office today and asked to speak to the captain. His reply was that they now want to see 400K bank deposit AND the 40K month income....nothing less than that will be accepted.
I'm just the messenger here, so please don't flame me. If anyone doubts the information they can telephone the immigration office (in Phuket) and ask to speak to the captain themselves. #14Posted 2008-05-13 14:28:16
Ok, that's what I expected. What did they say about the 3 months ? I guess if you ask then they will just say 3 months. Oh well, situation normal, AFU. But other area offices don't insist on this, according to the Immigration Section of Thai Visa. Phuket Immigration a law unto them self.
#15Posted 2008-05-13 17:11:43
Not true about the 40K a month income if you have your own company.
D #16Posted 2008-05-13 17:16:01
Ok, that's what I expected. What did they say about the 3 months ? I guess if you ask then they will just say 3 months. Oh well, situation normal, AFU. But other area offices don't insist on this, according to the Immigration Section of Thai Visa. Phuket Immigration a law unto them self. Sorry, I didn't bother asking about the 3 month rule; I think the emphasis is on the 40k letter of income from the consulate/embassy, and a bank statement showing 400K. Last year they threw away the copies I'd made of my bank book, saying they weren't needed, so they'd no idea how long the money had been there. I'd set my heart on buying a new motorbike this morning, but that's gone out the window for the time being geoffphuket Edited by geoffphuket, 2008-05-13 17:17:29. #17Posted 2008-05-13 18:47:22
Ok, that's what I expected. What did they say about the 3 months ? I guess if you ask then they will just say 3 months. Oh well, situation normal, AFU. But other area offices don't insist on this, according to the Immigration Section of Thai Visa. Phuket Immigration a law unto them self. Sorry, I didn't bother asking about the 3 month rule; I think the emphasis is on the 40k letter of income from the consulate/embassy, and a bank statement showing 400K. Last year they threw away the copies I'd made of my bank book, saying they weren't needed, so they'd no idea how long the money had been there. I'd set my heart on buying a new motorbike this morning, but that's gone out the window for the time being geoffphuket Geoff, You could get a new motorbike though hire purchase for just a small deposit. The monthly payments are very reasonble and since your not aloud to have the registration in your name, anyway you could maybe get it in your wife's name. If you want to sale the bike at a later date I am sure you would not lose to much money. It would work out cheaper than renting one. D. #18Posted 2008-05-13 21:04:50
Ok, that's what I expected. What did they say about the 3 months ? I guess if you ask then they will just say 3 months. Oh well, situation normal, AFU. But other area offices don't insist on this, according to the Immigration Section of Thai Visa. Phuket Immigration a law unto them self. Sorry, I didn't bother asking about the 3 month rule; I think the emphasis is on the 40k letter of income from the consulate/embassy, and a bank statement showing 400K. Last year they threw away the copies I'd made of my bank book, saying they weren't needed, so they'd no idea how long the money had been there. I'd set my heart on buying a new motorbike this morning, but that's gone out the window for the time being geoffphuket Geoff, You could get a new motorbike though hire purchase for just a small deposit. The monthly payments are very reasonble and since your not aloud to have the registration in your name, anyway you could maybe get it in your wife's name. If you want to sale the bike at a later date I am sure you would not lose to much money. It would work out cheaper than renting one. D. It's not a question of finance, more however that I don't like keeping 400K tied up in a bank account earning next to nothing....and by the way, I can have the green registration book in my name; that isn't, and never has been an issue for aliens living in Thailand - have a search for the appropriate thread #19Posted 2008-05-13 22:02:17
Not true about the 40K a month income if you have your own company. D Please explain ?? Theres a big difference between getting the one year extension based on work permit (and then its 55k min monthly salary for the one year extension for most westerners no ???).. And getting the visa based on marriage. Currently country wide all new applicants need 40k proven income between both partners.. If thai they want a tax paid history (makes mia farangs pay tax while Thais dont.. Another nice subtle farang tax) if faramg then it can be Thai tax paid, or certified by your embassy. The rules should be that anyone who previously used the 400k proof of money extension in the past should be grandfathered.. However a few offices dont seem to follow the actual rules.. Phuket seems to want both which is a total bastardisation of the rule.. So explain what the 'own company' comment has to do with marriage visa extensions ?? Edited by LivinLOS, 2008-05-13 22:03:25. #20Posted 2008-05-13 22:11:55
Ok, that's what I expected. What did they say about the 3 months ? I guess if you ask then they will just say 3 months. Oh well, situation normal, AFU. But other area offices don't insist on this, according to the Immigration Section of Thai Visa. Phuket Immigration a law unto them self. Sorry, I didn't bother asking about the 3 month rule; I think the emphasis is on the 40k letter of income from the consulate/embassy, and a bank statement showing 400K. Last year they threw away the copies I'd made of my bank book, saying they weren't needed, so they'd no idea how long the money had been there. I'd set my heart on buying a new motorbike this morning, but that's gone out the window for the time being geoffphuket Geoff, You could get a new motorbike though hire purchase for just a small deposit. The monthly payments are very reasonble and since your not aloud to have the registration in your name, anyway you could maybe get it in your wife's name. If you want to sale the bike at a later date I am sure you would not lose to much money. It would work out cheaper than renting one. D. It's not a question of finance, more however that I don't like keeping 400K tied up in a bank account earning next to nothing....and by the way, I can have the green registration book in my name; that isn't, and never has been an issue for aliens living in Thailand - have a search for the appropriate thread I think you got the wrong end of the stick. Try getting the registered book in your name through finance. Why stay in Thailand if you only got 400K in the bank, then start moaning about a new motorbike that you cant afford? I was merely making a suggesting to a poor guy. E. #21Posted 2008-05-13 22:42:18
[quote name='DEEDEE' post='1979352' date='2008-05-13 22:11:55'][quote name='geoffphuket' post='1979252' date='2008-05-13 22:04:50'][quote name='DEEDEE' post='1979009' date='2008-05-13 18:47:22'][quote name='geoffphuket' post='1978872' date='2008-05-13 18:16:01'][quote name='LivinginKata' post='1978571' date='2008-05-13 14:28:16']Ok, that's what I expected. What did they say about the 3 months ? I guess if you ask then they will just say 3 months. Oh well, situation normal, AFU. But other area offices don't insist on this, according to the Immigration Section of Thai Visa. Phuket Immigration a law unto them self.[/quote]
Sorry, I didn't bother asking about the 3 month rule; I think the emphasis is on the 40k letter of income from the consulate/embassy, and a bank statement showing 400K. Last year they threw away the copies I'd made of my bank book, saying they weren't needed, so they'd no idea how long the money had been there. I'd set my heart on buying a new motorbike this morning, but that's gone out the window for the time being geoffphuket [/quote] Geoff, You could get a new motorbike though hire purchase for just a small deposit. The monthly payments are very reasonble and since your not aloud to have the registration in your name, anyway you could maybe get it in your wife's name. If you want to sale the bike at a later date I am sure you would not lose to much money. It would work out cheaper than renting one. D. [/quote] It's not a question of finance, more however that I don't like keeping 400K tied up in a bank account earning next to nothing....and by the way, I can have the green registration book in my name; that isn't, and never has been an issue for aliens living in Thailand - have a search for the appropriate thread [/quote] I think you got the wrong end of the stick. Try getting the registered book in your name through finance. Why stay in Thailand if you only got 400K in the bank, then start moaning about a new motorbike that you cant afford? I was merely making a suggesting to a poor guy. E. [/quote] Mate, you've no idea what my finances are, so please don't post nonsense...you can keep that for bedlam if you get to 500 posts: rolleyes: #22Posted 2008-05-13 23:01:02
[quote name='geoffphuket' post='1979392' date='2008-05-13 23:42:18'][quote name='DEEDEE' post='1979352' date='2008-05-13 22:11:55'][quote name='geoffphuket' post='1979252' date='2008-05-13 22:04:50'][quote name='DEEDEE' post='1979009' date='2008-05-13 18:47:22'][quote name='geoffphuket' post='1978872' date='2008-05-13 18:16:01'][quote name='LivinginKata' post='1978571' date='2008-05-13 14:28:16']Ok, that's what I expected. What did they say about the 3 months ? I guess if you ask then they will just say 3 months. Oh well, situation normal, AFU. But other area offices don't insist on this, according to the Immigration Section of Thai Visa. Phuket Immigration a law unto them self.[/quote]
Sorry, I didn't bother asking about the 3 month rule; I think the emphasis is on the 40k letter of income from the consulate/embassy, and a bank statement showing 400K. Last year they threw away the copies I'd made of my bank book, saying they weren't needed, so they'd no idea how long the money had been there. I'd set my heart on buying a new motorbike this morning, but that's gone out the window for the time being geoffphuket [/quote] Geoff, You could get a new motorbike though hire purchase for just a small deposit. The monthly payments are very reasonble and since your not aloud to have the registration in your name, anyway you could maybe get it in your wife's name. If you want to sale the bike at a later date I am sure you would not lose to much money. It would work out cheaper than renting one. D. [/quote] It's not a question of finance, more however that I don't like keeping 400K tied up in a bank account earning next to nothing....and by the way, I can have the green registration book in my name; that isn't, and never has been an issue for aliens living in Thailand - have a search for the appropriate thread [/quote] I think you got the wrong end of the stick. Try getting the registered book in your name through finance. Why stay in Thailand if you only got 400K in the bank, then start moaning about a new motorbike that you cant afford? I was merely making a suggesting to a poor guy. E. [/quote] Mate, you've no idea what my finances are, so please don't post nonsense...you can keep that for bedlam if you get to 500 posts: rolleyes: [/quote] Attached Files#24#25Posted 2008-05-14 10:55:21
Don't let DEEDEE (= redted/ted ?? methinks) suck you in. He's just a TROLLer
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