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Posted 2008-08-03 17:55:40
 baanthale, on 2008-07-31 18:10:39, said:
A_Traveller, on 2008-07-31 17:58:23, said: ^^ What it really says is Quote The Chart Thai party said Mr Sarochakrit was no longer a party member, as he had left to join the Democrat party. However, earlier in the article Quote Police arrested Sarochakrit Prom-aksorn, 56, after he slammed his car into the PAD's barricades at Makkhawan Rangsan bridge in Dusit district about 3 am yesterday. The man, who wore a bullet-proof vest, appeared drunk. Three pistols, a shotgun and rounds of ammunition were found hidden in his vehicle. A licence to practise law, a Chart Thai party jacket and a card showing he was a member of the Chart Thai party were also found. Regards
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So he is a member of the democrat party 
Yes, one man one word. 
Posted 2008-08-04 19:38:27
So, we can t amend the constitution? Let's propose a new bill! 
PPP proposes bill to regulate rallies
A group of People Power Party has proposed a bill to authorise the authorities to crack down on demonstrations in public areas if the rallies cause hardship to the public.
The bill is sponsored by Jumpoj Boonyai, a Sakhon Nakhon MP and other People Power MPs.
It is scheduled for deliberation on Wednesday.
Among other things, it will require organisers of rallies to seek approval from the authorities before they organise demonstrations in public areas or use equipment to broadcast the rallies.
The bill also seeks to free the authorities from any legal liability if they break up the demonstrations in public areas. Eager to bash more heads huh...
Organisers of the demonstrations would also be held responsible if any demonstrator violates the law.
The Nation
http://www.nationmul...newsid=30079709
I ll save from posting on this Wednesday and do it now : REJECTED!
Edited by Tony Clifton, 2008-08-04 19:40:24.
Posted 2008-08-05 16:29:33
Tony Clifton, on 2008-08-04 19:38:27, said: a bill to authorise the authorities to crack down on demonstrations in public areas
The bill also seeks to free the authorities from any legal liability if they break up the demonstrations in public areas.
Democracy, PPP-style.
Posted 2008-08-05 17:05:43
Posted 2008-08-05 17:18:59
^ nice one
Posted 2008-08-05 17:50:12
You've got to remember that massage parlor king Chuwit is backing the PAD - he's sent lots of dollars and some da_n fine ho's along too! If Sondhi is going to be locked up again he's going to have some great company!
Posted 2008-08-05 18:08:11
Guess I'll throw a completely unsubstantiated claim up as well and say that Kentucky Fried Chicken seems to be sponsoring UDD. They sent some real chow-hounds to their rallies. Samak, with his tremendous girth, will at least not go hungry when he's jailed.
Edited by sriracha john, 2008-08-05 18:09:45.
Posted 2008-08-05 20:17:28
sunrise07, on 2008-08-05 17:50:12, said: You've got to remember that massage parlor king Chuwit is backing the PAD - he's sent lots of dollars and some da_n fine ho's along too! If Sondhi is going to be locked up again he's going to have some great company!
You should worry more about Pojaman who did just receive a 3 year sentence, same as Samak with a 2 year jail sentence and more coming up and a whole bunch of others lined up for the slammer.
How much do you get paid to post such rubbish?
Posted 2008-08-05 20:21:46
Tony Clifton, on 2008-08-05 20:17:28, said: sunrise07, on 2008-08-05 17:50:12, said: You've got to remember that massage parlor king Chuwit is backing the PAD - he's sent lots of dollars and some da_n fine ho's along too! If Sondhi is going to be locked up again he's going to have some great company!
You should worry more about Pojaman who did just receive a 3 year sentence, same as Samak with a 2 year jail sentence and more coming up and a whole bunch of others lined up for the slammer.
How much do you get paid to post such rubbish?
630 baht per post!
Posted 2008-08-05 20:31:10
sunrise07, on 2008-08-05 22:21:46, said: Tony Clifton, on 2008-08-05 20:17:28, said: sunrise07, on 2008-08-05 17:50:12, said: You've got to remember that massage parlor king Chuwit is backing the PAD - he's sent lots of dollars and some da_n fine ho's along too! If Sondhi is going to be locked up again he's going to have some great company!
You should worry more about Pojaman who did just receive a 3 year sentence, same as Samak with a 2 year jail sentence and more coming up and a whole bunch of others lined up for the slammer.
How much do you get paid to post such rubbish?
630 baht per post!
629 baht too much.
Posted 2008-08-05 20:34:35
jackspratt, on 2008-08-05 20:31:10, said: sunrise07, on 2008-08-05 22:21:46, said: Tony Clifton, on 2008-08-05 20:17:28, said: sunrise07, on 2008-08-05 17:50:12, said: You've got to remember that massage parlor king Chuwit is backing the PAD - he's sent lots of dollars and some da_n fine ho's along too! If Sondhi is going to be locked up again he's going to have some great company!
You should worry more about Pojaman who did just receive a 3 year sentence, same as Samak with a 2 year jail sentence and more coming up and a whole bunch of others lined up for the slammer.
How much do you get paid to post such rubbish?
630 baht per post!
629 baht too much.
628 baht too little.
Posted 2008-08-05 23:47:23
sunrise07, on 2008-08-05 17:50:12, said: You've got to remember that massage parlor king Chuwit is backing the PAD - he's sent lots of dollars and some da_n fine ho's along too!
Disgusting comment, even by your standards.
Posted 2008-08-06 09:21:02
DP25, on 2008-08-06 00:47:23, said: sunrise07, on 2008-08-05 17:50:12, said: You've got to remember that massage parlor king Chuwit is backing the PAD - he's sent lots of dollars and some da_n fine ho's along too!
Disgusting comment, even by your standards.
What evidence is there that he has any?
95% of the time he is trolling.
Edited by jackspratt, 2008-08-06 09:22:45.
Posted 2008-08-06 09:22:01
DP25, on 2008-08-05 23:47:23, said: sunrise07, on 2008-08-05 17:50:12, said: You've got to remember that massage parlor king Chuwit is backing the PAD - he's sent lots of dollars and some da_n fine ho's along too!
Disgusting comment, even by your standards.
Standards, you do mean the consistent sub-standard standard , don't you?.
Cannot understand why people waste their time in responding to such imbecilic remarks. It is possible they feel there is a need to support the ego of the poor unfortunate souls in their ramblings, this of course is counter-productive as it only encourages more of the same.
Posted 2008-08-06 09:51:31
Sunrise spent his 50th birthday posting his wind up barbs on Thaivisa, couldn't stop even for a big day.
He might had legitimate reasons for his bitterness, initally, but by now his obsitnate desire to make a total ass out of himself and annoy shit out of others is entirely self-inflicted.
I'm not sure that ignoring him is going to help him to get out of this cesspit he is drowning himself in, and he NEEDS help.
Anyone?
Good Samaritans?
Jesus?
Posted 2008-08-06 11:19:58
Plus, on 2008-08-06 09:51:31, said: Sunrise spent his 50th birthday posting his wind up barbs on Thaivisa, couldn't stop even for a big day.
He might had legitimate reasons for his bitterness, initally, but by now his obsitnate desire to make a total ass out of himself and annoy shit out of others is entirely self-inflicted.
I'm not sure that ignoring him is going to help him to get out of this cesspit he is drowning himself in, and he NEEDS help.
Anyone?
Good Samaritans?
Jesus?
Don't worry; be happy! Cheers; sorry about your bad day! It'll get better, it always does! 
Any light shed on Samak's desire to have the police stop folks from wearing t-shirts that say "People of Chinese Descent to Save the Country" as reported on page 1 of today's Post would be most appreciated. Why would anti-government protesters wear these shirts?
Posted 2008-08-06 18:52:47
sunrise07, on 2008-08-06 11:19:58, said: Plus, on 2008-08-06 09:51:31, said: Sunrise spent his 50th birthday posting his wind up barbs on Thaivisa, couldn't stop even for a big day.
He might had legitimate reasons for his bitterness, initally, but by now his obsitnate desire to make a total ass out of himself and annoy shit out of others is entirely self-inflicted.
I'm not sure that ignoring him is going to help him to get out of this cesspit he is drowning himself in, and he NEEDS help.
Anyone?
Good Samaritans?
Jesus?
Don't worry; be happy! Cheers; sorry about your bad day! It'll get better, it always does!
Any light shed on Samak's desire to have the police stop folks from wearing t-shirts that say "People of Chinese Descent to Save the Country" as reported on page 1 of today's Post would be most appreciated. Why would anti-government protesters wear these shirts?
The allusion to that slogan begs some serious media investigation. How popular are these shirts? Does the slogan represent the thinking of a sizeable portion of the PAD- or is it just a trumped up 'issue' to portray the PAD as fundamentally rascist? The story suggests that the writer acknowledges the presence of these t-shirts- yet the only time I have heard of a racial tint to the PAD was when Sonthi L claimed that his constituency was primarly the Chinese middle class.
This is a potentially and very dangerous new twist- which will probably- and perhaps reasonably- be taken to mean that those of Chinese descent will save the country- from those of NON-Chinese descent- from, in short- Thais.
Posted 2008-08-06 19:10:08
blaze, on 2008-08-06 18:52:47, said: sunrise07, on 2008-08-06 11:19:58, said: Plus, on 2008-08-06 09:51:31, said: Sunrise spent his 50th birthday posting his wind up barbs on Thaivisa, couldn't stop even for a big day.
He might had legitimate reasons for his bitterness, initally, but by now his obsitnate desire to make a total ass out of himself and annoy shit out of others is entirely self-inflicted.
I'm not sure that ignoring him is going to help him to get out of this cesspit he is drowning himself in, and he NEEDS help.
Anyone?
Good Samaritans?
Jesus?
Don't worry; be happy! Cheers; sorry about your bad day! It'll get better, it always does!
Any light shed on Samak's desire to have the police stop folks from wearing t-shirts that say "People of Chinese Descent to Save the Country" as reported on page 1 of today's Post would be most appreciated. Why would anti-government protesters wear these shirts?
The allusion to that slogan begs some serious media investigation. How popular are these shirts? Does the slogan represent the thinking of a sizeable portion of the PAD- or is it just a trumped up 'issue' to portray the PAD as fundamentally rascist? The story suggests that the writer acknowledges the presence of these t-shirts- yet the only time I have heard of a racial tint to the PAD was when Sonthi L claimed that his constituency was primarly the Chinese middle class.
This is a potentially and very dangerous new twist- which will probably- and perhaps reasonably- be taken to mean that those of Chinese descent will save the country- from those of NON-Chinese descent- from, in short- Thais.
It would only be a dangerous new twist if anyone other than Sonthi was saying it. You have to consider the source. Ask any Thai if they are Thai and they will tell you they are Thai. It doesn't matter where their ancestors came from, they are Thai.
Posted 2008-08-06 20:11:45
Don't forget that Thaksin, PAD's main enemy, is of Chinese descent himself.
I doubt anyone would make an issue out of it, either pro- or anti-government.
Posted 2008-08-07 09:37:09
The PAD have shown again and again what an embarrassment they are. They are a desperate bunch of mainly paid to attend protesters jumping on any small issue that they can find thesedays. I feel sorry for the PAD supporters on this forum, all they have left is to make fun of other members… so sad……
Edited by Los78, 2008-08-07 09:38:17.
Posted 2008-08-07 10:24:37
Los78, on 2008-08-07 09:37:09, said: The PAD have shown again and again what an embarrassment they are. They are a desperate bunch of mainly paid to attend protesters jumping on any small issue that they can find thesedays. I feel sorry for the PAD supporters on this forum, all they have left is to make fun of other members… so sad……
... and the Prime Minister ...
... and the ongoing court sagas ....
... and the proposed Stalinist changes to the constitution ...
I like the way you chose a bigger font though - it's making me think twice about clicking "Pos
Posted 2008-08-07 10:33:28
Opposition grows to 'dictatorial' plan to curb street protests
A government bid to curb street protests came under fire yesterday when political activists, the parliamentary opposition, and even the head of a House Sub-committee within the constitutional amendment panel criticised the attempts at limiting political liberties.
Meanwhile, chief government whip Samart Kaewmeechai insisted that the imminent charter changes would not affect "problematic issues". Any proposed amendments involving those clauses would be postponed, he added. He said the government whips yesterday did not discuss the idea of amending the Constitution's Article 63.
A network of civic groups yesterday issued a statement opposing a government proposal to amend Article 63 on grounds that the curbing of street protests will infringe on basic rights.
"The proposed amendment goes against democratic principles and will become a tool to suppress the government's opponents," the network said.
The network includes the Coordinating Committee for Non-governmental Organisations, the Alternative Farming Network of Thailand, the Non-formal Labour Network and the Four-Region Slum Network.
Meanwhile, a sub-committee on rights, liberties and public participation within the House committee on constitutional amendments has agreed that there are no reasons to alter Article 63 of the charter, which guarantees an individual's freedom to assemble peacefully without weapons.
Gothom Arya, the Sub-committee's Chairman, said yesterday his panel found no obstacles to enforcement of the clause. "Initially, we see the clause should not be amended. But this matter will eventually rest with the committee," he said.
Gothom, who was part of the National Human Rights Commission, voiced opposition to a draft law on street protests proposed by People Power Party MP Jumpot Boonyai.
Opposition leader Abhisit Vejjajiva yesterday called on the ruling party to make it clear there would be no constitutional amendments over the upcoming "period of reconciliation" proposed by the government.
He said the plan for charter changes would only worsen tensions between opposing groups and revive distrust.
The government has come up with a project of "116 days of reconciliation from Mother's Day to Father's Day", which runs from Her Majesty's birthday on August 12 to His Majesty's birthday on December 5.
Suthep Thaugsuban, secretary-general of the Democrat Party, said yesterday that the Democrats were opposed to the proposed law to deal with street protests, which he said was aimed at the People's Alliance for Democracy. The PAD is holding an anti-government rally that is entering its third month.
The new-law motion was not moved up the agenda at yesterday's House of Representatives meeting. MP Jumpot said on Tuesday that he was pushing for the draft bill to be made the first subject of deliberation when the House met yesterday.
Former prime minister General Suchinda Kraprayoon yesterday voiced support for Prime Minister Samak Sundaravej's idea of amending Article 63 to allow authorities to better deal with street protests. "I don't agree with a constitution that allows protests which affect the rights and liberties of other people," he said.
Labour activist Wilaiwan Sae Tia said yesterday that the political situation would plunge into trouble if the government tried to curtail street protests, adding that the government had no justification to amend the charter or to push for a draft bill to regulate street protests.
First, the idea of curbing street protests is undemocratic, she said.
Second, the street protests, if regulated, will lead to discrimination against the minority living on the fringe of society. Third, it would be irregular for an elected House to debate a dictatorial draft. Fourth, the bill was previously rejected by the coup-appointed National Legislative Assembly. Fifth, the idea of regulating street protests is in clear violation of Article 63 and any attempts to amend this provision will cause a setback for democracy.
- The Nation
Posted 2008-08-07 11:21:26
... and the Prime Minister ...
... and the ongoing court sagas ....
... and the proposed Stalinist changes to the constitution ...
I like the way you chose a bigger font though - it's making me think twice about clicking "Pos
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Stalinist Changes?????..... I think you forget the a illegal Military Junta that took over and put in their own changes..... I dont see how a democratically elected government is Stalinist.. Please explain??? Go and read your history books on Stalin. You obviously have no idea what Stalinist is... The PAD's ideas are closer to Stalinist if you have been following their ideas. I am all for a change to the constitution as it was messed up by illegal Military henchmen. It will only make Thailand more stable. If you look at any other democracy they would of cleared the bridge long time ago so I see nothing wrong with the changes. People will still have the right to protest anyway just not how it is now.
Edited by Los78, 2008-08-07 11:24:24.
Posted 2008-08-07 11:32:24
Los78, on 2008-08-07 11:21:26, said: Quote
... and the Prime Minister ...
... and the ongoing court sagas ....
... and the proposed Stalinist changes to the constitution ...
I like the way you chose a bigger font though - it's making me think twice about clicking "Pos
Stalinist Changes?????..... I think you forget the a illegal Military Junta that took over and put in their own changes..... I dont see how a democratically elected government is Stalinist.. Please explain??? Go and read your history books on Stalin. You obviously have no idea what Stalinist is... The PAD's ideas are closer to Stalinist if you have been following their ideas. I am all for a change to the constitution as it was messed up by illegal Military henchmen. It will only make Thailand more stable. If you look at any other democracy they would of cleared the bridge long time ago so I see nothing wrong with the changes. People will still have the right to protest anyway just not how it is now.
Yeah, it's a winner of a change. If you want to protest against the government you've got to get permission from the
government first. Would love to see the approval process for that one. Is that seriously the governments best defense to an ongoing, non-violent protest against them?
Posted 2008-08-07 11:33:43
EDITORIAL
A direct threat to basic rights
Whether this is merely a tactic to divert the attention of its opponents from the main issues of contention, the government's latest attempt to rein in street protests by amending Article 63 of the Constitution, represents a direct threat to the basic right of free expression through peaceful public gatherings. It is totally unjustified, unnecessary, and provocative.
- Bangkok Post
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