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[neverdie]

A shocking story and situation.  Soihok, my thoughts are with you and your family.  Theres absolutely no doubt about it, this is Amazing Thailand at its worse.

[WaatWang]

soihok, on 2009-10-28 21:54:56, said:

So there are 5 families that are to pay around 200,000 baht each or go to prison.
Four families have agreed, one has offered 7,000 baht for some reason,,maybe like prison or something.

Soihok,
My sincere condolances to you and your family.  What a tragic end to a life, and needless suffering for those who survived.

To put a price on a life - how can it be done?  Perhaps the perpetrators will find greater remorse in putting their families through the shame of the trial, and having to sell off properties to come up with BHT 200,000, than actually serving jail time (since it sounds like that will not be happening).  I think best possible outcome of these events at this point is for them to be changed for the better, and never do something like this to anyone else in the future.

I am glad your wife's family was able to get a laywer to bring about some form of 'justice'.

Kind regards,
WaatWang

[soihok]

Thanks for your comments.

The reason I first started this thread was to establish who the Murder(s) is( are).

A lot has moved on since as the posts dictate.

Nothing will bring the boy back, he was cremated a long time ago. The situation of his Mum was that she was looking to him to help his family crawl through and out of dire poverty, Father fled the family scene many years ago, so Mum was working and looking after a 8 year old girl as well as Grandpa,,,but thats another story.

So from looking for the Murderer, this post has generated into an account of what lies in store of anyone seeking justice in Thailand.

I have come to accept that everything in Thailand has its price, justice takes a back seat.....so here we are.....settling on a price of the life of a teenage boy....which in this case is about the price of a second hand Toyota .

Thanks are down to the mother in law,, and a helping hand from me....I am family afterall.
The poor boys mothers dwelling does,nt even have a toilet and the young girl is now approaching her teens.

So she had no chance of making a challenge against the local Police, justice....bah....

This is not my country, saying that I have no wish to go back to England....I,ld rather stay in Thailand and take my/our chance.
Says a lot for England eh?

Anyway.......thanks for the comments and its a real eye opener for me.......things are never the way they may seem .
Funny old game.

I will keep posting the saga as it continues, and belive me ,,,,it will continue.

Edited by soihok, 2009-11-08 03:26:25.

[Loz]

Sorry for you Loss. Thanks for the updates. Good to have a picture of what is real rather than percieved.

[OzMick]

Reminds me of a lady friend, from Khorat yet, who's brother was murdered in a drunken brawl in BKK. It never actually got to court, the police negotiated a settlement of ฿1000/month for 100 months, less 10% commission for the BIB. If payments were not made on 1st of each month, BIB would chase up, and if no result, charges would be laid.
Seemed rather venal to me, but lass explained that figure was a reflection of how much money lad would have sent his mother each month, and would have been higher if he was a high income earner. Why 100 months??? She was upset over loss of brother, but considered it a fair outcome. Not sure if figure would have increased if killer was wealthy; are the rich allowed to murder the peasants and pay peanuts in compensation? What happens if someone re-offends? can you be a rich serial killer?
On the positive side, the boy was dead and nothing was going to change that, and Mum gets a better (marginally) life than if the offender went to jail. Kill one of mine and try buying your way out. Or can my ex-wife settle without my input? Probably. Strange place, thailand

[Arkady]

My brother-in-law's best friend was murdered in a drive by fun shooting walking along a Bangkok street in broad daylight by some one who didn't even know him but wanted to show off to his friends.  The killer was arrested immediately but turned out to be a local policeman's son, so he has never spent a night in jail and the police have shelved the case.  This happened three years ago and the boy's family has not even been offered any blood money.  The police told the boy's father that he would end up like his son, if he didn't stop causing a nuisance by asking what was happening with the case.

[soihok]

Very tragic and rings the same as my famlies loss.
Police did not want to know also , the family took the case above the local police, who are now being brought into court.
If you go back a few pages of this thread, there is advice for what the family could( have been done, but as its 3 years since the crime took place......sadly there is not much chance of a stand now) have followed.

Strange place it is,,,,Thailand.

[warmwater7]

MJP, on 2009-07-02 04:11:04, said:

OP, I do hope your family find justice and some kind of closure. Very sad.

Regarding some of the other posters arguments regarding serious crime statistics between Thailand and the UK.

http://www.nationmas...ders-per-capita

Thailand is currently No. 14 in the world for murders per capita with 0.08 murders per 1000.  The UK is No. 46 with 0.014 per 1000.

As a reference, the US is No. 24 with 0.042 per 1000.

I make neither comment or judgement on these statistics.

CHANCES GO UP 100% FROM LOS ANGELES TO BKK. WHAT IS FUELING THIS?  WHAT IS DRIVING THE DISCONTENT? I MEAN, TIMES ARE REALLY TOUGH NOW IN L.A.,  RANDOM STREET CRIME IS REALLY LOW.GANGS ARE QUIET.SOUTH,AND EAST.

POSSIBLY THE ECONOMY? ,POLITICS?-LEADERSHIP. HOW IS THE KINGS HEALTH?( I HOPE HE IS OK.)  ...............THIS BEHAVIOR WOULD BE SYMPTOMATIC.  WHAT RATIO OF EXPATS,TOURISTS, TO NATIONALS?

[soihok]

A bit of a criptic post mate..
I have no idea what is going on in LA and dont give diddley sh*t either.
Niether do the people of Thailand, if you dont belive me, go ahead and ask the next Thai person you meet.

Edited by soihok, 2009-11-09 01:28:55.

[callum06]

Any up dates??

[soihok]

Not at the moment.....its a case of waiting for the compensation to appear.
Its about money at this point, the fact that the murderers are know,  found to be guilty and the situation holds no issue about actually being tried for killing someone is slightly scarey.
I,ll post when something of an outcome is acheived, but it may will take some time.

[callum06]

soihok, on 2010-01-04 11:50:21, said:

Not at the moment.....its a case of waiting for the compensation to appear.
Its about money at this point, the fact that the murderers are know,  found to be guilty and the situation holds no issue about actually being tried for killing someone is slightly scarey.
I,ll post when something of an outcome is acheived, but it may will take some time.

Crazy that they can just continue their lives without the slightest thought for the person they murdered And what about these kids parents?? They are just as bad as their kids. I hope your family do recieve the compensation, not the result you wanted BUT they still have to pay and hopefully suffer while doing it.

Cheers for the up date.


Callum06

[Svenn]

callum06, on 2010-01-04 14:23:54, said:

Crazy that they can just continue their lives without the slightest thought for the person they murdered

I've heard there are generally two types of violent criminals- those that commit their acts in rage but then regret it for the rest of their days, realizing what they've done, and those that appear to have an intrinsic incapacity for any type of empathy, and go about unfazed.  I hope the murderer in this case was the former, as young people often are; but if he was the latter, I would not prevent him from being 'taken care of' by any extralegal resources the victim's family may procure...

My sympathies