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#51 Lithobid

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Posted 2009-03-21 10:44:01

View Postbunnaag, on 2009-02-08 18:56:33, said:

When do you continue with the notes?


Good question! I have stopped studying intensive Thai at Payap, because, I've been hired as an English teacher there. I've also reached a point of study, where I can go on my own, and consult teachers here and there with grammar questions. I will try to keep posting grammar constructions in this forum, though perhaps, we need to change the name of the forum. I highly encourage, all of you other wonderful posters out there, to add to the Grammar here. Perhaps this could becom the "Grammar forum" where different constructs can be discussed. Thanks to all, good luck with your studies.

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#52 Morien

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Posted 2009-03-24 13:09:44

Hey,

how do people rate Payap?
I'm looking to study Thai in Chiangmai and am looking for the best place to learn.
I'm aiming for fluency in speaking, reading, and writing, maybe even sitting for the grade 6 exam.

I'm not after a quick fix, and am looking to put in the hours, but I am looking for the most efficient course available; quality is more important than the cost.

Thanks
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Posted 2009-03-25 08:07:36

View PostMorien, on 2009-03-24 13:09:44, said:

Hey,

how do people rate Payap?
I'm looking to study Thai in Chiangmai and am looking for the best place to learn.
I'm aiming for fluency in speaking, reading, and writing, maybe even sitting for the grade 6 exam.

I'm not after a quick fix, and am looking to put in the hours, but I am looking for the most efficient course available; quality is more important than the cost.

Thanks
Morien



Hi Morien,

Payap is a great place to start, they'll get you going with reading and writing. To get to the grade 6 level takes a lot of work, I don't study at Payap anymore, because they don't have a level high enough for me, but I'm still miles away from passing the P6 exam. I think that after 6-7 months with Payap you will be able to self-study, for another year or so, and then look at taking some university courses in Thai. I've also heard that Chiang Mai university has an advanced 1 year program for Diplomats, but I don't know much about it.

Cheers
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Posted 2009-03-25 20:51:29

Thanks for that Lithobid.

Hmm. Yeah, Payap is sounding more interesting to me now.
Do you know much about it in comparison to some of the other courses on offer? Say Corner Stone?

How would you rank their curriculum?

Perhaps I should start a new thread to ask this..

Thanks a lot
Morien

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Posted 2009-03-30 18:55:22

View PostMorien, on 2009-03-25 20:51:29, said:

Thanks for that Lithobid.

Hmm. Yeah, Payap is sounding more interesting to me now.
Do you know much about it in comparison to some of the other courses on offer? Say Corner Stone?

How would you rank their curriculum?

Perhaps I should start a new thread to ask this..

Thanks a lot
Morien


Well, I don't know other schools, but to rank Payap I would have to say that it's wonderful in giving you extra help. If you were lost during a class, they always go the extra mile to help you understand (IF YOU ASK THEM!!!!@!) I only say that because I've seen student after student walk out of a class disappointed, but do they even approach the teacher (NO!). Payap was so gracious to me that after studying Thai for 7 months with them they didn't have a regular curriculum course for me because I was at a higher level and the head of the Thai Language department, taught me for free for two months! They are great people at Payap, the key is, getting into the right level course, and if it’s lower than your level, they will hammer you with writing and reading. If it’s higher, you can be more like a mouse and just enjoy.





For all others that read this who have never taken a language course. In every class, you will always have multiple level’s of students; some good at reading, some at writing, and some at speaking. I strongly recommend surveying Payap to see if it is the right course/style/environment for you.



When it all comes down to me, I always find that it’s “how much time can I put into it” that is the main factor. At Payap, you can be a 3-4 hour a day (self-study ) commitment, or just a 3 hour class, that was fun commitment. It’s up to you.



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Posted 2009-04-02 00:05:48

Hi Lithobid, is there a set of minimum criteria to meet (e.g. degree) before I can take this course? Btw, I have some basic knowledge on Thai. If the ajahns level test me and find me suitable for another level, do I have to wait a month or two for the next class to start? Thanks.

Edited by yeows, 2009-04-02 00:11:07.


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Posted 2009-04-02 16:58:35

View Postyeows, on 2009-04-02 00:05:48, said:

Hi Lithobid, is there a set of minimum criteria to meet (e.g. degree) before I can take this course? Btw, I have some basic knowledge on Thai. If the ajahns level test me and find me suitable for another level, do I have to wait a month or two for the next class to start? Thanks.


Lol are you kidding! TIT They'll test you and take your money whenever you're ready...lol


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Posted 2009-04-02 22:40:44

Thanks fo the reply, Lithobid. I was worried as their website shows they do not have two adjacent courses starting at the same time and the requirement that the minimum number of students be met before they start.

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Posted 2009-04-06 08:20:42

View Postyeows, on 2009-04-02 22:40:44, said:

Thanks fo the reply, Lithobid. I was worried as their website shows they do not have two adjacent courses starting at the same time and the requirement that the minimum number of students be met before they start.


#60 Lithobid

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Posted 2009-04-06 08:20:42

View Postyeows, on 2009-04-02 22:40:44, said:

Thanks fo the reply, Lithobid. I was worried as their website shows they do not have two adjacent courses starting at the same time and the requirement that the minimum number of students be met before they start.

That's their usual protocol, but now I think they're desperate for students, so should be no problem to jump right in, though you may have to wait until the end of the month to start at the "begining" of a level.

Cheers
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Edited by Lithobid, 2009-04-06 08:21:48.


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Posted 2009-06-09 13:39:38

Hi Lithobid!
I've just found your forum posts about your studying and class notes at Payap. Excellent stuff!
I am also thinking about studying there in the near future, and now I'm looking for some feedback from previous students, to help me with my decision.
how was your experience studying in the intensive Thai program?
do you feel it progressed your Thai language ability effectively?
thanks in advance for any feedback!
Cheers!
Bo

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Posted 2009-07-05 20:35:40

Hi Lithboid

Thanks for sharing your notes and experiences at Payap. I notice they've got eight levels; out of curiosity, what level did you start at and at what level did you exit the course?

Thanks, again.

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Posted 2009-12-11 17:54:42

View Postmangkorn, on 2008-09-12 01:21:39, said:

Lithobid: it is very generous of you to share your lessons with others like this. :)

All the best to you in your studies.


Far too advanced. I did conversational Thai and when they suggested I learn to read I left. 70+ letters? What's all that about?

An effective way in is what's needed.

Thanks for trying - but no thanks.

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Posted 2010-10-02 08:26:57

View Postbrasseye, on 2009-12-11 17:54:42, said:

View Postmangkorn, on 2008-09-12 01:21:39, said:

Lithobid: it is very generous of you to share your lessons with others like this. :)

All the best to you in your studies.


Far too advanced. I did conversational Thai and when they suggested I learn to read I left. 70+ letters? What's all that about?

An effective way in is what's needed.

Thanks for trying - but no thanks.
I think it is time to breath some life back into this thread. I will talk to the Arjans at Payap and see if they can post daily to this thread. It does seem helpful.

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Posted 2011-04-14 23:37:14

North = เหนือ, not ตะวันเหนือ
South = ใต้, not ตะวันใต้
East = ตะวันออก (sunrise)
West = ตะวันตก (sunset)


Since ตะวัน = sun
The sun doesn't go from north to south or whatever.


Does this make any sense to you?
Or someone has already corrected...



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Posted 2011-07-01 13:48:12

Excellent post :D. I am new here and want to join this topic. I am Vietnamese, but I really enjoy learning Thai.
Btw, I think ทันที is nearer to the meaning "immediately" than "suddenly". For example, go out at once: ออกไปทันที

Anyone here is in favor of Thai Lakorn (ละคร), a good way of learning to speak and listen to Thai. My Thai language has improved a lot owing to this method.

Edited by Duyen, 2011-07-01 14:00:26.


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Posted 2011-07-01 14:17:05

View PostCSS, on 2008-07-07 22:40:39, said:

View PostLithobid, on 2008-07-07 17:44:19, said:

A special thanks to Meadish for pinning this thread, and editing. I try to keep it as neat as possible but that's the side effect of learning. http://ic.payap.ac.th/certificate/thai/about.php This is the URL for Payap's current schedule, tuition fees, and contact #'s. I started this thread in part to peak interest, because I think they have a great program worth every penny. I know when I was searching for a school, it was hard to come by good 1st hand info, so please if you have any questions about the University or the Thai Studies program, don't hesitate to ask.

Cheers Lithobid :D

Giving Directions (Part :o

I've separated the directions into two sections, part A for giving directions to a place, and part B is more for describing where a place is, in relation.



Notice how กับ (with) is used in most of these words.


In class I noted the unusual dictionary definition for เยื้องกับ, I think a better translation for common usage would be "up, down the street from". David I'm sure you have advise here? :D

เยื้องกับ – Diagonally Opposite
ระหว่าง – Between
ติดกับ – Next to
ตรงข้ามกับ – Across from
ใกล้กับ – Close to
อยู่บนถนน "___" – On "____" road.

อยู่ในซอย – On the street (Notice how we use บน for road, and ใน for ซอย)


ทางไป – On the way to


อยู่บนถนนทางไป – On the street on the way to…(this is good to use if you don't know the name of the street, but you do know where it goes ex.)


อยู่บนถนนทางไปเชียงใหม่ - (on the road on the way to Chiang Mai)


Example Sentences

I've attached a map to this post. Let's start with the
City Hospital (โรงพยาบาลเมือง).

โรงพยาบาลเมืองอยู่ใหน?

(Where is the City Hospital?)

โรงพยาบาลติดกับมหาวิทยาลัยเมืองและเยื้องกับศาลากลางบนถนนMadison Ave. กับ 3rd Street.

(The City Hospital is next to the University, and down the street from the City hall, on Madison Ave. and 3rd Street.)

Now take a look at the map, and try describing a location to your friend!

I've been in the habit of putting a อยู่ before all the location placement words in your sentences. Do they teach it without the อยู่?
e.g. (โรงพยาบาล
อยู่ติดกับมหาวิทยาลัยเมืองและเยื้องกับศาลากลางบนถนน Writing it out again I see that I would actually use the อยู่ before the first one but not repeat it for a second phrase in the same sentence. What do they say about the use of อยู่ in sentences like that?


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Posted 2011-07-01 14:17:40

View PostCSS, on 2008-07-07 22:40:39, said:

View PostLithobid, on 2008-07-07 17:44:19, said:

A special thanks to Meadish for pinning this thread, and editing. I try to keep it as neat as possible but that's the side effect of learning. http://ic.payap.ac.th/certificate/thai/about.php This is the URL for Payap's current schedule, tuition fees, and contact #'s. I started this thread in part to peak interest, because I think they have a great program worth every penny. I know when I was searching for a school, it was hard to come by good 1st hand info, so please if you have any questions about the University or the Thai Studies program, don't hesitate to ask.

Cheers Lithobid :D

Giving Directions (Part :o

I've separated the directions into two sections, part A for giving directions to a place, and part B is more for describing where a place is, in relation.



Notice how กับ (with) is used in most of these words.


In class I noted the unusual dictionary definition for เยื้องกับ, I think a better translation for common usage would be "up, down the street from". David I'm sure you have advise here? :D

เยื้องกับ – Diagonally Opposite
ระหว่าง – Between
ติดกับ – Next to
ตรงข้ามกับ – Across from
ใกล้กับ – Close to
อยู่บนถนน "___" – On "____" road.

อยู่ในซอย – On the street (Notice how we use บน for road, and ใน for ซอย)


ทางไป – On the way to


อยู่บนถนนทางไป – On the street on the way to…(this is good to use if you don't know the name of the street, but you do know where it goes ex.)


อยู่บนถนนทางไปเชียงใหม่ - (on the road on the way to Chiang Mai)


Example Sentences

I've attached a map to this post. Let's start with the
City Hospital (โรงพยาบาลเมือง).

โรงพยาบาลเมืองอยู่ใหน?

(Where is the City Hospital?)

โรงพยาบาลติดกับมหาวิทยาลัยเมืองและเยื้องกับศาลากลางบนถนนMadison Ave. กับ 3rd Street.

(The City Hospital is next to the University, and down the street from the City hall, on Madison Ave. and 3rd Street.)

Now take a look at the map, and try describing a location to your friend!

I've been in the habit of putting a อยู่ before all the location placement words in your sentences. Do they teach it without the อยู่?
e.g. (โรงพยาบาล
อยู่ติดกับมหาวิทยาลัยเมืองและเยื้องกับศาลากลางบนถนน Writing it out again I see that I would actually use the อยู่ before the first one but not repeat it for a second phrase in the same sentence. What do they say about the use of อยู่ in sentences like that?




 


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