Posted 2008-12-21 12:50:24
 Ricardo, on 2008-12-21 11:58:07, said:
samgrowth, on 2008-12-19 09:53:04, said: It is not the Issan farmers got cheated. It is the Thai tax payer that got cheated. I don't know the exact amount, but my guess is that it should be more than what Samak pocketed from the cooking show. LOL TIT
I disagree, since the rubber-trees which were/would-have-been supplied were sub-standard, it was indeed the Isaan-farmers who were being cheated. All in the best interests of TRT the country the people ! 
Actually both are correct as I stated above.
The Taxpayers financed this, but the farmers get cheated TWICE.
Once as a taxed citizen and once as a farmer.
Even if the farmer makes so little he isn't directly taxed,
he still gets indirect taxation, in loss of service for lack of money.
Posted 2008-12-21 22:01:16
sriracha john, on 2008-11-10 07:57:13, said: on trial for alleged irregularities relating to the procurement of 90 million rubber saplings. The accused are charged with collusion in illegal bidding on the state's 1.44 Billion-Baht rubber sapling distribution contract and for abusing the Farmers' Rehabilitation Fund. animatic, on 2008-12-21 11:29:22, said: permanent_disorder, on 2008-12-19 01:54:32, said: But you know how much money it was at the rubber saplings and that mostly Isaan farmers got cheated?
How about
Quote Bt90-milllion rubber sapling distribution project.
divided by 65 mill Thais.
EACH living Thai lost 1.4 baht + or -
except for those in the loop to big profits,
and those were NOT the poor Issan farmers...
BUT this was lost more to those who grow the saplings that were found poor.
And that means farmers bear a disproportionate load.
Sorry to throw a monkey wrench into your maths, but you need to divide 1.44 Billion Baht, not 90 million, by 65 million. The updated article erroneous said 90 million baht. That should have been 90 million saplings... for 1.44 Billion Baht was the money amount.
Edited by sriracha john, 2008-12-21 22:05:59.
Posted 2008-12-21 22:32:21
OK
22.15 baht
charged to every living Thai person to finance this
tree program that was not giving out good trees.
Who got most of the money???
Seems like they stole the lunch of every Thai person on the same day.
Edited by animatic, 2008-12-21 22:34:03.
Posted 2008-12-23 17:16:03
animatic, on 2008-12-21 23:32:21, said: OK
22.15 baht
charged to every living Thai person to finance this
tree program that was not giving out good trees.
Who got most of the money???
Seems like they stole the lunch of every Thai person on the same day.
The tree was bought from CP (ring a bell? non MP minister?)
The project was headed by Newin (ring a bell? TRT banned #x and Apbisit allies)
Posted 2009-03-04 00:47:05
Supreme Court to start witness investigation in rubber plant corruption case tomorrow
The Supreme Court’s Criminal Division for Political Office Holders will start the first interrogation of the accuser’s witness in 90 Million rubber plant corruption case worth 1.44 Billion Baht tomorrow (Mar 4).
Lawyer of defendants in the rubber plant corruption case, Nopphadon Lowthong, said that the Supreme Court’s Criminal Division for Political Office Holders had made an appointment to interrogate the accuser's witnesses in this case at 9.30am.
Before the interrogation starts, the 44 defendants would send their representatives to deliver their opening statement to judges, while the Farmers’ Assistance Measure and Policy Committee would send government officials to make statements.
The National Counter Corruption Commission (NCCC), as the accuser, had prepared 25 witnesses for interrogation in 6 appointments, while the defendants had prepared 92 witnesses in 18 appointments. However witness interrogation is allowed to proceed without the 44 defendants attending.
- ThaiNews / 2009-03-03
Posted 2009-03-04 07:03:05
sriracha john, on 2009-03-04 00:47:05, said:
Supreme Court to start witness investigation in rubber plant corruption case tomorrow
...
- ThaiNews / 2009-03-03
does that photo appear together with the quoted News report on it's original source?
Posted 2009-03-04 09:33:07
samgrowth, on 2008-12-23 17:16:03, said: animatic, on 2008-12-21 23:32:21, said: OK
22.15 baht
charged to every living Thai person to finance this
tree program that was not giving out good trees.
Who got most of the money???
Seems like they stole the lunch of every Thai person on the same day.
The tree was bought from CP (ring a bell? non MP minister?)
The project was headed by Newin (ring a bell? TRT banned #x and Apbisit allies)
Ah but that was when CP and Newin could be counted in the TRT column.
Today I heard the UN were considering not moving forward on human rights and war crimes charges on the leader of Sudan if they came on board with the west. Amazing what swapping sides can lead to in real politik. Still it remains to be seen in the Thai case if they will be as politcally accomodating as in the UN case. However, in politcs deal sget struck. But deals dont get struck with everyone.
Posted 2009-03-04 18:58:27
Court Begins Hearing on Rubber Sapling Fraud
The first prosecution witnesses in the corruption trial involving the controversial purchase of 90 million rubber saplings by the Thaksin government took the stand at the Supreme Court today.
Former member of the now-defunct Assets Examination Committee Banjerd Singkhanati testified as a witness for the plaintiff, the National Counter Corruption Commission, before the court for the controversial purchase of 90 million rubber saplings by the Thaksin government.
The commission has lodged corruption charges against 44 people allegedly involved in the 1.4 billion-baht procurement of 90 million rubber saplings initiated by the government of former prime minister Thaksin Shinawatra.
Among those indicted are former Deputy Prime Minister Somkid Jatusriphithak, former Deputy Finance Minister Warathep Rattanakorn, and former Deputy Agriculture Minister Newin Chidchob.
Somkid also served as Chairman of the Farmer Assistance Committee.
The accused are charged with malfeasance and violating laws regarding the bidding process for state agencies.
Newin attended the hearing today, but did not testify or give interviews. The defendants are not required to be in court during the proceedings.
The court has scheduled six hearings to hear testimony from 25 witnesses for the prosecution, and 18 hearings to hear the testimony of 92 witnesses for the defendants. The first defense witnesses are scheduled to be called on May 12.
- TOC / 2009-03-04
Posted 2009-03-13 15:04:01
slapout, on 2008-08-06 15:35:08, said: The fat lady may not be singing yet but she is most certainly humming the lyrics to the song.
Maybe she's getting ready to serve her time for her conviction as well.
Posted 2009-05-12 16:54:52
Newin testifies in rubber sapling case
Newin Chidchob Tuesday testified in his defence that in the capacity of the then deputy agriculture minister, he was not involved in the funding of the rubber sapling project linked to irregularities, although he conceived the project as a handout for farmers in the Northeast.
The Nation - Thailand's English news - 3 minutes ago
http://rds.yahoo.com...er-sapling-case
Posted 2009-05-13 07:01:15
Newin admits sapling support
Newin Chidchob has admitted initiating the controversial, 1.44 billion baht rubber saplings project at the centre of a criminal trial, when Deputy Agriculture Minister in the Thaksin Shinawatra administration.
Newin yesterday testified before the Supreme Court's Criminal Division for Holders of Political Positions that he tabled the purchase proposal for the saplings at a Cabinet meeting, the details of which came under close scrutiny.
He is one of 44 people accused of involvement in irregularities relating to the Agriculture Ministry's purchase of 90 million rubber saplings for 1.44 billion baht between 2004 and 2006.
Continued:
-- Bangkok Post 2009-05-13
Posted 2009-05-13 07:18:17
Doesn't it appear that
Newin is actually IN COURT and being questioned about this Thaksin era case,
in spite of being a back ground leader of a current government coalition?
Doesn't look like his alleged 'good connections and influence' in the current government,
has quashed this court date, as many red side punters tried to claim would happen.
He is currently in the dock, under voidire, and not getting softball questions so far.
Edited by animatic, 2009-05-13 07:19:52.
Posted 2009-05-13 07:58:45
animatic, on 2008-09-24 01:15:24, said: slapout, on 2008-08-06 15:35:08, said: The fat lady may not be singing yet but she is most certainly humming the lyrics to the song.
Oh they have Karl Orff composing her a Caramina Burana big time finale with extra tympany
and Heronimous Bosch as set designer. Because when all this crashes down on them all in the end,
it will seem like the 7th ring of hel_l, with extra agony choir ,singing their fuzzy butts off to
a long term personal engagement at the Bangkok Hilton.
Like rats from a sinking ship running Cambodian casinos may seem a good thing.
what you talking about?
Posted 2009-05-14 06:13:25
Lets keep all Thaksin related criminal charges here:
Arrest Warrants Issued For 14 Red Shirt Leaders And Thaksin
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