Posted 2009-11-24 20:42:56
 Nacho, on 2009-11-24 18:55:58, said:
You are right about OPITO not being accepted throughout the entire world, but I can't imagine a course being heald in Thailand mainly for Thai's not being recognized in the Gulf of Thailand, especially when They have a TPTI office on site. From what I understand TPTI is the Thai legislative body for offshore training. Maybe there will be a restriction on the card. I will clarify tomorrow when I finish the course.
On TPTI..yes a goverment legislative body...but they dont set the rules per se..the operating company does..ie PTTEP is 3 years validity, Chervron's is 2 years and for Pearl Oil..I have no idea..
I wouldnt get to worried about an OPITO approved training course with a 4 year validity not being allowed in the Gulf of Thailand, was just pointing technically it wouldnt comply with the operators rules, not that they wouldnt give a concession for someone who had one.
Personally I guess as the indutry matures in Thailand there will eventually be one set of rules for everyone..
The only location where OPITO is fully recognised and mandated by all operators is the North sea.
Posted 2009-11-24 21:01:46
KarenBravo, on 2009-11-24 19:31:30, said: Just a quick word on offshore medical certificates (UKOOA).
Used to be under 40 years of age valid for 3 years.
Between 40 and 50 years of age valid for 2 years.
Over 50 years of age valid for 1 year.
UKOOA saw no correlation between age and health so it was changed about two years ago so that all ages now have a standard 2 year validity.
And of course UKOOA approved affiliates make more money as well, by introducing a standard 2 year validity..or is this just me being cynical... 
I personally have no time for all the regulatory bodies combined with the bodyshops operating in the North Sea, as my impression is all a big rip off, extorting cash from people who can least afford it...ie people looking for work.
Typical example:
Somebody approaches a bodyshop looking for work offshore in the North Sea
Bodyshop...you have to have BOSIET/Greenhands etc etc otherwise you will not get a job...go and pay for training yourself and you will get a job easy...
Said person attends training school recommended by the bodyshop and coughs up a few thousand pound to complete this training, thinking they will recoup this money from their first hitch offshore.
Said person returns to bodyshop with bright and shiny BOSIET/Greenhands/etc certificate in hand...
Bodyshop " Work is a bit thin at the moment" contact us again in 6 months...
So to me, its a scam....
What a lot of people dont know is as part of their T&C's with their client the bodyshop is charging the client for training/PPE etc...therefore if a bodyshop can get somebody to pay for their own training, the bodyshop is pocketing that portion of the rate and some poor bast*rd who can least afford it is carrying the can.
Posted 2009-12-02 14:43:29
Does the Falco Nutec place do HUET training. If not, is there anywhere in Thailand that has OPITO approved Huet.
Posted 2009-12-05 08:56:15
i did one in Kuala lumpur at MAS training (Malaysia Airline)center thbey send me there even i was woring in Thailand
Posted 2009-12-05 08:57:25
needforspeed, on 2009-12-05 09:56:15, said: i did one in Kuala lumpur at MAS training (Malaysia Airline)center they send me there even i was working in Thailand
Posted 2010-01-14 17:21:45
sweetchariot, on 2008-08-19 19:27:13, said: I was looking to do one here, but couldn't find any OPITO approved training centres in Thailand. I am going to Johor, Malaysia next month to do it.
You can get direct flights BKK to Johor for about 6k return with Air Asia, still waiting for them to confirm the course price, but I believe it's about 20k.
you don't have to leave Thailand to do the full survival or refresher the school is in Songklah south Thailand if you ring mogit they will give you the phone number. the school used to belong to mogit but chevron now run it and i can tell you it is opito approved.
Posted 2010-01-14 17:26:34
needforspeed, on 2009-12-05 08:57:25, said: needforspeed, on 2009-12-05 09:56:15, said: i did one in Kuala lumpur at MAS training (Malaysia Airline)center they send me there even i was working in Thailand
you don't have to leave Thailand to do the opito courses the school is in Songklah south Thailand it opito approved.it used to belong to mogit but chevron took it over and it is now opito approved.
Posted 2010-01-14 20:16:10
whiteelephant, on 2010-01-14 18:26:34, said: needforspeed, on 2009-12-05 08:57:25, said: needforspeed, on 2009-12-05 09:56:15, said: i did one in Kuala lumpur at MAS training (Malaysia Airline)center they send me there even i was working in Thailand
you don't have to leave Thailand to do the opito courses the school is in Songklah south Thailand it opito approved.it used to belong to mogit but chevron took it over and it is now opito approved.
Are you talking about Seetapat ?....if so its not opito approved either
Posted 2010-01-15 09:25:16
needforspeed, on 2009-12-05 08:57:25, said: needforspeed, on 2009-12-05 09:56:15, said: i did one in Kuala lumpur at MAS training (Malaysia Airline)center they send me there even i was working in Thailand
the name of the school; for opito courses is xxx also the guys e-mail address is xxx
Posted 2010-01-15 09:31:38
Disting, on 2009-12-02 14:43:29, said: Does the Falco Nutec place do HUET training. If not, is there anywhere in Thailand that has OPITO approved Huet.
yes the school is in Songklah south Thailand,
Posted 2010-01-21 16:25:46
whiteelephant, on 2010-01-15 09:31:38, said: Disting, on 2009-12-02 14:43:29, said: Does the Falco Nutec place do HUET training. If not, is there anywhere in Thailand that has OPITO approved Huet.
yes the school is in Songklah south Thailand,
I know Settapat is run by Chevron, but dont think they offer courses to the "outside world", this is set up for Chevron/Chevron affiliated personnel only, and still stand by my original statement thats its not OPITO certifed. It may conduct the training in accordance with OPITO standards, but may not OPITO accredited...training in accordance with and being accredited to are not the same thing
Posted 2010-07-06 17:46:54
Hi Guys, ,,,, I know this is an old post but just to update, it appears there is a Falck Nutec centre in BKK beside the Airport, looking into doing my BOISET refresher there, they sent me course information which says it is OPITO approved,, and the course is accepted by OLF but not OLF approved
the centre is located in Samutprakarn
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Posted 2010-11-28 10:33:02
jonnyscot, on 2010-07-06 17:46:54, said:
Hi Guys, ,,,, I know this is an old post but just to update, it appears there is a Falck Nutec centre in BKK beside the Airport, looking into doing my BOISET refresher there, they sent me course information which says it is OPITO approved,, and the course is accepted by OLF but not OLF approved
the centre is located in Samutprakarn
Hi jonnyscot,
many thanks for including the attachement - its useful to see the course content - this is going to be helpful for a lot of people who need to do that course.
Posted 2011-01-03 10:40:27
this sure is an old post, but a lot of interesting info. for local expat and for person who are starting out. very useful!!!! but it's 2011 now and i think most of the place mention in Thailand is up to international standard (read corse description before you sign up for those class) but some of these class are ment for Thai operator only, cant operated in other water. i think we are better off going to Malay or Singapor for training. this meet northsea and US standard.
i could used some advice from expat working in SEA, specifically in Thailand, Malay, and the surround water. i want to change my profession and brake into O&G and will get things ready before summer of 2011 arrive. i do know that getting work in Thailand is almost impossible for farang. I am also an Farang (US), but i have thai citizenship. ( i have dual citizenship) I was born and raised in Pattaya Beach, went to school/ collage in California. Graduated with a BS in Facility Engineer from California Maritime Academy. and been working shoreside for the past 5 year. I did enjoy sailing, but i have other obligation plus there were obsitcal i dont want to mess with. so i chagne my major from Marine Engineer to Facility engineer. I discover O&G after i finish school and working in Texas for LPG company.
anyway, I'm about to take a leap of faith and try my luck in O&G in SEA. i already research out the minimum requirement i need to have to work in oilfield/ offshore in USA. And....the standard here is much higher, plus i have to deal with U.S.Coast Guard regulation/ Home Land Security/ Department of Transportation. so i think SEA (Thailand) would not be impossible for green horn like me to get into. I speak /read/write thai language, i have thai citizenship and i have BS degree, i think i have things in my favor. But there is always the unknown and uncertainty in O&G business. so i am here seeking advice from a seasons expat working or have worked in SEA / around the world. your knowledge of the business and experiance working can shade some light to this green horn
but why SEA? there is job in USA and GOM..... I figure that i will be starting from Zero where ever i go., but i think i have the edge if i work in thailand. I just need a few year under my belt and i can work for anyone/anywhere. if offshore does not work out, onshore or other facility in Rayong or Chonburi can be a back up if things did not go thru/ did not work out. i got back up plans and more back up plans. ( i been planing this for the past 2 year, just waiting for the right timing) i even set up a small bike repair shop in Pattaya. I specially in Harley and Chopper. feel free to contact me if you need service. I charge less than most repair shop you visit in thailand. gurantee or free repair ( how many time you got rip off at repair shop?)
anyway, the reason i'm doing this is because i am fed-up with the USA and want to get the hell out of here. most of you know exactly what i'm talking about. dont want to deal with bunch of BS anymore. Beside, my current job is a dead end.......,
it 's a well paid job ($90K+) with excellent benefit and 7 week paid vacation per year! 4 year contract gurantee 40 hr work week ( union job) ! yeah, i'm stupid for even thinking of throwing all that away. but it is what it is, you guys been there before, that is why you guys left home and went offshore. i'm a single guy and about to turn 33 next month. i figure i still got some life in me and i'm gonna take a leap of faith and go offshore.
the problem is, there is soo many types of job out there and i know i can do any of them, they just need to trane me and invest in me. I was thinking drill/well service or maybe well log or maybe offshore construction. later on, i have no problem getting well control certificate - supervisor level. but experiance is much more important than certificate. so i drop well control school and stick with basic training. what do you guys see with me picking job in these field? advice? possible future job? cross training?
i sorry if i ramble a bit. some time it's good to vent it out. any and all advice are welcome.( both positive and negative). i will continue to monitor this posting and see if anyone post any new info. i thank you for your time and hope to be working with some of you out there on the rig in 2011. best wish to all for 2011
Posted 2011-01-03 11:28:40
Hi Jerry
Just did my refresh in BKK, that school is Falck Nutec, even got OLF so its really up to world standard there
Have a look.
http://www.falcknutec.co.th/
refresh is 28.000 Baht
full course is around 36.000
Posted 2011-01-03 12:40:40
jerryb78, on 2011-01-03 10:40:27, said:
this sure is an old post, but a lot of interesting info. for local expat and for person who are starting out. very useful!!!! but it's 2011 now and i think most of the place mention in Thailand is up to international standard (read corse description before you sign up for those class) but some of these class are ment for Thai operator only, cant operated in other water. i think we are better off going to Malay or Singapor for training. this meet northsea and US standard.
i could used some advice from expat working in SEA, specifically in Thailand, Malay, and the surround water. i want to change my profession and brake into O&G and will get things ready before summer of 2011 arrive. i do know that getting work in Thailand is almost impossible for farang. I am also an Farang (US), but i have thai citizenship. ( i have dual citizenship) I was born and raised in Pattaya Beach, went to school/ collage in California. Graduated with a BS in Facility Engineer from California Maritime Academy. and been working shoreside for the past 5 year. I did enjoy sailing, but i have other obligation plus there were obsitcal i dont want to mess with. so i chagne my major from Marine Engineer to Facility engineer. I discover O&G after i finish school and working in Texas for LPG company.
anyway, I'm about to take a leap of faith and try my luck in O&G in SEA. i already research out the minimum requirement i need to have to work in oilfield/ offshore in USA. And....the standard here is much higher, plus i have to deal with U.S.Coast Guard regulation/ Home Land Security/ Department of Transportation. so i think SEA (Thailand) would not be impossible for green horn like me to get into. I speak /read/write thai language, i have thai citizenship and i have BS degree, i think i have things in my favor. But there is always the unknown and uncertainty in O&G business. so i am here seeking advice from a seasons expat working or have worked in SEA / around the world. your knowledge of the business and experiance working can shade some light to this green horn
but why SEA? there is job in USA and GOM..... I figure that i will be starting from Zero where ever i go., but i think i have the edge if i work in thailand. I just need a few year under my belt and i can work for anyone/anywhere. if offshore does not work out, onshore or other facility in Rayong or Chonburi can be a back up if things did not go thru/ did not work out. i got back up plans and more back up plans. ( i been planing this for the past 2 year, just waiting for the right timing) i even set up a small bike repair shop in Pattaya. I specially in Harley and Chopper. feel free to contact me if you need service. I charge less than most repair shop you visit in thailand. gurantee or free repair ( how many time you got rip off at repair shop?)
anyway, the reason i'm doing this is because i am fed-up with the USA and want to get the hell out of here. most of you know exactly what i'm talking about. dont want to deal with bunch of BS anymore. Beside, my current job is a dead end.......,
it 's a well paid job ($90K+) with excellent benefit and 7 week paid vacation per year! 4 year contract gurantee 40 hr work week ( union job) ! yeah, i'm stupid for even thinking of throwing all that away. but it is what it is, you guys been there before, that is why you guys left home and went offshore. i'm a single guy and about to turn 33 next month. i figure i still got some life in me and i'm gonna take a leap of faith and go offshore.
the problem is, there is soo many types of job out there and i know i can do any of them, they just need to trane me and invest in me. I was thinking drill/well service or maybe well log or maybe offshore construction. later on, i have no problem getting well control certificate - supervisor level. but experiance is much more important than certificate. so i drop well control school and stick with basic training. what do you guys see with me picking job in these field? advice? possible future job? cross training?
i sorry if i ramble a bit. some time it's good to vent it out. any and all advice are welcome.( both positive and negative). i will continue to monitor this posting and see if anyone post any new info. i thank you for your time and hope to be working with some of you out there on the rig in 2011. best wish to all for 2011
Your best bet is to apply directly to the operating companies, seeing as you are Thai...  and have a western education and appear to have some related experience....ie apply directly to Chevron/ PTTEP or possibly Pearl Oil in Thailand, if you manage to get your foot in the door with either Chevron or PTTEP, you will have cracked it, certainly as it seems you are prepared to work offshore
If based in Thailand as a Thai national you will not be getting paid as an expat, but would suggest a few years in Thailand and then apply internally for the expat game, if you try and apply the other way as an "expat" you will not get a look in, the doors are just about shut now for expats in the Gulf of Thailand.
hope this helps
Soutie
Posted 2011-01-03 13:24:20
I think right now isn't an easy time for working in the Oil and Gas industry Thai or Farang..
I've a farang buddy who got about 3-4 trips offshore last year, with months without work (feast and famine).
It's not too bad if you are 'on-the-books' but if you are freelance it's a lot harder until an upturn.
Posted 2011-01-03 13:30:19
JimsKnight, on 2011-01-03 13:24:20, said:
I think right now isn't an easy time for working in the Oil and Gas industry Thai or Farang..
I've a farang buddy who got about 3-4 trips offshore last year, with months without work (feast and famine).
It's not too bad if you are 'on-the-books' but if you are freelance it's a lot harder until an upturn.
What I do know is there are some quiet big projects which will be starting in 2011 for this area of SEA, Thailand, Vietnam and related locations.... and will go on for a number of years yet.....roll on $100/barrel.... 
Posted 2011-01-03 15:44:11
Soutpeel, on 2011-01-03 13:30:19, said:
JimsKnight, on 2011-01-03 13:24:20, said:
I think right now isn't an easy time for working in the Oil and Gas industry Thai or Farang..
I've a farang buddy who got about 3-4 trips offshore last year, with months without work (feast and famine).
It's not too bad if you are 'on-the-books' but if you are freelance it's a lot harder until an upturn.
What I do know is there are some quiet big projects which will be starting in 2011 for this area of SEA, Thailand, Vietnam and related locations.... and will go on for a number of years yet.....roll on $100/barrel....
130 US$ was very good 
Posted 2011-01-03 15:52:49
HDRIDER, on 2011-01-03 15:44:11, said:
Soutpeel, on 2011-01-03 13:30:19, said:
JimsKnight, on 2011-01-03 13:24:20, said:
I think right now isn't an easy time for working in the Oil and Gas industry Thai or Farang..
I've a farang buddy who got about 3-4 trips offshore last year, with months without work (feast and famine).
It's not too bad if you are 'on-the-books' but if you are freelance it's a lot harder until an upturn.
What I do know is there are some quiet big projects which will be starting in 2011 for this area of SEA, Thailand, Vietnam and related locations.... and will go on for a number of years yet.....roll on $100/barrel....
130 US$ was very good
$130/140 was never going to be sustainable .....would be good if it was, but think $100 is going to be the number and if gets there happy days for a good few years yet......hopefully long enough to get my Aston Martin...
Posted 2011-01-03 16:43:14
Soutpeel, on 2009-11-24 20:42:56, said:
Nacho, on 2009-11-24 18:55:58, said: You are right about OPITO not being accepted throughout the entire world, but I can't imagine a course being heald in Thailand mainly for Thai's not being recognized in the Gulf of Thailand, especially when They have a TPTI office on site. From what I understand TPTI is the Thai legislative body for offshore training. Maybe there will be a restriction on the card. I will clarify tomorrow when I finish the course.
On TPTI..yes a goverment legislative body...but they dont set the rules per se..the operating company does..ie PTTEP is 3 years validity, Chervron's is 2 years and for Pearl Oil..I have no idea..
I wouldnt get to worried about an OPITO approved training course with a 4 year validity not being allowed in the Gulf of Thailand, was just pointing technically it wouldnt comply with the operators rules, not that they wouldnt give a concession for someone who had one.
Personally I guess as the indutry matures in Thailand there will eventually be one set of rules for everyone..
The only location where OPITO is fully recognised and mandated by all operators is the North sea.
Just a point of interest, my OPITO BOSIET turned 3 years old in November and we were due to do a job for PTTEP in the Gulf in December. They insisted that I would need to do a refresher, and organised for the BOST at MOGIT (PTTEP were going to pay for this so I didn't complain - too much).
I was then at the OSEA exhibition in Singapore in November and met with the OPITO guys who had a stand there. I relayed my story to them and they were so insensed that they contacted PTTEP directly, and subsequently I didn't need to do the refresher.
I think PTTEP only have experience with the local BOST and not OPITO BOSIET, so if anyone else is in the same position just tell them to speak to OPITO direct.
Posted 2011-01-03 17:07:16
HDRIDER, on 2011-01-03 11:28:40, said:
Hi Jerry
Just did my refresh in BKK, that school is Falck Nutec, even got OLF so its really up to world standard there
Have a look.
http://www.falcknutec.co.th/
refresh is 28.000 Baht
full course is around 36.000
Thanks for the heads up. Refresher due next year. Just for info I did my last BOSIET OPITO in the Philippines (CTSI) just outside Manila. I ended up having to do the full 3 days due to being out of date and holding the MOGIT ticket only which was only OPITO accredited but worked for me in Thailand and was payed for by the company. Have to say that when I did the one in the Philippines it was great value for US$600 including food & accomodation on training camp plus 1 night hotel accom in Manila on arrival. Not sure of the current pricing but it is another option if you fancy a wee break over there.
Posted 2011-01-03 17:34:15
QED, on 2011-01-03 16:43:14, said:
Soutpeel, on 2009-11-24 20:42:56, said:
Nacho, on 2009-11-24 18:55:58, said: You are right about OPITO not being accepted throughout the entire world, but I can't imagine a course being heald in Thailand mainly for Thai's not being recognized in the Gulf of Thailand, especially when They have a TPTI office on site. From what I understand TPTI is the Thai legislative body for offshore training. Maybe there will be a restriction on the card. I will clarify tomorrow when I finish the course.
On TPTI..yes a goverment legislative body...but they dont set the rules per se..the operating company does..ie PTTEP is 3 years validity, Chervron's is 2 years and for Pearl Oil..I have no idea..
I wouldnt get to worried about an OPITO approved training course with a 4 year validity not being allowed in the Gulf of Thailand, was just pointing technically it wouldnt comply with the operators rules, not that they wouldnt give a concession for someone who had one.
Personally I guess as the indutry matures in Thailand there will eventually be one set of rules for everyone..
The only location where OPITO is fully recognised and mandated by all operators is the North sea.
Just a point of interest, my OPITO BOSIET turned 3 years old in November and we were due to do a job for PTTEP in the Gulf in December. They insisted that I would need to do a refresher, and organised for the BOST at MOGIT (PTTEP were going to pay for this so I didn't complain - too much).
I was then at the OSEA exhibition in Singapore in November and met with the OPITO guys who had a stand there. I relayed my story to them and they were so insensed that they contacted PTTEP directly, and subsequently I didn't need to do the refresher.
I think PTTEP only have experience with the local BOST and not OPITO BOSIET, so if anyone else is in the same position just tell them to speak to OPITO direct.
Hi
More and more companies only want 3 years, Esso and Shell have asked me refresh after 3 years even if its 4 year you get on the paper
Posted 2011-01-03 17:36:05
QED, on 2011-01-03 16:43:14, said:
Just a point of interest, my OPITO BOSIET turned 3 years old in November and we were due to do a job for PTTEP in the Gulf in December. They insisted that I would need to do a refresher, and organised for the BOST at MOGIT (PTTEP were going to pay for this so I didn't complain - too much).
I was then at the OSEA exhibition in Singapore in November and met with the OPITO guys who had a stand there. I relayed my story to them and they were so insensed that they contacted PTTEP directly, and subsequently I didn't need to do the refresher.
I think PTTEP only have experience with the local BOST and not OPITO BOSIET, so if anyone else is in the same position just tell them to speak to OPITO direct.
The OPITO Mafia have no right to get incensed about anything, its the operators rules that govern, not what OPITO says, if PTTEP says your ID card will be "n*pple pink to get offshore, thats what it will be....its their concession not OPITO's and they have no "jurstidiction" talking to an operator.....quite suprised PTTEP guys didnt tell to f*kc off
Posted 2011-01-04 03:04:06
Well said Sout, I had a good run during the $130 boom. If there's more to come in 2011 I'll look forward to that. I've got to get my medical renewed soon so maybe I'll rolle back to Sattahip once more...
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