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#26 Axel

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Posted 2004-11-23 11:51:09

No fun at all, especially not when you are outside.
Had a couple of real monsters while in Hong kong, indoor, you think you are
safe, until the windows blow out, despite of plywood covering.

21st floor shaking rhythmically back and forth, the pictures on the wall as well.
In the harbour a huge container vessel dragged backwards, despite of two anchor chains and slammed into the ferry pier. So I heard later, as you cannot see
much except leaves flying by.

No fun, but for the thafun-parties going on all over town. :o

Good luck to all.

#27 george

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Posted 2004-11-23 12:32:28

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The Typhoon is moving quite slow, so it might not reach Thailand until Thursday or Friday.

#28 Khun Jean

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Posted 2004-11-23 12:33:08

If you look at the maps in the beginning of this thread you can see that the green line representing the path and strength of the storm has changed a little since yesterday.
It moved a tiny bit to the north of samui, but more worrying is the change of color to yellow. That means no longer a Tropical Storm but a typhoon.
Keep watching it.

The top map is a warning what can happen. You can see the path started with light blue, meaning a tropical depression. As it got closer to the philipines it changed to a typhoon categorie 4. Same can happen here because the storm is gong to travel over warm water all the way from ietnam to here. Warm water will strenghten the storm. It will hit thailand but still uncertain where because it is still 60-70 hours away.
I look outside my window and it is a beatiful day with a lite breeze. Perfect weather but it might be the silence before the storm.

Thai people are completely unaware of it. I saw some on the news that it will hit Surathani, but "don't worry too much because it is not a strong one".

Sounds a bit like "There is no bird flu".

Anyway the thai people i know i have warned and they are concerned and covering up there windows. Some nearby fisherman in shabby huts will be amongst the least prepared. Unfurtunately there is a small village right at the beach (Hua Thanon) which if the predictions are right will be hit very hard.

I am now in doubt if i should help them, but how to help them. There muslims so asking a temple seems to be "inappropiate".
Or am i wrong? Anybody know some numbers to call, people to speak?

#29 simey

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Posted 2004-11-23 12:34:03

Well, I'm up in the hills so should be safe enough but some of the glass in my doors is a bit loose, might tape that up soon. A few more falang accidents on mopeds coming up I would think.

Khun Jean - are you going to be OK down there close to the water?

#30 Khun Jean

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Posted 2004-11-23 12:59:39

No i don't think i am safe here close to the water.
But not wanting to worry you, are the hills safer?
Or more susceptible for wind, thunder and rain.
Valleys should be avoided i think. If a landslide occurs that is not the place to be.
Same where i am it is right at the beach. Furtunately no big mountains behing me, so a landslide will be unlikely. The water from the sea worries me.

It is a bit hard to find good information about the better places to be when a typhoon hits. Most suggest to evacuate or sit it out in a center room of your house. If it is strong enough of course.

I will be leaving the island tonight, if there are still tickets available and do a surprise visit to my parents in law in Bangkok.
I have 2 small children which makes me decide to not wait for this, even a 10% risk is enough for me to avoid it. If i did not have vhildren i would sit it out somewhere on higher grounds.

Well i did my part trying to warn peple, also here locally, but taking it a little step further and warn some "officials" i have to leave that to my wife as i not speak thai enough. As she is Thai she also has this "oh it will be ok" attitude so it will not be easy to get her doing that.
This feeling of her is because i read it on the "internet" and she sees it on "tv". We both prefer our news sources and i feel mine is better, as the news on tv just mention it like it is a thing not to worry about.

#31 fatter than harry

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Posted 2004-11-23 13:50:44

Dammmit I take one bloody holiday in 3 years and a typhoon decides to meet me there, I'm going to Samui anyway, let me know if anyone wants me to check on their cats.

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Posted 2004-11-23 15:13:13

Let me give you the benefit of my 16 years experience living in the islands. Every year a typhoon (or several) hits the Phillipines, passes over Vietnam and comes into the Gulf. It usually looks like it is heading straight here but only once (1989) has it actually come this far south. Normally, the winds push the typhoon up to Prachuap. My husband has lived on this island his entire life (he is 36) and remembers one direct hit, when he was 5.

Now, where I live the reef is quite far out; with Typhoon Gay the reef protected us from the ocean, the tide was out quite far, although waves still came over the reef. The winds were quite high, but much higher on Koh Tao which is only 60km north. Every boat that had come into Koh Tao to ride out the storm sank while only one sank here. We had no damage to our house but then we have no coconuts around it.

Now, I am not saying that it will miss us again, I am just saying that the Thai people perhaps have a bit more experience with this than you do and realize that panic does little, and that, short of leaving, there is little you can do. Me, I am staying. I live right on the beach and am personally not afraid. Maybe I am foolish but, like I said, I went through Typhoon Gay and have a good idea what's in store IF it even comes this way.

#33 Zoltan

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Posted 2004-11-23 15:28:16

Time will tell... If its like the Carribean things have been getting worse the last few years

#34 Boh Bpen Yang

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Posted 2004-11-23 15:58:46

Wow the timing huh? Right on Loy Krathong :o

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Posted 2004-11-23 18:08:28

This thing looks like a tropical storm or depression. Doesn't look like a typhoon at this stage. If you're getting worried head off to a solid building somewhere and don't risk walking around the street amongst the flying sheets of corrugated iron and other dangerous debris. As the PM says: "No problem."

#36 lopburi3

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Posted 2004-11-23 18:40:44

Let me give you the benefit of my 16 years experience living in the islands. Every year a typhoon (or several) hits the Phillipines, passes over Vietnam and comes into the Gulf. It usually looks like it is heading straight here but only once (1989) has it actually come this far south. Normally, the winds push the typhoon up to Prachuap. My husband has lived on this island his entire life (he is 36) and remembers one direct hit, when he was 5.

Now, where I live the reef is quite far out; with Typhoon Gay the reef protected us from the ocean, the tide was out quite far, although waves still came over the reef. The winds were quite high, but much higher on Koh Tao which is only 60km north. Every boat that had come into Koh Tao to ride out the storm sank while only one sank here. We had no damage to our house but then we have no coconuts around it.

Now, I am not saying that it will miss us again, I am just saying that the Thai people perhaps have a bit more experience with this than you do and realize that panic does little, and that, short of leaving, there is little you can do. Me, I am staying. I live right on the beach and am personally not afraid. Maybe I am foolish but, like I said, I went through Typhoon Gay and have a good idea what's in store IF it even comes this way.

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You also know the damage Gay did to people who never expected the force it had. This seems to be only a Cat 1 storm when it hits (if it hits) you at about noon Friday but I would not count on it moving north as there is a strong cold front extending through Bangkok now that is most likely going to keep it on a due West path. I would be making sure I had enough supplies in a safe location to last a few days at least. FYI: my home was in Homestead, FL when Andrew hit so I know what can happen in a strong one. Had many in the PI in the four years I lived there. The fact is that few Thai have any experience with wind from typhoons as almost all cross Vietnam/Cambodia and spend themselves before hitting Thailand with heavy rain.

#37 surfercaesar

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Posted 2004-11-23 19:16:10

HI gUYS,

i'M HERE IN mANILA RIGHT NOW SO DO be cautious of this typhoon it created a lot of damage and flush floods here in the Philippines.

It can pick up strenght when it gets there thru warm waters hopefully alll will be well but I've texed my wife to get ready. You all have 72 hours.

Good luck to all who lives by Phuket and Samui. :o

#38 Kan Win

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Posted 2004-11-23 19:26:25

Wow the timing huh?  Right on Loy Krathong :D

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Looks to me that BKK, Kan and all down south of Thailand will have a washed out Loy Krathong then. :o

What a damper. :wub:

Qus.. Is this good or bad luck for Thailand if it rains during Loy Krathong ?? and you are in the rain ?? trying to float your Krathong ?? :D

Kan Win -_- :D :(

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Posted 2004-11-23 21:35:38

I'm in Thailand (Bangkok, then Chang Mai) next Wednesday: do I need to be worried?

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Posted 2004-11-24 01:30:51

Update:
Thais warned of powerful typhoon


BANGKOK: -- The government has warned Thai people of a powerful typhoon which is expected to strike the country's southern region over the next couple of days.

The government has warned that the Mui Fa Typhoon is highly likely to hit the country's southern provinces, particularly Chumphon and Surat Thaini, later this week.

The Mui Fa Typhoon is believed to be as powerful as the Gay Typhoon, which devastated many provinces in the South of the country several years ago.

The new typhoon is also expected to affect areas in Thailand's central and northeastern regions widely.

"Thai people, especially those in the South, should, therefore, be well prepared for the Mui Fa Typhoon; while state officials are on high alert to assist people and areas affected by the typhoon", the government said in a statement released to TNA today.

--TNA 2004-11-23

#41 lopburi3

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Posted 2004-11-24 15:31:51

As of 1 PM, 24 Nov Thai time the Typhoon is about 1 degree South of the plot show on post here and should hit between Surat Thani and Nakhon Si Thammarat in about 36 hours with max winds of 60 knots and gusts to 75 knots. This is prediction from Weather Underground

Thai TV has been giving coverage today but it is expected to be much less severe than Gay was - flooding is expected however.

Did not notice anything in Bangkok Post. :o

#42 taxexile

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Posted 2004-11-24 15:35:14

...................Did not notice anything in Bangkok Post..........................

dont worry lop , nobody ever notices anything in the bangkok post !

#43 Axel

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Posted 2004-11-24 15:36:50

Vietnam newspapers announced landfall south of Saigon for today.
Since 3:00 pm heavy rain here in Saigon.

Hope, the strength will be broken after hitting land.

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Posted 2004-11-24 15:51:55

It appears to be almost completely south of most of Vietnam on the present course of 8.7 degrees so don't expect land will kill it.

The Bangkok Post used (several decades ago) to be a really good newspaper and year after year hope it will return to that category. :o

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Posted 2004-11-24 16:18:31

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Edited by taxexile, 2004-11-24 17:03:45.


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Posted 2004-11-25 02:51:14

Hmmmm, just looked at the Weather here disc jockeys. I see here they say waves max 16 feet high!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

That is damno near to a Tusanami, or Tidal Wave. Always have a hard time spelling that one word.

Now lets see 16 feet. Imagine two people standing one on top of another and both are 6 feet and a half tall. This wave tops their heads my friends.

By the way trust me on this much. That wave itself has loads of POWER behind it. It will push your tushie faster than a surf board. Don't play games with a WAVE that tall.


Small example, say your in the water waist high and a small wave comes on you. Repeat small wave. Did you ever notice how it pushes you towards the shore????????????? Usually those waves are gentle.

Well, a 16 footer will not be gentle. That son of a gun is going to crush you.

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Posted 2004-11-25 05:36:25

[quote]Hmmmm, just looked at the Weather here disc jockeys. I see here they say waves max 16 feet high!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

That is damno near to a Tusanami, or Tidal Wave. Always have a hard time spelling that one word.

Now lets see 16 feet. Imagine two people standing one on top of another and both are 6 feet and a half tall. This wave tops their heads my friends.

By the way trust me on this much. That wave itself has loads of POWER behind it. It will push your tushie faster than a surf board. Don't play games with a WAVE that tall.


Small example, say your in the water waist high and a small wave comes on you. Repeat small wave. Did you ever notice how it pushes you towards the shore????????????? Usually those waves are gentle.

Well, a 16 footer will not be gentle. That son of a gun is going to crush you.

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Dave come on man get a grip!
A 16 foot wave may well be considered a Tsunami if it occurred in your neck of the woods(which is about 1000 miles from the nearest sea), but I can assure you that a 16 foot-5 meter wave is perfectly normal in the open ocean.
Waves like that are the norm in the North Sea and wouldnt make any fisherman or rig worker run for cover.

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Posted 2004-11-25 08:56:21

Transcript from radiobangkok.net:

Tropical storm Muifa is expected to hit the gulf of Thailand today.

Many fear the storm may bring as much havoc as Typhon gay in 1989,
which killed over five hundred people. The approaching storm has
stranded hundreds on ko Tao as small ferries have been reluctant to
brave the swells to Surat Thani.

Officials have set up emergency centers in Chumphon. Forecasters say the storm is moving at about ninety miles per hour.

The governor has ordered all government agencies to have rescue equipment and vehicles on a 24-hour standby. Coastal districts have banned fishing boats and other types of vessels from sailing, until they know the storm has passed.

--Radio Bangkok 2004-11-25

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Posted 2004-11-25 08:57:56

Rush to help tourists stranded on Koh Tao

SURAT THANI, Nov 24 (TNA) Local officials on Koh Tao off the coast of Thailand's southern province of Surat Thani today rushed to the assistance of over 3,000 tourists stranded on the island by heavy seas.

The last batch of tourists was shipped off the island this afternoon in a boat with a capacity of 200.

High waves of up to five metres mean that the small vessels normally used to transport tourists to and from the island have been forced to remain on shore.

--TNA 2004-11-25

#50 sbk

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Posted 2004-11-25 09:08:27

Looks to be headed to the deep south from the tracking map. According to Thai TV the main force of it will hit Pattani, Songkhla etc. We are starting to get clouds and rain, a bit of wind. It will still be a nasty storm but I am glad to not be in the eye of it! They evacuated tourists from Koh Tao mainly because they worry about running out of food. This happens every year, typhoon or not.

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