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[MrWiggle]

Anybody know what type of shop generally sells the molasses here and whats its thai name ?

[jandtaa]

Hi mr wiggle

if you read through this thread you'll find a post with the info you're after.

cheers for now J

[RPCVguy]

jandtaa, on 2009-02-27 10:46:13, said:

APNAN Effective Micro-organisms handbook

have a gander at this PDF its password protected so I cannot upload it to my usual site. I reckon this is as good a document as you can find for information on EM and it was produced as a joint project between Japan (where EM originated) and Thailand (where it is being put into action at the Saraburi farm toxin free farm further info on saraburi farm) so it is country specific as it were. Loads of recipes and methodology for using EM in a variety of senarios including making Bokashi, insecticides, crop production, orchards, animal rearing and mushroom growing. I've also just got round to uploading another bunch of docs here jandtaa's farming related documents including some other info on EM. I recommend checking out the "Indigineous micro-organisms" doc, this is the method and recipes I have been brewing up for the last couple of years !! I've also uploaded a recipe for galingal spray.So have a good read and get brewing lads and lasses !!!

Lets get rid of those nasty 'cides cheers Jandtaa

Thanks Jandtaa. As often the case, much more information than can be quickly absorbed. My wife's land is only a small plot about 22m x 20m, and our house takes up a chunk of that. We started from landfill only 14 months ago and then added raised beds using cinder block walls and hundreds of bags of brahma manure last January. Still the difference in the soil vitality is amazing in this first year alone. All the kitchen peelings and green manure gets mixed back in. So too are added hulls from soy-bean and straw from a rice paddi from her cousin - used first as mulch. Anyway, we live as an extended family (including access by a sister and 3 brothers families) out of these plots for our greens. Family supplies us with our fruits (though we've added plenty of papaya - mostly as a scattered canopy shelter from the strong sun), and we buy our meats from other neighbors.
We've not dedicated any area to composting, but added cuttings under the pepper plants or midst the pak-wan, etc. as seems least cluttered. So far the small flies have brought us an array of tiny birds, garden lizards and toads. So far, not too many snakes... but way too many ants. i.e. our little corner of the neighborhood has a high density of life. Has anyone else started from such a setting? If so, how did yours evolve?
Back to the topic, I'd guess that the benefit of EM to the soil could be compared to eating yogurts for humans - it enriches the ratio of good micro-organisms in the area. Definitely not a quick fix, but one that supports the best environment for health. I've downloaded the book cover and article for more follow-up and will give it a go to keep supporting our soil that so well supports us.

[MrWiggle]

Smithson, on 2008-10-06 11:20:35, said:

Yesterday I bought some Efficient Organisms, it came with several recipes for composting, including a '24 hr Compost' as well as a recipe for an organic insect spray. If anyone would like more info on the recipes, pls PM.

Howdy....Can you send me your 24hr compost recipe....hope its simple.

My last compost lots have not steamed, nuttin, not even warm toast like temp......bugger

Got a book for you also.

[MrWiggle]

Anybody been to this Saraburi farm ?? we are trying to get in contact and go for a looksie as it is not far from us.

[MrWiggle]

I can answer the above question......me, we went there yesterday.

[jandtaa]

Was it worth the trip MrWiggle ?? Been thinking about a visit for a while now but it is a bit of a trek for me so any info most welcome.

cheers J

[MrWiggle]

yes it was.

[MrWiggle]

Shame MF is not around to comment....seems dead around these parts of late.

[MrWiggle]

So quiet you can hear the microganisms thinking...

[jandtaa]

Hi Mr Wiggle

I suggest you use the quiet time (rainy season where you are by any chance ?) to use this forum as a kind of archive (there's a good deal of useful info going back a good deal of years from some very knowledgable guys-try using the search function)

If you read a bit more through all the threads you may find all kinds of enlightenment ie. MF although not anti-organic simply does not post in this sub forum (mores the pity) so is unlikeley to comment on Saraburi farm (more positive feedback from your good self may help to stimulate more debate on the subject) but has been posting in the general farming forum recently (before your last couple of posts) so maybe like the good man you too can move on, sorry but you're beginning to sound like a stuck record.

regards J

[MrWiggle]

Does receiving the moderator gene do this to everyone ??

[drtreelove]

MrWiggle, on 2009-09-18 08:13:26, said:

Does receiving the moderator gene do this to everyone ??

The moderator has the responsibility of protecting the integrity and quality of the forum.  We should all respect that and take to heart his observations, even if it means self-reflection and attitude adjustment. Hey, I need a kick in the butt sometimes and I know it.  don