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Posted 2008-11-24 02:08:43
[quote name='Nampeung' post='2349212' date='2008-11-23 19:32:49']Thanks to Sriracha John for giving us proper updates on what's actually happening instead of waffling  [/quote]
[quote name='jitagon' post='2349433' date='2008-11-23 21:05:02'][quote name='Nampeung' post='2349212' date='2008-11-23 13:32:49']Thanks to Sriracha John for giving us proper updates on what's actually happening instead of waffling [/quote]
Seconded.
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[quote name='h90' post='2349455' date='2008-11-23 21:17:31'][quote name='jitagon' post='2349433' date='2008-11-23 21:05:02'][quote name='Nampeung' post='2349212' date='2008-11-23 13:32:49']Thanks to Sriracha John for giving us proper updates on what's actually happening instead of waffling [/quote]
Seconded.
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SJ continue the good job....always good Infos
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[quote name='JacknDanny' post='2349554' date='2008-11-23 22:22:27']Thats why its called the NEWS CLIPPINGS Section 
SJ always puts his comments in a different colour just in case some numb nuts out there thinks its the real news 
The sense of humour is obviously wasted on you.  [/quote]
[quote name='globalj' post='2349557' date='2008-11-23 22:27:12']What JacknDanny said.
If people don't want to read the news clippings then why read a news clippings thread.
And personally I'd much rather read news clippings from the press rather than some daft conversation about how these protests could be related to GDP.
Carry on as you are SJ.[/quote]
[quote name='baht&sold' post='2349591' date='2008-11-23 23:00:49']PS; yes, do keep up the good work SJ  [/quote]
The ayes carry the motion.
Thank you.
Posted 2008-11-24 02:25:16
 sriracha john, on 2008-11-24 02:08:43, said:
The ayes carry the motion.
Thank you.
The "no's" (the silent majority) just can't be bothered any more. Keep up the good work LaoPo.
Time to buy property - blood on the streets very soon.
Posted 2008-11-24 02:36:27
JetsetBkk, on 2008-11-24 02:25:16, said: sriracha john, on 2008-11-24 02:08:43, said: The ayes carry the motion.
Thank you.
The "no's" (the silent majority) just can't be bothered any more. Keep up the good work LaoPo.
 typical misinterpretation of actual data by the jetster.... 
Edited by sriracha john, 2008-11-24 02:39:25.
Posted 2008-11-24 02:59:51
Anyhoo... moving back to the topic of the thread (which, in anticipation of some sort of additional and unnecessary retorts... is not me)... it looks like it's going to be a multi-prong approach this morning... starting within hours... with lessons learned from NBT and with the addition of Don Mueang... also the "home base" of the renegade lunatic with the M-16 Khittaya is one of the prongs...
PAD set to launch 'King Taksin Operation'
The anti-government People's Alliance for Democracy (PAD) yesterday mobilised a massive gathering of protesters at Government House and Rajadamnoen Avenue for today's final push into Parliament in a last-ditch bid to topple the government of Prime Minister Somchai Wongsawat.
Tens of thousands of protesters from the provinces will splinter into three groups today to surround Parliament, the temporary government office at Don Mueang Airport, and some business spots in the capital such as the Stock Exchange and the Finance Ministry, a source said.
A plan to again storm NBT television station was reportedly rejected as key members considered the previous attempt in August a failure and politically incorrect.
Dubbed the "King Taksin Operation", the protesters are comparing their fight to that of King Taksin the Great who ordered his troops to break rice bowls and pots before launching an attack on Chantaburi, meaning soldiers would have rice to eat only after the victory.
King Taksin was the great king who liberated Ayutthaya from Burma, but is not related to former prime minister Thaksin Shinawatra, PAD's sworn enemy. *an often-encountered misunderstanding*
The PAD protesters plan to lay siege to Parliament to block the amendment of the Constitution although House Speaker Chai Chidchob said the amendment was not on the agenda. The session, instead, would tackle the negotiating framework for the Asean pacts.
A government source said Chai might cancel today's session if Parliament gates were blocked by the PAD, to avoid a recurrence of the October 7 violence when two protesters were killed and 400 others injured in clashes between anti-riot police and protesters.
Asked about his plan if PAD protesters successfully blocked the entrance to Parliament, Chai yesterday said, "I will lie prostrate before them and ask for permission to go inside."
Chai insisted that the proposed amendment to the Constitution was not on the agenda of the parliamentary session.
Today's protest actions come amid fears of violence after the PAD's opponents launched a series of bomb attacks on the group, killing two people and injuring dozens in a span of less than a week. The latest casualty was PAD security guard Yuthapong Samerpak who died yesterday after sustaining serious injuries from a grenade attack in the early hours of Saturday.
The PAD has also adopted contingency measures in the event something untoward happens to its five core leaders. It has appointed second generation leaders to take charge of the movement in their place. The latest to be appointed are Saranyu Wongkrachang, an entertainer, and Maleerat Kaewka, a former Senator. The two will join Samran Rodphet, Sirichai Maingarm and Sawit Kaewan as the second-generation leaders.
- The Nation / 2008-11-24
Edited by sriracha john, 2008-11-24 03:05:05.
Posted 2008-11-24 03:35:25
Definitely an early reveille today... followed by a Boatswain Mate's Pipe blowing "Turn To"...
(sound file for a sample of a bosun pipe piping, Turn to)
for lots of people...
Sondhi says PAD will launch simultaneous protests at 6 am Monday
Sondhi Limthongkul, No 1 leader of the People's Alliance for Democracy, told the crowd at Government House Sunday night that the PAD will launch simultaneous protests at several locations around the city at 6 am Monday.
Speaking to the crowd at 8 pm, Sondhi said the protesters should get themselves ready at 6 am for moving out to the houses of several leading government leaders to conduct simultaneous protests.
He hinted that the PAD would protest at the house of Chat Thai Party Leader Banharn Silapa-archa and the house of Gen Khattiya Sawasdiphol among other locations.
Later, other PAD leaders said the protesters will launch protests at the house of Prime Minister Somchai Wongsawat, at the Stock Exchange of Thailand, and the Royal Thai Police head office as well.
- The Nation / 2008-11-24
Edited by sriracha john, 2008-11-24 03:39:23.
Posted 2008-11-24 03:52:13
" King Taksin was the great king who liberated Ayutthaya from Burma, but is not related to former prime minister Thaksin Shinawatra, PAD's sworn enemy. *an often-encountered misunderstanding*"
Correct - a different name, different spelling, and different pronounciation - when pronunced in Thai the 2 names are not ever similar.
Posted 2008-11-24 05:51:03
Police said 2,400 policemen would be stationed outside parliament, which is about one kilometre from the prime minister's compound.
"Police and soldiers will not be armed with lethal weapons, only shields and batons," government spokesman Nattawut Sai-gua told Associated Press.
2008-11-24.
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hopefully, they are being honest THIS time... because before... they weren't...
sriracha john, on 2008-10-07 16:25:47, said: george, on 2008-10-07 14:08:58, said:
Unarmed, but heavily-protected with helmets, face masks and shields, hundreds of police moved through
These shotgun-toting police must not have gotten the memo...
Armed Thai riot police officers take a position as they confront with anti-government protesters during a demonstration against government outside Parliament in Bangkok, Thailand, Tuesday, Oct. 7, 2008. Scores of protesters were injured.
Associated Press
Posted 2008-11-24 06:17:32
COUNTRY ON THE BRINK AGAIN
"Last battle" begins today
By The Political desk
The Nation
Published on November 24, 2008
Anti-government protesters are planning the biggest rally today in a final showdown with the government, this time going for a people's revolution to topple the Somchai administration.
"The protesters under the People's Alliance for Democracy would not totally bank on the military to come to their side in toppling the Somchai government but would rather launch their own version of the people's revolution," said a political observer.
This time they have learnt the lesson.
In the people's revolution, the protesters will be attempting to woo public support so that they achieve a critical mass of more than 100,000 people to seize the capital. Spreading out in different rallies, they will lay siege on Parliament, surround the temporary office of the Somchai Cabinet at Don Muang and take control of other key communication sites.
"By doing so, the anti-government protesters are about to launch a coup in the capital similarly to military coups of the past. The difference is that they do not carry weapons or have guns and tanks like the military," said the political observer.
But to succeed, the military must also guard their security against the police forces.
The doctors and academics plan to render support to the PAD today. The state enterprise workers also plan to launch a nation-wide work stoppage.
On October 7, 2008 when the police shot tear gas into the protesters killing one person and injuring more than 400 people, the protesters waited desperately for the military to come to their side to no avail. Now they plan to stage a revolution of their own, either with military or without military support.
Maleerat Kaewka, a spokesman of the PAD, told the crowd to hang on until Wednesday when the people's war would be finished by then.
Others sense that bloodshed is hanging in the air as the anti-government protesters gear up their final war and the pro-government supporters are preparing a counter-attack.
"I believe that the situation will reach a breaking point next week. The temperature is now reaching a boiling point. It is just a moment away before a bloodshed happens and military coup will finish it up," said Rangsan Pathumwan, a lecturer at Chiang Mai University.
"They are now breaking into adversary groups. Some would like to please the Big Boss (Thaksin) and are ready to launch a clash."
Phromsak Saengpho, a leader of the pro-government and Red Shirt supporters in Chiang Mai, also speculated that a military coup might be imminent.
He said if a military coup were to happen over the next two to three days, Gen Anupong Paochinda, the army chief, would not have anything to do with it but it would rather be the work of the military from the upcountry joining with the Bangkok military.
"I don't believe that Gen Anupong would take part in the coup. He is afraid that if he does that he might not have the ground to stand on," he said.
He said the probability of a military coup has increased, with the military summoning leaders of the red shirt protesters in Chiang Mai into the Kavila Military Command to urge them not to join in the rally.
Prime Minister Somchai Wongsawat is now attending the Asia-Pacific Economic Cooperation meeting in Peru. He won't be back in Bangkok until Wednesday.
Yesterday protesters began to fortify their position in the Government House, numbering 50,000 people. The atmosphere looked like a festival as the protesters prepare to go for war.
Suriyasai Katasila, one of the leaders of the PAD, said the protesters will march to Parliament at seven o'clock tomorrow's morning and avoid marching at night.
The protesters have been attacked several times by small bombs and grenades, including a blast Thursday that killed one person and wounded 29.
Before leaving for Peru, PM Somchai signed a series of document to maintain internal security. One of the documents appoints Gen Anupong to head a committee, which is in charge of monitoring and maintaining security and law and order in Bangkok.
Army spokesman Col. Sansern Khaewkamnerd said police would be responsible for keeping the situation under control, but that 2,000 soldiers would be on standby in case police ask for help.
Police said 2,400 police would be stationed outside Parliament, which is about half a mile (1 kilometre) from the occupied prime minister's compound, Government House.
-The Nation Politics
LaoPo
Edited by LaoPo, 2008-11-24 06:21:35.
Posted 2008-11-24 07:06:10
LaoPo, on 2008-11-24 06:17:32, said: Prime Minister Somchai Wongsawat is now attending the Asia-Pacific Economic Cooperation meeting in Peru. He won't be back in Bangkok until Wednesday. 
Thailand's Prime Minister Somchai Wongsawat (L) stands next to U.S. President George W. Bush while wearing ponchos from Peru, during the group photo at the Asia-Pacific Economic Cooperation (APEC) summit in Lima, November 23, 2008.
REUTERS
All the APEC leaders in their ponchos. Little Somchai is back row, 3rd from right.
Thai Rath
Quote The protesters have been attacked several times by small bombs and grenades, including a blast Thursday that killed one person and wounded 29.
Before leaving for Peru, PM Somchai signed a series of document to maintain internal security. One of the documents appoints Gen Anupong to head a committee, which is in charge of monitoring and maintaining security and law and order in Bangkok.
Four bombs exploded in the Banglampu area in central Bangkok early this morning, with two of the bombs targeted at the ASTV headquarters. Fortunately, the bombs caused no injuries or damages.
At around 3.40 am this morning, four bombs exploded in the Banglampu area. The first bomb hit a police kiosk at the Banglampu intersection. About five minutes later, another bomb went off close to a small park area on the Sib Sam Hang Road, close to the first bomb site.
Simultaneously, two bombs exploded in the Chaopraya River, behind the ASTV headquarters on Phra Arthit Road.
A PAD volunteer guard who was on duty at the ASTV headquarters said he heard a gunshot from the opposite side of the river. All of the guards then crouched low on the ground while keeping their eyes on the opposite side of the river. They saw a bright light like a firecracker which caused a loud explosion in the river.
A second bomb was then shot from the same location a few seconds later. It fell into the Chaopraya River, a few meters away from the Manager speedboat, docked behind the ASTV headquarters. The PAD guard believes the bombs were targeted at the ASTV headquarters, but the shooter miscalculated the distance, causing them to fell into the river. They also believe the shooter was on a boat in the middle of the river.
The bomb at the police kiosk at the Banglampu intersection caused the glass to break, but no one was injured.
- TOC / 2008-11-24
Edited by sriracha john, 2008-11-24 07:24:27.
Posted 2008-11-24 07:13:17
I'm not sure whether anyone has posted this in the 117 pages of replies here, but live TV coverage in English can be seen at
ASTV Television
Click the "TOC" link in the middle of the page.
Fortunately, they are still on the air following a bomb attack early this morning.
Posted 2008-11-24 07:33:12
Quote Before leaving for Peru, PM Somchai signed a series of document to maintain internal security. One of the documents appoints Gen Anupong to head a committee, which is in charge of monitoring and maintaining security and law and order in Bangkok.
Army Commander-in-Chief Anupong Paochininda insisted the military would not adopt a violent method to control anti-government People’s Alliance for Democracy (PAD) protest’s situation, if the group moved to gather in front of the Parliament.
Gen Anupong, in his capacity as Chairman of the Joint Committee inspecting the political situation, revealed after chairing a rehearsal parade of Royal Guards in honor of His Majesty the King that the Committee had no special authority to control the PAD’s gathering, who would move to block the Parliament on Monday.
He added the military would not impose harsh measures to control the situation, hoping to see peaceful demonstration.
Meanwhile, the atmosphere of the parade's rehearsal was smooth. People watched the rehearsal curiously.
- ThaiNews / 2008-11-24
Posted 2008-11-24 07:37:42
Thanks Khun Bubba - got the English link
Posted 2008-11-24 09:29:49
marshbags, on 2008-11-24 08:44:14, said: DAAD urged to keep away from PAD protesters if they lay siege to Parliament
By The Nation Published on November 24, 2008
Pro-government protesters were urged yesterday not to interfere with the People's Alliance for Democracy protesters who are planning to lay siege to Parliament today.
Veera Musigapong, host of the third mobile Truth Today show, urged members of the Democratic Alliance for Democracy or "the red shirt people" not to interfere with the PAD's rally when they move to besiege Parliament. "We will wait and see one day and decide our next move later,'' he said.
Chatuporn Prompan, a leader of government supporters and also a host of the third mobile Truth Today show at Wat Suan Kaew, said he was informed that there would be an arson attack at the Thai Khu Fah building either last night or tonight.
"I do not want to see that happen so I want to warn that burning down Thai Khu Fah is equal to burning down the country and the PAD themselves,'' he said.
The third mobile Truth Today kicked off with Wat Suan Kaew abbot Phra Payom Kallayano sitting on the stage to monitor the show to ensure there would be no mudslinging, no use of abusive and provocative language and no allegations.
The abbot said he would like to listen to humble speech rather than attacks. After one hour, the monk left the stage to monitor the talk show inside his monastery.
Leaders of the DAAD took turns at the stage from Manit Chitchanklab, Jakrapob Penkair, Adisorn Piangket, and Pongthep Thepkanchana.
Adisorn said if the House was dissolved today, there would be no difference because the Constitution would be changed. "Whoever wins the election would be ousted by dictatorial rules,'' he said.
Pongthep said the Senators who stirred up problems were mostly from the group of 40 Senators. There is a need to amend the Constitution because the highest law makes it tough for judges to be neutral and the Constitution believes in permanent officials more than politicians, which is not in line with democratic system since politicians are elected by the people, he said.
He proposed that judges clean up their own acts, especially those involved in cases against former election commissioners.
Jakrapob revealed that the visa cancellation of former prime minister Thaksin Shinawatra and his wife by the United Kingdom was sought by a former Thai foreign minister who promised to protect the interest of the UK in Phuket in exchange for the visa revocation in order to humiliate Thaksin.
Chaturon said the PAD had violated Buddhist precepts because its leaders provoked their followers to fight instead of resorting to a peaceful struggle. "They told their people to bring arms and move to seize Parliament. They could go in and kill MPs and senators,'' he said.
He blamed some academics who had sided with the PAD by speaking in support of their movement even though they have broken the law.
Phra Payom invited the PAD to organise their rally in his temple, also adding he was not biased. He urged participants of the show to use moral sense and judgement to end political wrangling.
Over 1,000 police were deployed to keep security at the temple.
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Can you believe the crap coming out of the these self appointed, self important individuals
Talk about living in a fantasy world, an arrangement with the U.K. on the visa cancellation, indeed. WTF do they take us for !!!!!!!!!!
marshbags 
The bit in red is a ridiculous claim. It can only be intended for the most ignorant and shows what a fool the speaker actually is
Posted 2008-11-24 10:07:08
sriracha john, on 2008-11-24 02:59:51, said: Chai insisted that the proposed amendment to the Constitution was not on the agenda of the parliamentary session.
- The Nation / 2008-11-24
Sure, they can't be bothered anymore with just changing, rewriting sections, General amnesty for ALL wrongdoings and all convictions! 
Posted 2008-11-24 10:09:29
should we use just the new thread for todays stuff and related developments?
Posted 2008-11-24 10:10:52
This topic is now off-topic and very hard to navigate due to the huge number of posts.
The new PAD developments continues here:
http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/4-Grenades-E...ti-t224559.html
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