The Royal Thai Armed Forces, that should tell you something.
Do You Support Another Military Coup?
Started by Ulysses G., 2008-11-27 09:34
#52
samiinjapan
Advanced Member Posted 2008-11-27 15:22:39  I FULLY SUPPORT MILITARY COUP CAN`T WAIT FOR IT SOONER BETTER #53
britmaveric
Defender of the Realm Posted 2008-11-27 16:18:45
Better if the police/army squash the PAD and send them packing. Holding a country hostage by a small minority is simply wrong and should be stamped down. If you want to protest do so, but you've crossed the line when you enter govt buildings and international airports.
#54
snowflake
Super Member Posted 2008-11-27 16:24:23
Why do people still insist the current government was elected by a majority? Sure, the PPP got more votes than the other parties but that is because they BOUGHT the votes in Isaan! Until this country finds a way to block vote buying, new elections are not the solution -- the results will be the same. Maybe a coup and another period of military rule will give the country time to insure truly free elections. Do you try to tell me that the PAD did not try to buy votes? Sure they did, they offered my GF 300B to vote for them! The people have to stop wanting money and then it might be a fair election here... Its all about money!   Which election did they stand in? Can't remeber seeing them as a party the last time. Sure they were not a party at that time but the founders, the people with the money behind PAD were in the politics that time. They did lose... I am sorry if I explained myself wrongly... #55
JimsKnight
The Forlorn Member Posted 2008-11-27 16:26:37
Why do people still insist the current government was elected by a majority? Sure, the PPP got more votes than the other parties but that is because they BOUGHT the votes in Isaan! Until this country finds a way to block vote buying, new elections are not the solution -- the results will be the same. Maybe a coup and another period of military rule will give the country time to insure truly free elections. Do you try to tell me that the PAD did not try to buy votes? Sure they did, they offered my GF 300B to vote for them! The people have to stop wanting money and then it might be a fair election here... Its all about money!  You made my way...... What fools the PAD are....offering money for the vote even they aren't a Party and can't be voted for To add: most probably another paid poster who did not read his script carefully Beat me to it. I am surprised muppets like this are allowed to post on here. From a purely selfish point of view, Thai politics has very little (if no) impact on my life here, I was here for the last coup and I am sure I will be here for the next. My major concern is Thaksin coming back and making life very difficult for us Brit expats due to his visa withdrawal, he has already hinted that this will be high on his agenda as he feels he has 'lost face'. I take no sides on this as I think the PAD (and dems) and PPP (and UDD) are just about as bad as each other, but I vote yes for a coup - bad for Thailand but good for Brit expats. Let the games begin #56
seri thai
Senior Member Posted 2008-11-27 17:12:59
I don't support a coup, but I think it would be better if the army forces the government to resign. Considering that walking in with guns and forcing the signature is nothing different from a coup I voted with yes. That is a coup. Don't you mean you don't support a bloody coup ? The army involved in politics!! that's not democracy. The army is not doing it's job and the generals should be charged with treason, simple. No it is not you are right but it is Thailands form of democracy and it has always worked. Couldn't have put it better myself, PAd's policy and raison d'etre 
#57
Ricardo
Aged Folk-Rocking Member Posted 2008-11-27 17:43:11
The only acceptable reason, for another coup now, would be to defuse the current situation & avoid more blood on the streets. Get the PAD off home, get the country running again, makes sense to me.
It would thus buy time for a political solution, perhaps if the PM & PPP were not totally-focused on ramming through constitutional-change for the benefit of their patron, they might still be a part of this process ? But Somchai doesn't even acknowledge that, while he was away, his government tried to meet on Monday to change the constitution, and that this helped escalate the demonstrations which met him upon his return. Is he naive, or out-of-touch, or a bought man ? The military have surely by now demonstrated, they don't want to get involved, if it can be avoided. Due credit to them. But I'm afraid of the consequences, if they don't now step in, and blow the whistle for 'time-out'. 
Edited by Ricardo, 2008-11-27 17:43:48. #58
siam4ever
Senior Member Posted 2008-11-27 17:54:48
The army should step in and feed at trough for a while. Then there can be a peaceful election whereby the Thai people can freely elect the General of their choice.
#59
jdinasia
Leave my member out of it! Posted 2008-11-27 18:19:56
Sure they were not a party at that time but the founders, the people with the money behind PAD were in the politics that time. They did lose... I am sorry if I explained myself wrongly... Quote Do you try to tell me that the PAD did not try to buy votes? Sure they did, they offered my GF 300B to vote for them! The people have to stop wanting money and then it might be a fair election here... Its all about money! You seem to be confusing the PAD which has never been a political party ---- with PPP/TRT that the EC have both found to be guilty of election rigging #60
bniff
Member Posted 2008-11-27 21:30:37
Why do people still insist the current government was elected by a majority? Sure, the PPP got more votes than the other parties but that is because they BOUGHT the votes in Isaan! Until this country finds a way to block vote buying, new elections are not the solution -- the results will be the same. Maybe a coup and another period of military rule will give the country time to insure truly free elections. Do you try to tell me that the PAD did not try to buy votes? Sure they did, they offered my GF 300B to vote for them! The people have to stop wanting money and then it might be a fair election here... Its all about money! You made my way...... What fools the PAD are....offering money for the vote even they aren't a Party and can't be voted for To add: most probably another paid poster who did not read his script carefully Stop being a child - we all know what he meant. As UG said; the Dems and MRT all buy votes - welcome to Thai politics. In any election by the masses MRT wins easily, even when the army change the constituation to stop him (and protect themselves from their illegal actions), ban his rallies and allow Dem / Pad rallies, control MRT areas through martial law, etc, etc. Don't forget how onesided the run up to the last election was, and MRT still ended up in power. I voted no. 1) The army have no part in politics. Full stop. No, Thailand isn't a special case, it just says this as an attempt to hold back democracy. (When I say it, I mean certain currupt groups that don't want democracy to come because they won't hold the purse-strings any longer). 2) Have you not noticed a cycle? Should it be repeated yet again? Anyways, my feeling is that things are likely to change big time from the 5th, for the worse. Burma here we come. #61
sassienie
Intelligent Member Posted 2008-11-27 22:52:16
To speak honestly:
Foreigners here have no say and cannot be supporters of any political parties in Thailand. We can only have views and not class ourselves as supporters. Any Farang who attempts to join the protests or publishes anti party or pro party propaganda in their own right (name) into the public domain would be arrested, imprisoned, than deported. It’s all about what no one is admitting, who gives a toss which party gets in providing they leave us ex-pats alone to continue on with our lives as normal in Thailand. #62
inf
Advanced Member Posted 2008-11-27 23:07:29
I don't live in Thailand, but:
wouldn't a coup bring in just another lot of corrupt, incompetent characters, only with the difference that you couldn't oust that lot in elections or otherwise? And don't I remember that after the last coup (post-Thaksin, pre-Samak) the military-led government made some major economic policy mistakes? When there's a worldwide economic crisis hitting, I don't think you want a bunch of amateurs running the show. #63
nudnik
Advanced Member Posted 2008-11-27 23:10:52
If the military does step in and take over again, I suspect that things will settle down. And I suspect pockets will lined with the country's wealth. Brilliant idea. Not. #64
Kerryd
Independent Member Posted 2008-11-27 23:56:44
If the military does step in and take over again, I suspect that things will settle down. Not. Or now with the oh so honest PPP holding the reins (and still answering to Thaksin) ? Do you think Thailand would be better off with: a government run by a party that may be dissolved soon (and it's members banned from politics for election fraud), that is headed by the brother-in-law of a man the Thai courts have convicted and sentenced to prison, and still takes it's orders from that same convicted criminal, who has fled the country ? That's the kind of government that should be running Thailand ? But you don't think they would line their pockets with the country's wealth ? I think even members of the PPP would be shocked to hear that anyone thought of them as honest politicians. 
#65
nudnik
Advanced Member Posted 2008-11-28 00:09:31
That's the kind of government that should be running Thailand ? But you don't think they would line their pockets with the country's wealth ? Blah blah blah blah blah - let's all hide in our bomb shelters and wring our hands in unison. boo hoo boohooooooooooooo. The military is designed to kill people and break things. What happened the last time they had power? 1. They broke things. I guess you need 1 and 2 this time huh? #66
elkangorito
Licensed professional Cynic and 'Boundary Pusher'. Posted 2008-11-28 01:07:43
I can't believe that the majority of voters support violence to solve a political battle. This sounds a bit like the pre Iraq invasion time when the majority of yanks supported the invasion. The use of brain cells didn't happen then but that doesn't mean that Thailand needs to follow the same idiotic ideal now.
#67
Kerryd
Independent Member Posted 2008-11-28 10:01:28
I can't believe that the majority of voters support violence to solve a political battle. This sounds a bit like the pre Iraq invasion time when the majority of yanks supported the invasion. The use of brain cells didn't happen then but that doesn't mean that Thailand needs to follow the same idiotic ideal now. Why do people assume that a coup this time will be like a full-out war ? Do they think the "reds" will come out an battle the army ? From what I've seen and heard and read, the only battle the "reds" have been in, is one in which they were paid and then boozed up before performing a pathetically poor attack on the "yellows". Who is going to pay them to stand up to the army ? Some iron bars and slingshots against tanks and rifles ? It will take a lot of Lao Khao and special "I am Invulnerable" tattoos to convince them to battle the army. There may be some loosely organized, sporadic violence, but I wouldn't expect any "civil war" level incidents. |
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