#51
madjbs
Platinum Member Posted 2008-12-05 23:46:19
She is very smart to return today. No matter what, PAD will not take the airport today. If she return next week, I am not sure if PAD would take the airport again to stop her from coming back or not. And why would they do that? PAD want them back so they can at least try and get them sent down. PAD were the ones protesting at the British embassy and pressuring the Thai government for their return if you remember. #52
amarka
Senior Member Posted 2008-12-06 00:00:22
//snipped
hi... "Immigration Police Commissioner Lt Gen Chatchawal Suksomjit confirmed Friday that Pojaman Shinawatra will return to Bangkok at about 10 pm Friday night. Chatchawal said immigration police had no arrest warrant against Pojaman so she would pass through normal immigration procedure."The Nation so if there was no arrest warrant, then there was no need to arrest her. the court is doing its job her sentence is pending appeal. where are the surprises? the current case against her is already in the court. she never jumped bail in thailand she was already out of the country, so her bail conditions obviously included allowing her to travel, now she is back. so what did she do wrong? amarka #53
cclub75
Platinum Member Posted 2008-12-06 00:07:06
The real question is why. And why now ?
A few days after a major political crisis... she's taking big risks. Why ? Nation thinks it's related to PM election negociations... Or something else ? #54
Johpa
Curmudgeon Posted 2008-12-06 00:12:45
Ah ha......its not over until the fat lady sings  So very true. 
#55
Thanh-BKK
Super Member Posted 2008-12-06 00:41:56
Hi.
My boyfriend told me (apparently that was said on television news) that she is a candidate for PTP (TRT Mk. III). Lucky i don't need to fly anywhere  Best regards..... Thanh #56
Moonrakers
Ska'd member. Posted 2008-12-06 01:06:02
Hi. My boyfriend told me (apparently that was said on television news) that she is a candidate for PTP (TRT Mk. III). Lucky i don't need to fly anywhere Best regards..... Thanh My wife just told me the same thing. Pokemon for PM???? What was the subject of that thread in general topics again? Oh yeah................... TIT. #57
old wanderer
Senior Member Posted 2008-12-06 01:18:25
In a number of my post, I have pointed at how Pojaman was the real culprit...
Think about the past few months.... Somchai was supposed to be PM but the assembled MP ignored the role call, so they did not have enough present to vote him in as PM. The following day his WIFE (Thaskins sister) arrived carrying a large hand bag over her shoulder, she went in and met with the MP, and then returned home with an empty bag.....within the hour we had Somchai as PM. The current scene, with various parties threating to join the Democrats, now Pojaman wants to attend the political meetings. Who has the deepest pockets? Originally she was to return on the same day a Somchai from Peru...The PAD sort of messed that up. Who can get met at an aircraft, and have a private car in the secure areas of the airport and not go through the normal immigration line.....Almost nobody.... Why would the TRT party members that are banned from politics for 5 years be waiting to meet her....(must have been bringing gifts to welcome her back??) And how did they know she was comming...(just happened to see it on TV?). She is indeed the BLACK WIDOW. that will eat her mate when the time comes. This Thaskin Clan will plunge Thailand into civil war if it is not exterminated. #58
MKAsok
Uptown Top Rankin' Member Posted 2008-12-06 01:18:30
My wife just told me the same thing. Pokemon for PM???? #59
BeauKarl
Senior Member Posted 2008-12-06 01:24:54
Talking about looking for trouble
#60
mickmac
Senior Member Posted 2008-12-06 01:39:07
[quote name='amarka' post='2386900' date='2008-12-06 00:00:22'][quote name='bangkokrick' post='2386871' date='2008-12-06 00:39:09'][quote name='mrtoad' post='2386853' date='2008-12-05 23:29:12'][quote name='bangkokrick' post='2386833' date='2008-12-05 23:22:34'][quote name='mrtoad' post='2386813' date='2008-12-05 23:10:43'][quote name='bangkokrick' post='2386803' date='2008-12-05 23:05:57'][quote name='Plus' post='2386782' date='2008-12-05 22:58:53']She'll get "arrested", appeal her sentence and apply for bail, which will be granted in exchange for passports.
BUT, it might all be just a rumor, arriving at 10 PM is a "straight to jail until Monday morning" option, and if the police doesn't do that - it's time to take over the airport again.[/quote] I saw her arriving on the TV and she was certainly not being arrested. Please don't joke about taking over the airport again as it's just not funny. cheers, Rick [/quote] It might not be funny, but then how can you explain that a convicted criminal is allowed to swan into the country without being arrested? Don't bet on the fact that the yellows are going to be back at the airport. [/quote] It's not up to me to explain that is it? People died during he airport takeover and i still don't find that something to joke about. Cheers, Rick [/quote] Rick, I wasn't asking you to explain it, merely pointing out that the Arrival of Pokamon could further fan the flames, especially if the authorities are seen to be doing nothing. [/quote] I have agreed with everything you said because it's ridiculous that she has not been arrested. I also agree that it could fan the flames as you put it. There appears to be no law in Thailand at this moment. Cheers, Rick. [/quote] hi... "Immigration Police Commissioner Lt Gen Chatchawal Suksomjit confirmed Friday that Pojaman Shinawatra will return to Bangkok at about 10 pm Friday night. Chatchawal said immigration police had no arrest warrant against Pojaman so she would pass through normal immigration procedure."The Nation so if there was no arrest warrant, then there was no need to arrest her. the court is doing its job her sentence is pending appeal. where are the surprises? the current case against her is already in the court. she never jumped bail in thailand she was already out of the country, so her bail conditions obviously included allowing her to travel, now she is back. so what did she do wrong? amarka [/quote] What I was trying to find out is what her conditions of bail were? Surely doing a bunk to the UK with Hubby during the Olympics, and living there would indicate that her intention was not to come back. In fact she would still probably be there if the UK F.O. had not revoked her visa. I find it odd that when you've been convicted and sentenced that you can get bail, then swan off around the world without any travel restriction whatsoever!! #61
torrenova
Platinum Member Posted 2008-12-06 02:07:27
The daughter has paid me off to marry her and get her a visa to live in the UK and then bring in the rest of the family. It'll be nice living in Chelsea in my new big house.
#62
old wanderer
Senior Member Posted 2008-12-06 02:31:31
she never jumped bail in thailand she was already out of the country, so her bail conditions obviously included allowing her to travel, now she is back. so what did she do wrong? amarka Perhaps I can refresh your memory:: Arrest warrants issued for Thaksin and wife who are reportedly seeking political asylum in the UK The Supreme Court yesterday issued arrest warrants for former premier Thaksin Shinawatra and his wife Pojaman for failing to appear for a hearing on the Ratchadaphisek land purchase case. The arrest warrants by the court's Criminal Division for Political Office Holders rendered the couple, who are now in England, "fugitives" and diplomatic hot potatoes as extradition requests from Bangkok loom. Thaksin and his family are understood to be in the process of seeking political asylum in the United Kingdom. With Pojaman already convicted for tax fraud, and corruption trials set to start for Thaksin, the couple's claims of political persecution will become highly contentious The Criminal Court on Thursday found the wife of ousted prime minister Thaksin Shinawatra guilty of intentionally avoiding tax payment of Bt546 million for the transfer of 4.5-million shares of the Shinawatra Computer and Communications' shares, worth Bt738 million. Found guilty in the same charges were her adopted brother, Bannaphot Damapong, and her secretary, Kanjanapa Honghern. The Court sentenced Khunying Pojaman and Bannaphot to three years in jail; two years for the charges relating to the conspiracy to evade tax and one year for giving falsified statements. Kanjanapa faces two years in jail. The Court said the three defendants had committed serious crimes and filed false statements with government agencies to avoid paying taxes. They intended not to pay taxes despite being rich. [color="#0000FF"] Now the court on the Ratchadaphisek ultimately found her not guilt because it only has jurisdiction over person of high political office which she did not have...They also said she could be prosecuted in another court however. Absolutely astounding that so much of Government would bow and stoop at for the wishes of a convicted felon that like most criminals appeal the convictions....until the verdict is either confirmed or reversed, she is still a convicted felon. Edited by old wanderer, 2008-12-06 02:32:54. #63
Moonrakers
Ska'd member. Posted 2008-12-06 02:46:49
Having now been here for almost 9 years, I thought that nothing would surprise me anymore.
Yet now............. #64
CL0R0X
Advanced Member Posted 2008-12-06 02:47:49
and they ask why the country never move forward
#65
dave9988
Senior Member Posted 2008-12-06 02:57:30
I am a Thaskin fan, I admit it. I like his spirit to keep fighting when I am sure he was offered the "retirement" deal.
#66
plachon
Platinum Member Posted 2008-12-06 04:57:29
I am a Thaskin fan, I admit it. I like his spirit to keep fighting when I am sure he was offered the "retirement" deal. And are you a fan of Pokemon, his ex-, stargazer extraordinaire and chief banker of the clan? Thailand's political situation has gone beyond plain farce to comic-tragedy, when this bouffant-haired witch waltzes in for the VIP treatment, as if all was well with the world and she wasn't a jailbird on the run from justice. Anybody count her bags off the plane and see how many she takes out the country, next time she needs to do a runner? Wonder who is going to be beneficiary of the Sinatra mob's largesse this time round? I'm sure you could be in line for a little reward Dave for your loyalty, if you went and rattled your "I love Mr T" tin outside her mansion down Thonburi way. After all, it is the season of giving, eh? 
#67
henryalleman
gentleman of leisure Posted 2008-12-06 05:40:50
Pojaman arrives Khunying Pojaman Shinawatra, ex-wife of former prime minister Thaksin Shinawatra, and her daugther, Pintongta, arrived at the Suvarnabhumi International airport at 10:30 pm Friday. They arrived on Thai Airways International's Flight TG607 from Hong Kong. Immigration officials checked their documents onboard the plane and they immediately left on a car after the document clearance. Several former Thai Rak Thai executives waited foroutside the passenger terminal but did not meet her. Somkram Kijlertpairoj, former deputy commerce minister, said he did not meetbecause a car picked her up at the plane and sent her to her house. The nation Immigration officials checked their documents onboard the plane and they immediately left on a car after the document clearance. This I don't understand Khun Pojaman Shinawatra is a common citizen why they make and exeption for her. Whey she can't follow mormal procedures like any other passenger. #68
Roadman
Senior Member Posted 2008-12-06 05:42:17
I am a Thaskin fan, I admit it. I like his spirit to keep fighting when I am sure he was offered the "retirement" deal. And are you a fan of Pokemon, his ex-, stargazer extraordinaire and chief banker of the clan? Thailand's political situation has gone beyond plain farce to comic-tragedy, when this bouffant-haired witch waltzes in for the VIP treatment, as if all was well with the world and she wasn't a jailbird on the run from justice. Anybody count her bags off the plane and see how many she takes out the country, next time she needs to do a runner? Wonder who is going to be beneficiary of the Sinatra mob's largesse this time round? I'm sure you could be in line for a little reward Dave for your loyalty, if you went and rattled your "I love Mr T" tin outside her mansion down Thonburi way. After all, it is the season of giving, eh? You meam the same way as the PAD leaders are allowed their equally destructive liberties? Same game, different side.Common sense dictates that when power vaccums exist ones gets off their arse and gets busy to seize it. And looking at Thailand right now there is no concept of leadership or law in place so it is there for the taking. The return of Pojaman is a wise move. She can be the evil Dr's sacrifical (lamb?) sheep - nothing to lose as if she goes under then sweaty nights with Nok, Noi and Nam while serving the last months of his overseas jail term would be quite satisfying. Beats sitting in a Thai jail, knowing who the judicary dances for, and waiting for their brought bullet in the back of the head. Smoke and mirrors... You don't have to blink, you will not miss it. The real power lady is dealing right now. Perhaps the winds of change that blew equality and the promise of change through the American system will blow the same chance of equality on other Americanised leaders that are now being 'mothered' into serving. I hope so, as then with some give and take there is opportunity for Thailand and the beautiful ordinary thai's who don't deserve this garbage. If not after the time of "He" who has gone to walk with Buddha, this impasse will still need to be resolved and by then the only resolution may be red on yellow. #69
JetsetBkk
The JesterBkk Posted 2008-12-06 05:48:49
... how did they know she was comming...(just happened to see it on TV?)... He sold it recently, I believe. #71
permanent_disorder
Senior Member Posted 2008-12-06 06:09:46
for a transfer of Bt738 million pay Bt546 million tax? fat.
she didn't pay tax in one of her deals and makes it look like an inner family present. so what? that is the big deal? envy other peoples money. nothing bettter to do? in the end it was her or her family money only exist because they have been busy, lucky and hard working. and money that gave other poeple a job. the protests just waste other peoples money, a lot of other people and lot of money, destory even other people businesses and the base for the job of other people. did you never try to cheat the tax office little bit? tax laws so complicated but with loopholes to evade paying taxes that there is a own service industry for. tax counsellor take money from people and in return they give the advice and concept how to pay as less as possible on tax money. and the people you know here in thailand. are that all honest taxpayers? anyone knows how much tax money the thaksin complex still did generated every year? #72
tartempion
Ugly Fat Farang Posted 2008-12-06 06:49:06
Immigration officials checked their documents onboard the plane and they immediately left on a car after the document clearance. This I don't understand Khun Pojaman Shinawatra is a common citizen why they make and exeption for her. Whey she can't follow mormal procedures like any other passenger. You never flew first class being a VIP?
#73
old wanderer
Senior Member Posted 2008-12-06 06:50:30
for a transfer of Bt738 million pay Bt546 million tax? fat. she didn't pay tax in one of her deals and makes it look like an inner family present. so what? that is the big deal? envy other peoples money. nothing bettter to do? in the end it was her or her family money only exist because they have been busy, lucky and hard working. and money that gave other poeple a job. the protests just waste other peoples money, a lot of other people and lot of money, destory even other people businesses and the base for the job of other people. did you never try to cheat the tax office little bit? tax laws so complicated but with loopholes to evade paying taxes that there is a own service industry for. tax counsellor take money from people and in return they give the advice and concept how to pay as less as possible on tax money. and the people you know here in thailand. are that all honest taxpayers? anyone knows how much tax money the thaksin complex still did generated every year? 1. The Bt 546 included intrest and PENALTIES, for not paying the normal tax in the 1st place...it way more than doubled the amount if she had just paid what was owed. 2/ The Family has been Busy, LUcky and Hard Working....Let see. Government buys a piece of land for 2 billion baht and sells it to Pojaman for 25% of what they paid....while being busy to change the normal bidding rules to require a 30% deposit with your bid and telling others to not bid exept for the 2 bids by associates that were somehow mysteriously lower? Or Lucky....Yet those that campained against corruption just seem to disappear. 3. Tax law complicated....Not when you change the law just before a major sale to exempt any tax....(of course this is not corruption be cause it was the law....(that was made to specifically exempt you interest) 4. Since politial donations are tax deductible...who was the largest single donner of the PPP...I will save you researching it...Pojaman... This clan need to be gone and eliminate the gene pool. #74
venturalaw
Super Member Posted 2008-12-06 06:51:44
The daughter has paid me off to marry her and get her a visa to live in the UK and then bring in the rest of the family. It'll be nice living in Chelsea in my new big house. #75
old wanderer
Senior Member Posted 2008-12-06 06:53:48
Immigration officials checked their documents onboard the plane and they immediately left on a car after the document clearance. This I don't understand Khun Pojaman Shinawatra is a common citizen why they make and exeption for her. Whey she can't follow mormal procedures like any other passenger. A check will show Khunying Pojaman still has a diplomatic passport (in her married name, which she used to enter), even though she is now using her single name.... It takes about 3 weeks to generate a normal passport from a consulate. |
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