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#526 badmouf

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Posted 2011-09-10 00:44:07

View PostTimthai, on 2011-09-05 06:54:01, said:

Just picked up a new green Ninjette SE for the wife... my strategy for avoiding complaints when I buy a new bike. (still eyeing the Multistrada!)

She loves it, so I'm happy.  (Maybe the designers are trying to appeal the the Thai market here in LOS, rather than we foreigners?)

The black nose looks a bit odd, but the blue accents don't look quite so bad in the flesh, but that's going to be a matter of opinion.

It's a fun ride though, I forgot how nimble it was to ride a small bike.  Though at 190cm, it doesn't fit me that well.

The thing that surprised me is that it has a temp gauge, but no fuel gauge, just a warning light?  Is this the same as previous models?  First thing it makes me think is they have an overheating problem... which I think unlikely.  Just seems like a very odd design decision.

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hello, where did you buy the new ninja 250 from? i went to real moto sports, the new place - and they have a 2/3 months waiting list for the new ninjas :(

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Posted 2011-09-10 13:42:08

View Postbadmouf, on 2011-09-10 00:44:07, said:

View PostTimthai, on 2011-09-05 06:54:01, said:

Just picked up a new green Ninjette SE for the wife... my strategy for avoiding complaints when I buy a new bike. (still eyeing the Multistrada!)

She loves it, so I'm happy.  (Maybe the designers are trying to appeal the the Thai market here in LOS, rather than we foreigners?)

The black nose looks a bit odd, but the blue accents don't look quite so bad in the flesh, but that's going to be a matter of opinion.

It's a fun ride though, I forgot how nimble it was to ride a small bike.  Though at 190cm, it doesn't fit me that well.

The thing that surprised me is that it has a temp gauge, but no fuel gauge, just a warning light?  Is this the same as previous models?  First thing it makes me think is they have an overheating problem... which I think unlikely.  Just seems like a very odd design decision.

Cheers.




hello, where did you buy the new ninja 250 from? i went to real moto sports, the new place - and they have a 2/3 months waiting list for the new ninjas :(

Got it from the dealer in Nakhon Sawan.  He only had the one on the showroom floor, but not sure if he had any other stock.  He had a 2011 model with only a few hundred km he tried to sell me.

I called around the Bkk dealers looking for a white one, but no luck, so went back and took the green one.

From previous discussions on waiting lists, it seems the provincial dealers have slower turnover, so have often had stock when the Bkk guys don't.

(seems my strategy worked though... she was nothing but smiles when we went to the Ducati dealer to test ride the Multistrada yesterday!  Wow, what a bike... checking the finances and will probably place the order today!  ...though the finances would have been a little easier if I hadn't just bought her the Ninjette!)

Cheers.

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Posted 2011-09-10 14:32:42

she smiles, you smile, ducati smile, kawasaki smile... You must be in the land of smile... Enjoy the safe riding!!

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Posted 2011-09-10 16:37:49

View Postsnowflake, on 2011-09-10 14:32:42, said:

she smiles, you smile, ducati smile, kawasaki smile... You must be in the land of smile... Enjoy the safe riding!!


LOL... yep, smiles all round!

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Posted 2011-09-10 16:48:01

Anyone know if there's an aftermarket rear shock for the Ninjette that lowers it a touch?

Wife's only short, and she can handle it fine, it's just a shade too tall when she needs to push it back or negotiate uneven ground.

Also, either an ajustable clutch lever, or will the clutch lever from the Er6 fit the Ninjette?

She surprised me yesterday, we went up to Nakhon Sawan on the 650 Ninja to bring the Ninjette back... she's just tips 50kg in full riding gear  (wringing wet)... the Ninjette cruised comfortably at 150kph... I had trouble keeping up with her at times!  What have I created!:o

We're out on a group ride tomorrow, so we'll see how she goes on a day ride.:D

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Posted 2011-09-11 07:55:45

View PostTimthai, on 2011-09-10 16:48:01, said:

Anyone know if there's an aftermarket rear shock for the Ninjette that lowers it a touch?

Wife's only short, and she can handle it fine, it's just a shade too tall when she needs to push it back or negotiate uneven ground.

Also, either an ajustable clutch lever, or will the clutch lever from the Er6 fit the Ninjette?

She surprised me yesterday, we went up to Nakhon Sawan on the 650 Ninja to bring the Ninjette back... she's just tips 50kg in full riding gear  (wringing wet)... the Ninjette cruised comfortably at 150kph... I had trouble keeping up with her at times!  What have I created!:o

We're out on a group ride tomorrow, so we'll see how she goes on a day ride.:D


AFAIK there are only three aftermarket shocks for the Ninjette; the YSS, the Ohlins, and the RaceTech (listed cheapest to most expensive).  However I don't think that any of them lower it and they're definitely sprung for someone a bit heavier than the flyweight that you've currently got riding the bike..  Roaring Toyz offers a set of lowering links that would do what you're looking for.  Apparently the 04-06 ZX-10R shackles can be used also.

Aftermarket levers that I am aware of are Pazzo, CRG and ASV.  Perhaps the cheapest would be to order a stock one and bend it back to the point that she wants?  That way if you ever have to sell the bike you can swap the original one back on and not be out that much.

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Posted 2011-09-11 08:56:35

View Postdave_boo, on 2011-09-11 07:55:45, said:

View PostTimthai, on 2011-09-10 16:48:01, said:

Anyone know if there's an aftermarket rear shock for the Ninjette that lowers it a touch?

Wife's only short, and she can handle it fine, it's just a shade too tall when she needs to push it back or negotiate uneven ground.

Also, either an ajustable clutch lever, or will the clutch lever from the Er6 fit the Ninjette?

She surprised me yesterday, we went up to Nakhon Sawan on the 650 Ninja to bring the Ninjette back... she's just tips 50kg in full riding gear  (wringing wet)... the Ninjette cruised comfortably at 150kph... I had trouble keeping up with her at times!  What have I created!:o

We're out on a group ride tomorrow, so we'll see how she goes on a day ride.:D


AFAIK there are only three aftermarket shocks for the Ninjette; the YSS, the Ohlins, and the RaceTech (listed cheapest to most expensive).  However I don't think that any of them lower it and they're definitely sprung for someone a bit heavier than the flyweight that you've currently got riding the bike..  Roaring Toyz offers a set of lowering links that would do what you're looking for.  Apparently the 04-06 ZX-10R shackles can be used also.

Aftermarket levers that I am aware of are Pazzo, CRG and ASV.  Perhaps the cheapest would be to order a stock one and bend it back to the point that she wants?  That way if you ever have to sell the bike you can swap the original one back on and not be out that much.

Awesome, thanks dave_boo, great info.  Very much appreciated.  I'll check out the options.
Cheers.

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Posted 2011-10-03 22:11:15

Hi Guys,Looking for a fender eliminator sold locally (Bangkok) for a 2010 Ninja 250, price/ pics / location appreciated.Thnx

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Posted 2011-10-03 22:27:20

View PostNewguy70, on 2011-10-03 22:11:15, said:

Hi Guys,Looking for a fender eliminator sold locally (Bangkok) for a 2010 Ninja 250, price/ pics / location appreciated.Thnx

Would you like us to install if for you too? ;)

Plenty in the classified section of the Ninja250Thailand forum. Sorry, not allowed to post links to other forums on ThaiVisa, but trust you can figure it out.

Ride On!

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Posted 2011-10-04 11:48:45

View PostBigBikeBKK, on 2011-10-03 22:27:20, said:


Would you like us to install if for you too? ;)

Plenty in the classified section of the Ninja250Thailand forum. Sorry, not allowed to post links to other forums on ThaiVisa, but trust you can figure it out.

Ride On!

Tony
Attempted to access that website several times last night, it's very fussy about the password to register, it keeps saying password must have letters&numbers, mmmm pretty much every website requires this. however, every combo i used got denied,go figure. Needless to say, I gave up; Tried again this morning site was down. Then 30 min later, was back up but still fussy about allowing me to register.  I will try try it again later this evening. . .

Thnx by the way for the shop regarding the longer stem bolt, as it worked out perfect for the "GPR" stabilizer.

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Posted 2011-10-04 13:30:53

FWIW, the last ride I went on with the Tiger/Sachs club guys had me net 162 km/h max speed (GPS verified).  This was crouched over me tank bag with a backpack on...and as Tony's always happy to remind me I am not exactly a small fellow.

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Posted 2011-10-04 14:37:31

View Postdave_boo, on 2011-10-04 13:30:53, said:

FWIW, the last ride I went on with the Tiger/Sachs club guys had me net 162 km/h max speed (GPS verified).  This was crouched over me tank bag with a backpack on...and as Tony's always happy to remind me I am not exactly a small fellow.

Blimey Dave that must be why ya chain fell off  :rolleyes:


How's the new one.. I hope it's ok  :D



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Posted 2011-10-04 18:19:13

View Postthaicbr, on 2011-10-04 14:37:31, said:

View Postdave_boo, on 2011-10-04 13:30:53, said:

FWIW, the last ride I went on with the Tiger/Sachs club guys had me net 162 km/h max speed (GPS verified).  This was crouched over me tank bag with a backpack on...and as Tony's always happy to remind me I am not exactly a small fellow.

Blimey Dave that must be why ya chain fell off  :rolleyes:


How's the new one.. I hope it's ok  :D



Yeah, that first chain that gave out on the ride was a 'real good' (fake?) EK chain.  This OOh chain held up, although it did get loose (to be expected for a new chain ridden ~600 km).  Actually bigbikebkk and mbox chains went loose on the way back to the houses so I didn't feel too badly.  

I've got an 'x-ring' chain lined up along with some new sprockets.  Still trying to figure out some good chain lube to use as the stuff I bought in Big-C was barely any better than WD-40...

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Posted 2011-10-04 18:40:59

View Postdave_boo, on 2011-10-04 18:19:13, said:

View Postthaicbr, on 2011-10-04 14:37:31, said:

View Postdave_boo, on 2011-10-04 13:30:53, said:

FWIW, the last ride I went on with the Tiger/Sachs club guys had me net 162 km/h max speed (GPS verified).  This was crouched over me tank bag with a backpack on...and as Tony's always happy to remind me I am not exactly a small fellow.

Blimey Dave that must be why ya chain fell off  :rolleyes:


How's the new one.. I hope it's ok  :D



Yeah, that first chain that gave out on the ride was a 'real good' (fake?) EK chain.  This OOh chain held up, although it did get loose (to be expected for a new chain ridden ~600 km).  Actually bigbikebkk and mbox chains went loose on the way back to the houses so I didn't feel too badly.  

I've got an 'x-ring' chain lined up along with some new sprockets.  Still trying to figure out some good chain lube to use as the stuff I bought in Big-C was barely any better than WD-40...

My chain went loose? Really? That's news to me...

I suspect your EK chain was fake or of very low quality, but also running the new chain with such old sprockets likely accelerated the problem since the pitch or the worn sprockets didn't match the pitch of the new chain.

If you can't find a good brand name chain lube out there in the sticks just use gear oil. Not fancy and flings a bit more than name brand lubes, but it's cheap and works just fine.

Ride On!

Tony

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Posted 2011-10-04 18:46:32

View Postdave_boo, on 2011-10-04 13:30:53, said:

FWIW, the last ride I went on with the Tiger/Sachs club guys had me net 162 km/h max speed (GPS verified).  This was crouched over me tank bag with a backpack on...and as Tony's always happy to remind me I am not exactly a small fellow.

But kinda odd that Grant, who's even bigger than you, could still pass you with relative ease on his Ninjette. He's got the Akra exhaust and you've got the powercommander. I think you both have stock gearing and air filters? I think I mentioned to you before that a powercommander on an otherwise stock bike doesn't make much sense. Lose that stock exhaust and load the proper map on your PCV and you should be able to keep up with Grant's Ninjette.

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Posted 2011-10-04 19:03:27

View PostBigBikeBKK, on 2011-10-04 18:40:59, said:

My chain went loose? Really? That's news to me...

I suspect your EK chain was fake or of very low quality, but also running the new chain with such old sprockets likely accelerated the problem since the pitch or the worn sprockets didn't match the pitch of the new chain.

If you can't find a good brand name chain lube out there in the sticks just use gear oil. Not fancy and flings a bit more than name brand lubes, but it's cheap and works just fine.

Ride On!

Tony

It wasn't as tight as I remember seeing it; wasn't as loose as mbox's or mine but IIRC was not keeping the same tension as the previous day...

View PostBigBikeBKK, on 2011-10-04 18:46:32, said:

But kinda odd that Grant, who's even bigger than you, could still pass you with relative ease on his Ninjette. He's got the Akra exhaust and you've got the powercommander. I think you both have stock gearing and air filters? I think I mentioned to you before that a powercommander on an otherwise stock bike doesn't make much sense. Lose that stock exhaust and load the proper map on your PCV and you should be able to keep up with Grant's Ninjette.

Actually he never passed me with relative ease.  In fact we had a friendly stoplight drag race in Phetchabun and I pretty handily (for mid 20 hp bikes lugging around 100 kg guys can be handily) pulled away from him.  I also had a higher top end than he but I can't vouch that he had it pinned.  There were times when I slowed down and waited for everyone to catch up on the Asia Hwy headed north; perhaps that is what you are thinking of?

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Posted 2011-10-04 23:58:16

View Postdave_boo, on 2011-10-04 19:03:27, said:

View PostBigBikeBKK, on 2011-10-04 18:40:59, said:

My chain went loose? Really? That's news to me...

I suspect your EK chain was fake or of very low quality, but also running the new chain with such old sprockets likely accelerated the problem since the pitch or the worn sprockets didn't match the pitch of the new chain.

If you can't find a good brand name chain lube out there in the sticks just use gear oil. Not fancy and flings a bit more than name brand lubes, but it's cheap and works just fine.

Ride On!

Tony

It wasn't as tight as I remember seeing it; wasn't as loose as mbox's or mine but IIRC was not keeping the same tension as the previous day...

You checked the tension of my chain?! Creepy... :ph34r:

View PostBigBikeBKK, on 2011-10-04 18:46:32, said:

But kinda odd that Grant, who's even bigger than you, could still pass you with relative ease on his Ninjette. He's got the Akra exhaust and you've got the powercommander. I think you both have stock gearing and air filters? I think I mentioned to you before that a powercommander on an otherwise stock bike doesn't make much sense. Lose that stock exhaust and load the proper map on your PCV and you should be able to keep up with Grant's Ninjette.

Actually he never passed me with relative ease.  In fact we had a friendly stoplight drag race in Phetchabun and I pretty handily (for mid 20 hp bikes lugging around 100 kg guys can be handily) pulled away from him.  I also had a higher top end than he but I can't vouch that he had it pinned.  There were times when I slowed down and waited for everyone to catch up on the Asia Hwy headed north; perhaps that is what you are thinking of?

Heh heh, you'd like to think so, wouldn't you... :whistling: Grant will have a good chuckle over this one, but up to him if he wants to share how it really went down ;)



 


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