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[Bard]

Already one in Thailand with Yoshi...

Very nice looking can there ithailian, guess you love the sound from it as well

Tony when the &^%&^ are you coming back, so much track days and trips, tuning and fun and you're hiding in ice cold Europe?

Cheers Bard

[dave_boo]

Bard, on 2009-01-07 19:54:05, said:

Already one in Thailand with Yoshi...

Very nice looking can there ithailian, guess you love the sound from it as well

Tony when the &^%&^ are you coming back, so much track days and trips, tuning and fun and you're hiding in ice cold Europe?

Cheers Bard

Darn, guess I won't be the first;  I've already got four confirmed orders for the brake lines, which I assume are for both front and rear, but don't know what colours Tony wants.

I've also had PM's about the K&N filtre, K&N has a part number KA-2508 for their air filtre, fatbikez doesn't have it in stock-yet.  The oil filtre listed on their site is the proper one for the '08 Ninja though.

[BigBikeBKK]

dave_boo, on 2009-01-08 01:12:47, said:

I've also had PM's about the K&N filtre, K&N has a part number KA-2508 for their air filtre, fatbikez doesn't have it in stock-yet.  The oil filtre listed on their site is the proper one for the '08 Ninja though.

Pardon my ignorance Dave, but what's the difference between the K&N oil filter and stock?

Brake lines in black of course

Edited by BigBikeBKK, 2009-01-08 00:26:52.

[BigBikeBKK]

Bard, on 2009-01-08 00:54:05, said:

Tony when the &^%&^ are you coming back, so much track days and trips, tuning and fun and you're hiding in ice cold Europe?

Man Bard, I tell you, this European "holiday" is getting LONG and I am getting homesick! Having fun here in the "old country" but looking forward to coming home in a couple more weeks.

Off to Chamonix tomorrow- that should be fun!

I'll be back in Thailand on the 19th and I'll give you a call then so that we can hook up for the custom exhaust work and special service at your "secret soi"!     

[dave_boo]

BigBikeBKK, on 2009-01-07 20:25:59, said:

dave_boo, on 2009-01-08 01:12:47, said:

I've also had PM's about the K&N filtre, K&N has a part number KA-2508 for their air filtre, fatbikez doesn't have it in stock-yet. The oil filtre listed on their site is the proper one for the '08 Ninja though.

Pardon my ignorance Dave, but what's the difference between the K&N oil filter and stock?

Brake lines in black of course

Performance wise I am making no claims; but K&N is made to a pretty high standard and they should last for a longer time than the stock ones.  If there was the stainless steel models offered, that would be the one I would buy.  If you don't know what I'm talking about there's a company, Pure Power, that offers 304 stainless steel oil filters that filtre down to 35 microns.  Obviously rewashable, reusable, and much more durable than stock.

Is that black lines and fittings?

[Anthony17]

Yes KN makes a filter, I hope he will fit

I found the specication of this part number

KA-2508 Product Specifications
Filter Re-Oiling Amount: 0.34 oz (10 ml)
Height: 0.625 in (16 mm)
Outside Length: 8.25 in (210 mm)
Outside Width: 5.375 in (137 mm)
Product Box Length: 7.72 in (196 mm)
Product Box Width: 1.75 in (44 mm)
Product Box Height: 9.69 in (246 mm)

[kev_o]

To follow up from my misplaced post on the Yoshi, payment by credit card, no problems. I also ordered a K&N filter but when it arrived I realized it was for an old model, never got round to stripping the airbox to see if it fitted but in reading the other posts I doubt it will. When I was last in Bangkok I dropped in to TP motorcycle on the corner of Rama 1, got a Puig dark tinted wind shield, the guy there opened his laptop to show all the parts he could get, reckoned they were all available within half an hour of sending someone out to pick them up, he had a rear hugger, various carbon bits, braided lines, footrests and tail tidy to show, the prices he quoted were pretty steep though. Cheers.

[dave_boo]

kev_o, on 2009-01-08 00:20:33, said:

To follow up from my misplaced post on the Yoshi, payment by credit card, no problems. I also ordered a K&N filter but when it arrived I realized it was for an old model, never got round to stripping the airbox to see if it fitted but in reading the other posts I doubt it will. When I was last in Bangkok I dropped in to TP motorcycle on the corner of Rama 1, got a Puig dark tinted wind shield, the guy there opened his laptop to show all the parts he could get, reckoned they were all available within half an hour of sending someone out to pick them up, he had a rear hugger, various carbon bits, braided lines, footrests and tail tidy to show, the prices he quoted were pretty steep though. Cheers.

Congrats on the Yoshi; almost makes me want to get a Nojima. This ebay seller has a dynograph up that indicates HUGE gains in power when revved out--not a great increase (only ~2.5 hp or +9%) where the stocker putts out, but it is at least on par with Bard's Area-P when you look to the max HP (~5 hp or +18%). That essentially negates drivetrain loss and would get your rearwheel horsepower to match the bike's rating.


(p.s. he also has the Ohlins rear shock for the Ninja 250).

**edit**
Here's Yoshi's graph:


and Area-P's:


And the Two Brothers which can't be directly compared since it is based on speed rather than RPM (but it looks like it peaks just shy of Nojima's).
So, yes, it looks like the Nojima has the greatest gains.

But price to performance is as follows (using carbon fibre-with the exception of the Nojima):
Two Brothers: 31.3 HP 449.99 USD (14.38 USD/HP)
Area-P: 30.72 HP  495.00 USD  (16.11 USD/HP)
Nojima: 31.5 599.99 USD  (19.05 USD/HP)
Yoshimura: 30.37 600.00 USD  (19.76 USD/HP)

So Two Brothers is a fabulous buy and Yoshi is a sinkhole for your money, especially considering that it comes dead last in the HP race.

Edited by dave_boo, 2009-01-08 07:23:05.

[Ithailian]

I' haven't noticed any increase in power to be honest, but maybe it's there.  I guess a dyno will tell.  The decibel factor is through the roof though.  The factory claims a +4 HP increase with the slip on (I didn't get the full exhaust).  Full system is +7 I think ... but, they didn't have a clue about the fuel injected models.   I'm getting occasional 'pops' out the muffler when I back off the throttle.  Kind of like backfire, but never on the power, only when I'm off it.  I can still hear the high pitched spin up of the engine and that sounds perfectly normal (same as before), so the popping must be the result of the very limited back pressure.  I'm dying to see if there are flames coming out the tail pipe.  I've had crowds gather at stop lights to check out my ZX10R (not!).  haha.  sounds like one.


PS - Please count me in for the upgraded brake lines.  Black with Green Fittings.  Thanks!

Edited by Ithailian, 2009-01-08 07:22:43.

[dave_boo]

Ithailian, on 2009-01-08 03:19:31, said:

I' haven't noticed any increase in power to be honest, but maybe it's there. I guess a dyno will tell. The decibel factor is through the roof though. The factory claims a +4 HP increase with the slip on (I didn't get the full exhaust). Full system is +7 I think ... but, they didn't have a clue about the fuel injected models. I'm getting occasional 'pops' out the muffler when I back off the throttle. Kind of like backfire, but never on the power, only when I'm off it. I can still hear the high pitched spin up of the engine and that sounds perfectly normal (same as before), so the popping must be the result of the very limited back pressure. I'm dying to see if there are flames coming out the tail pipe. I've had crowds gather at stop lights to check out my ZX10R (not!). haha. sounds like one.


PS - Please count me in for the upgraded brake lines. Black with Green Fittings. Thanks!

You sure are right about it looking great; and if the sound is inline with what I've heard other Yoshis roaring like I'm sure you're grinning like Dave Chepelle after hitting his steamroller everytime you fire it up.  It was in the old Ninja thread that we talked about the 'backfire'.

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Yeah, backfiring (although if we wanted to get technical it's actually afterfiring). Is more common than people realise. Usually it's an indication that the timing is wrong. That's what I would assume (maybe incorrectly!) was the cause of your cold start backfiring. If the timing gets retarded due to the temperature, it can fire after the exhaust valve opens and the flame can travel down your pipe until it burns all of the fuel.

Backfiring can be caused by the engine actually running rich. When you shut off the throttle the butterfly (I believe that's the style that the Ninja uses) valve shuts in the intake tract. However, it takes a wee bit of time for the injectors to stop dumping that load of fuel in. This dumps cool fuel into the chamber which is oxygen starved and not burnt until the oxygen level is increased (i.e. at the end of the exhaust tract). It isn't as big of a problem on engines that use a Throttle Positioning Sensor since the ECU should read the current and reduce the amount injected. I'd be surprised if Kawasaki didn't have one on the Ninja, but perhaps someone who's still in Thailand could trace their throttle cable to its termination and see if there's a sensor attached to there with wiring that comes out?

(Apologies for referencing myself)

And I've got your part of the order added to my list.

Edited by dave_boo, 2009-01-08 09:19:27.

[Anthony17]

Nojima is very good looking.

For the dynograph, to compare these full exhaust, it would have been tested on the same dyno to reed the right dynocurv. I don't think the dyno are adjusted as another. Maybe on a dyno the yosh will give 30.1HP and with another 29.6HP so for me these curvs can't be compared.

[Bard]

Give me a bell when you get back Tony, and we can chop the can and have the "ss" trip while waiting.

Cheers Bard

[tuktukracer]

Big thanks to Bard who installed my area p full carbon system (shorty not quiet core).  Top bloke!

The shorty is very, very loud, which Bard will attest to.

I kinda wish I got the quiet core.  I think my neighbours do as well.

Other than the noise, which is the most notable difference, the torque has also been greatly improved.  I can easily pass cars on the highway from 100-120 KMH staying in 6th gear, which before would have required me shifting down to 5th.

The machining place that transplanted the bung for my lambda sensor were extremely professional and who'd believe that it only cost 200BHT.  I guess it was a little more expensive if you factor in the grown-up fun that we had in the secret soi that we hung out in whilst they carried out the job ;-)

Defo want to get rid of these stock tyres and into some Bridgestone BT90's.  Had a couple of scarey moments with the stock tyres both on the road and track.

I love the little ninja but cruising on highways and doing any type of long distance is a bit of a bore lake, personally speaking.  I really feel that I'm flogging the little thing to death doing 140KMH and if you get a gust of wind you do get blown around (not the stablest of bikes).  Ok, my 92 kilo chassis (me not the bike) doesn't help but I'm inclined to do the same as Bard - keep the ninja for the track (where it really comes into it's own) and then possibly look at purchasing a larger bike such as the ER6 or FZ6 a little later on (finances & missus permitting).

Cheers,

Simon

[Bard]

Thanks Simon,

Like I said to my wife I'm glad I'm not married to me, but maybe there is something worth while makes me think so haha

Are you up for the BBQ tomorrow, please bring your misses and happy spirit plus hopefully you join us on the track on Sunday?

Cheers Bard

[Anthony17]

Is the Kn filter available in Thailande because in Europe we can't have it for the moment. It arrives on March not before.

I've made that for my ninja what do you think about it? [IMG=http://img526.imageshack.us/img526/5697/nerhenausenahthonyal2.jpg][/IMG]

Edited by Anthony17, 2009-01-12 02:29:03.

[Bard]

Tested out my absolute top speed on the Ninja I got now and that was 182 km/h on the speedo, I was laying on the tank to achieve it and Trent was behind me on his flying fridge and confirming the speed. That is not bad at all, can imagine with the new sprocket I will manage a tad more maybe.

Cheers Bard

[Anthony17]

Have you seen my new speedo [IMG=http://img526.imageshack.us/img526/5697/nerhenausenahthonyal2.jpg][/IMG]

[Bard]

Yes saw the instrument hack, looks very nice indeed. Well done Anthony

Cheers Bard

[dotcom]

I thought they revved to 17,000?

[Bard]

Actually the rev limiter hits at 14,500 rpm

Cheers Bard

[dotcom]

So clearly that's the wrong tacho face.

[Anthony17]

dotcom, on 2009-01-13 20:50:12, said:

So clearly that's the wrong tacho face.

Mine a wrong tacho?

[thaicbr]

Anthony. it's the wrong amount of red if the rev limiter comes in at 14,500. should be green up to about 11,000 then into the yellow up to 12,500. then start the red. also on the temp gauge should be less green and a bit more yellow.
They look ok though, personally i would stick with stock cos i like to see them clearly (so maybe a white outline around the numbers). Allan

[Anthony17]

Ok but it's juste a style I was borring when I saw the stock. I understand what you mean bu I know all the informations and red yellow green don't mean anything it's just to be good looking.

[Bard]

Fitted my new tires today, and WOW how much better the bike is now folks. Got Pirelli Dragon Supercorsa Pro ZR set 110/70-17 front and 150/60-17 rear, I love it the tires is so sticky it's incredible. Well worth the upgrade.

Cheers Bard