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With Less Money, Thaksin Lives A Costly Life Abroad


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#51 animatic

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Posted 2009-01-23 12:24:55

He is living in the lap of luxury relative to most ANY of our positions,
and whining about it endlessly it seems.
4-5 mil a year... rather profligate by most ANY standard.

Why not rent a house or buy one?
Surely less than $500 a day to do that WITH servants.

There are some pretty direct attacks in this interview too...
Preaching to his own choir. End of story.

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Posted 2009-01-23 12:49:02

View PostPlus, on 2009-01-23 12:45:10, said:

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gotta feel sorry for the guy

Difficult to feel sympathy for the guy who doesn't admit he has done anything wrong.

Best polititian Thailand has ever had.

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Posted 2009-01-23 12:53:08

If he was so good, why is he sitting in a shitty hotel in Dubai, whining about his lost fortune?

#54 ozinthailand

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Posted 2009-01-23 14:08:00

View PostScott, on 2009-01-22 19:40:09, said:

Yes, he should come back and face the music. Too bad he won't have to share a cell with some of the yellow-shirted wretches that seem to be immune from prosecution.


[MB] face what music........?????? A corrupt political system, that is run by a junta military that has trumped up charges against him.... geeee that makes a lot of sense.... this country was far better off under thaksin. it has gone down the toilet since he has left !

#55 animatic

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Posted 2009-01-23 14:10:08

View Postpammy123, on 2009-01-23 12:49:02, said:

View PostPlus, on 2009-01-23 12:45:10, said:

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gotta feel sorry for the guy

Difficult to feel sympathy for the guy who doesn't admit he has done anything wrong.

Best polititian Thailand has ever had.
Of course one must allow for the screamingly LOW quality bar
set in that grouping of personages... Best of breed?

A Great Politician deflects all the negatives to others, and past himself.
A Great Politician keeps his enemies close and on edge, but under control.
A Great Politician KNOWS how far he can push things, and doesn't exceed that limit.
A Great Politician is a shrewd judge of character in his subordinates. Then leaves them to work.
A Great Politician does enough REAL GOOD to warrant keeping the job a long time.
A Great Politician leaves a legacy of peace and prosperity sans social divisions.
A Great Politician admists he has made mistakes tries to correct them and rises ABOVE them.
A Great Politician is missed after he is gone often even by his opposition.

Ain't seen one lately 'round here....

#56 animatic

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Posted 2009-01-23 14:16:53

View Postozinthailand, on 2009-01-23 14:08:00, said:

View PostScott, on 2009-01-22 19:40:09, said:

Yes, he should come back and face the music. Too bad he won't have to share a cell with some of the yellow-shirted wretches that seem to be immune from prosecution.


[MB] face what music........?????? A corrupt political system, that is run by a junta military that has trumped up charges against him.... geeee that makes a lot of sense.... this country was far better off under thaksin. it has gone down the toilet since he has left !
Dude, he shot his own foot in broad daylight, breaking laws on the books before the junta
and doing it with high arrogance. There was no need of trumping up any charges,
he did it all himself from arrogance.

I won't debate that the WILL to act on the charges was  made greater by political circumstances.
He set those circumstances in motion himself too. But the charges were totally legit, and of his own doing.
He predicated his own downfall with his own mouth and actions.

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Posted 2009-01-23 14:31:30

View Postwarfie, on 2009-01-22 19:16:24, said:

tsk tsk... how can he possibly live on less than 5,000,000 per year? poor guy... Man 'o the people an' all... maybe all them rich Isaan farmers should have a whip-'round to raise some decent pocket change for 'im

The profit he made from the sale of Man City alone would keep him going for quite a while and he doesnt say  he had to sell as he was deemed to be an "unfit and proper person" by the English FA. More of the Thaksin rhetoric trying to get people to feel sorry for him.  






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Posted 2009-01-23 15:35:17

He sold his Shincorp shares (and those of his maid and driver also belonging to him together with son/daughter shares) to concentrate on his political role and stop the critics who could argue he was eating from two dishes at the same time.

That backfired, unlucky man  :o  (he almost got away with it)

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Posted 2009-01-23 15:52:20

Regardless of what he did, Thailand was a much better place during his time as PM.

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Posted 2009-01-23 15:53:48

View Postozinthailand, on 2009-01-23 14:08:00, said:

trumped up charges against him.... geeee that makes a lot of sense.... this country was far better off under thaksin. it has gone down the toilet since he has left !
Trumped up charges???!!!! My goodness me, what deluded planet are you on?

Country gone down the toilet???!!! Don't think so - this country seems to have gone on operating perfectly ok since he left. Yes there has been political uncertainty and disruptions from protests, but all that stems from your main man himself.

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Posted 2009-01-23 15:55:58

View PostBWFC, on 2009-01-23 15:52:20, said:

Regardless of what he did, Thailand was a much better place during his time as PM.
The point is that you can't disregard it.

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Posted 2009-01-23 16:08:14

View PostBWFC, on 2009-01-23 15:52:20, said:

Regardless of what he did, Thailand was a much better place during his time as PM.

It depends how you define better place. That would have to include no respect for certain democratic ideasls such as th most basic of human rights, the right to trial and everyone is innocent until found otherwise in a court.

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Posted 2009-01-23 16:20:05

View Postpammy123, on 2009-01-23 05:49:02, said:

View PostPlus, on 2009-01-23 12:45:10, said:

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gotta feel sorry for the guy

Difficult to feel sympathy for the guy who doesn't admit he has done anything wrong.

Best polititian Thailand has ever had.

Best corrupted politician Thailand has ever had.  :o

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Posted 2009-01-23 16:34:12

View PostBWFC, on 2009-01-23 15:52:20, said:

Regardless of what he did, Thailand was a much better place during his time as PM.

From what I remember, Thailand used to better before he came to power, was still OK for a while when he was in Power and the whole mess we are in right now, is a direct result of Thaksin's "excellent skills as a politician"! The Dems built up Thailand after the last economic meltdown, Thakky came along with promises and direct rewards, took over and just got too greedy and power hungry. As for everyone condemning the army for staging the coup, who else would have helped getting rid of a government that was becoming more and more of  a totalitarian regime?

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Posted 2009-01-23 16:48:20

There have been a lots of doubts about the article in a Japanese newspaper about Toxin stay in Dubai or not.

Well I have my doubts also. He seems to pay 500 US$ a night for an suite in a 5 star hotel even its not amongst the best ones. IMHO this seems rather a low price, considering that a standard room in a 5 star hotel cost already about 300 US$ in Dubai. Based on that and the fact that nobody can give us the correct link so I have serious doubts if this article was ever written.

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Posted 2009-01-23 17:04:42

View PostSandstone Art, on 2009-01-22 19:04:21, said:

Poor Thaksin. That is a very misserable amount of US$4-US$5 million a year compared to what he has illy accumulated.

eeer that is about US 13,000 per day and the hotel room is 500 us wonder where the rest goes.......
or are these more untruths from the king of lies

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Posted 2009-01-23 17:12:58

View Postmc2, on 2009-01-23 11:00:37, said:

gotta feel sorry for the guy, to be backstabbed and betrayed by so many people . reminds me of the war in iraq , it sounded good at the time and many people were exctited at the smell of blood but look at the mess down the road.

Gotta wonder why so many people closest to him turned against him.  Chamlong, Sondhi, Sonthi, Newin, even his wife divorced him.  What does that tell you about his character?  All you self confessed Thaksin lovers should really be considering this, maybe you wouldn't be loving him so much if you spent some time with him and found out what he's really like.

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Posted 2009-01-23 17:39:02

[quote name='oceano' post='2481844' date='2009-01-22 17:48:39'][quote name='OriginalPoster' post='2481837' date='2009-01-22 17:44:58'][quote name='oceano' post='2481824' date='2009-01-22 18:36:34'][quote name='TAWP' post='2481793' date='2009-01-22 17:20:11'][quote name='oceano' post='2481783' date='2009-01-22 17:14:29']My english in not good, some people insult me for that.....everyday.
If they use their good english for find the real news and the fake news like me is better for all.
Taksin is in SINGAPORE...use internet dont loose you time whit me.

ciao[/quote]

Are you saying that Thaksin ave been in Singapore for the last week and you have sources that prove that? Bring 'em then?

The more accurate info we can get, the better...
[/quote]
my source is irc...internet relay chat...you can find all you want...and beliveme many time they said all the true about something then the newspaper...
many times i see that.
Use internet is not only look the 1st page of google.....
Also what you think is true in your post before...never had a confirmation but you belive "the nation " like gold...
[/quote]

Must be true then, people on the internet wouldn't lie.
[/quote]
less then the news paper....so do you find this news somewere or not?
Show to me the news in the japan site...were is it????????????
do you find this journalist or not?
i had show to you that is a fake....
what do you want more?
take care
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Actually, there are a couple of Indians where I work in Bangkok and they have said Thaksin has been in New Delhi lately. There have allegedly been reports in the Indian newspapers about this - I haven't seen any (would love to). I suspect there is a far stronger case of him being there than Singapore.  
In terms of questioning if this story is true. It's perhaps understandable given the sort of tricks Thaks and his people have employed before.. the story about the Bahaman government being happy to have him live there was a total fabrication, I believe. And was exposed as such. The Nation covered that (Post also, I think). However in this case, I have the feeling Asahi (or Asahi Shimbun) had or used to have an office in one of The Nation buildings.
  In terms of why Oceano couldn't find the story in a search, there are probably a number of reasons for that, including that newspaper groups often don't do that till several days after the story has run.  

It just shows you how everything about this man is like a mirage - lies, distortion, etc - it's a game of Chinese mirrors with him. Although we're getting more and more info that suggests that The Nation story about him a few weeks back that he was down to his last 500 million USD may be close to the truth. There has been a lot of comment from journalists here that he has sent very little dough to Pheu Thai and red shirts recently. That is probably one of the reasons for the political calm. Thing is, I think he still wants to rock the boat, because he has his big assets case starting in March (on whether the 2-billion USD 'frozen' by the govt should be confiscated), so his people are lobbying Asean to say the government is illegitimate, etc.

The sad part is Abhisit has run like a child from the Rohingyas' scandal, and you get the feeling he'll play the same tricks in regard to prosecutions of the PAD ..Pravit wrote a column in The Nation on Tuesday, I think, talking about the disparity between Abhisit's words and his actions, and that's could be the key question of his time in power. Well educated, eloquent, but hollow and without the balls to take a gutsy stand. The Rohingyas' case is making him look like a monkey, if you read the latest BBC report. And he's completely ignored very strong concerns about Hmong "refugees" - dozens of whom reportedly have bullet wounds (perhaps the best evidence of persecution by the Lao regime) .. saying they will return the 5000 in Phetchabun by May. Truth is they have major concerns re illegal migrants being trafficked here, but the way they have dealt with all aspects of this for years is hopeless, sadly. And aside from the 500 Rohingya who may have drowned after allegedly being towed out to sea, there are probably hundreds more suffering untold misery all around the country.
Meanwhile, all Thaksin does is moan about the cost of having to live in expensive hotels because he's on the run from the law for a series of allegations that most people know have substance. You have to think, in the end, he is one very self-centred piece of trash, who could use a few years in a Rohingyan vessel to bring him down to a level where he's human again.

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Posted 2009-01-23 17:51:43

View PostSiripon, on 2009-01-22 16:03:21, said:

He could save a lot on his expenses by coming back and serving his prison sentence. Both the accommodation and food would be free.

I think your opinion is typical of a 'mob mentality'..... i would suggest you stop being jealous of this guy along with the rest of the mob, he did a great job for thailand.... this country was far better off under Thaksin,,,,,,,

#70 TAWP

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Posted 2009-01-23 17:53:28

View Postozinthailand, on 2009-01-23 17:51:43, said:

View PostSiripon, on 2009-01-22 16:03:21, said:

He could save a lot on his expenses by coming back and serving his prison sentence. Both the accommodation and food would be free.

I think your opinion is typical of a 'mob mentality'..... i would suggest you stop being jealous of this guy along with the rest of the mob, he did a great job for thailand.... this country was far better off under Thaksin,,,,,,,

It doesn't matter how many times you are gonna post it in this thread, it doesn't make it any more true...

#71 BODYholic

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Posted 2009-01-23 19:00:28

Your inability to locate a person or a person's name from a website of where he/she works, is not an evidence that the person does not exist.
I work for an MNC in Singapore with a few thousands employees worldwide. I can't find my name in my company website. I tell you I am fake. I do not exist. Are you happy now?

I am bored too. By you.

View Postoceano, on 2009-01-23 02:57:47, said:

again?
no link at http://www.asahi.com/english/
him dont work for them as journalist...
im bored
dont show me research..
show the link to the news in that site of that journalist!

Edited by BODYholic, 2009-01-23 19:01:45.


#72 OriginalPoster

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Posted 2009-01-23 19:10:16

View PostBODYholic, on 2009-01-23 20:00:28, said:

Your inability to locate a person or a person's name from a website of where he/she works, is not an evidence that the person does not exist.
I work for an MNC in Singapore with a few thousands employees worldwide. I can't find my name in my company website. I tell you I am fake. I do not exist. Are you happy now?

I am bored too. By you.


The premise that absence of proof is equivalent to proof of absence is central to the promotion of most conspiracy theories.  The world wouldn't be half as much fun if we disallowed that line of reasoning.

Edited by OriginalPoster, 2009-01-23 19:11:27.


#73 mc2

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Posted 2009-01-23 19:13:50

View Postballpoint, on 2009-01-23 18:12:58, said:

View Postmc2, on 2009-01-23 11:00:37, said:

gotta feel sorry for the guy, to be backstabbed and betrayed by so many people . reminds me of the war in iraq , it sounded good at the time and many people were exctited at the smell of blood but look at the mess down the road.

Gotta wonder why so many people closest to him turned against him.  Chamlong, Sondhi, Sonthi, Newin, even his wife divorced him.  What does that tell you about his character?

only that he once put trust in the wrong people. his biggest mistake was appointing general sondhi as the army chief. Has he not made this critical mistake, things may have ended up better for Thailand, who knows.

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Posted 2009-01-23 19:46:45

View PostOriginalPoster, on 2009-01-23 20:10:16, said:

The  premise that absence of proof is equivalent to proof of absence is  central to the promotion of most conspiracy theories. The world  wouldn't be half as much fun if we disallowed that line of  reasoning.

I am not here to contest if the interview was genuine or otherwise. We will, then, give the conspiracy theory a break.

But his incapacity to find a (wrong) name in the internet is a proof of nothing. Period.

Cheers. :o

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Posted 2009-01-23 20:38:16

looking at the class as half full: Pojameon is now single and loaded. I've been shopping in Siam Paragon recently and eventually we will meet. I will be the shoulder for her to cry on, the wind beneath her wings, her sanitary towel because I know one day she'll replace my mother's buffalo.



 


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