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[chuchok]

tuktukmike, on 2005-02-09 01:04:02, said:

Hi all, im back im back at last,

Some pile of crap sent me an e mail with a worm that destroyed my computer settings and programmes.

We searched the house and as i said before we just moved from england, so we went through boxes and boxes of our stuff and could not find the recovery discs we needed. then today i went into draw in bedroom and found it, so at last i am on line again.

Car has a problem, they have damaged the front end and also ripped off the exhaust system, this was caused they say by a flat tyre and as a result the underside came into contact with the ramps. what happend next was that they had to clear the ramp so used a forklift to remove car (yes i know i should have sent by container).

They wanted me to sign that i accept car in this condition which i refused as i have shipping insurance and want someone to pay for repairs. so now in the hands of lawyers in BKK and also trying to deal with company in england.

Should i hope have resalution in the next week fingers crossed.

mike.

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You can still sign for the car and get delivery without prejudice to any legal procedings.

Sign for it damaged, noting EXACTLY what the damage is and take photos. Most lawyers know bugger all about marine insurance etc.You should also ask for a claims surveyor from the shipping company to inspect the car with you or your representative on the wharf.

The first thing you should do is take the photos and a estimated cost of repair (Written Quote) to the freight company and your insurance company.

RORO is normally the best way to transport a vehicle.You just had some bad luck.

The shipping company will claim on the Port, as they are responsible for the damage etc.

If the damage is serious however, get a Marine Surveyor to check out the car on the wharf,before you have it delivered..

Edited by chuchok, 2005-02-09 01:21:38.

[BAF]

tuktukmike, on 2005-02-08 19:04:02, said:

By the way where is the italian prat who claims they invented tuk-tuks

He is still here waiting for your answer to his last two unanswered replies and until you finally give out names, dates and photos like he has long done, and since you are calling him an italian prat, he feels fully entitled to call you the british W I N D B A G in whatever thread he should stumble on you.

Edited by BAF, 2005-02-09 08:20:53.

[ExNewMex]

Curious if you ever got hold of your car and if all the fees held true to the initial promised. Also, I would like to know some good shipping companies/agents that handle this sort of thing. This being Thailand, I would think that maybe some are better at sorting out auto imports than others.

Thanks,
ExNewMex

[maprao]

Totally confused now came here for definition of "samlor" because Thailand legal basics says:

Auto Insurance
The Motor Accident Victims Protection Act B.E. 2535 (A.D. 1992) made third-party motor
insurance compulsory for all vehicle owners except those for motorbikes, modified farm
trucks, and modified samlors.
Under this Act, all owners are required to obtain insurance for injuries or death caused by

from: http://www.tillekeandgibbins.com/Publicati...sics/index.html

So the tuk tuk I am buying does it need insurance in thailand or not? Can I safely assume as TUK TUK is bigger than bike but smaller than a "farm truck" it does not need insurance as it is classed as a "samlor" . How about registration?

aaaahhhhhhhh! help

[dr_Pat_Pong]

ExNewMex, on 2005-03-30 22:17:51, said:

Curious if you ever got hold of your car and if all the fees held true to the initial promised. Also, I would like to know some good shipping companies/agents that handle this sort of thing. This being Thailand, I would think that maybe some are better at sorting out auto imports than others.

Thanks,
ExNewMex

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It is 4 months since ole Mike said a word

[Khutan]

dr_Pat_Pong, on 2005-06-03 05:12:04, said:

It is 4 months since ole Mike said a word

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It was an intersting thread.

I am planning a 2 month holiday in Australia with my wife. The plan was to take the Pick-up to Australia and drive it on the Bangkok plates for the 2 months before putting it back on the boat to come home. I spoke to one of the shipping companies I regularly used and I got quoted 24,000 baht for the return journey of 4-6 weeks each way plus insurance. That being about $800 AUD, I think its a good idea, as it will cost me a alot more to rent a car in Australia for 2 months.

From my understanding, 3 months is the limit you can drive a car with foreign plates, so I will be well under that limit.

The other main reason it I want to make some major modifications to the vehicle and change the rolling chassis to a Turbo Diesel Patrol 4WD rolling chassis. I don't see this as much of a problem as the Frontier here is only a Cab / Tray on chassis assembly, so the Tray can be unbolted, and the cabin can be changed over as well.

[dr_Pat_Pong]

and park the bugger wherever you like. The Thai letters will be beyong the parking inspectors

[Khutan]

dr_Pat_Pong, on 2005-06-03 09:15:17, said:

and park the bugger wherever you like. The Thai letters will be beyong the parking inspectors

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Not to mention Speed Camera's, Red light Camera's

And what would the NSW police do with my Thai Licence an an international permit ?

[dr_Pat_Pong]

mattnich, on 2005-06-03 09:30:42, said:

dr_Pat_Pong, on 2005-06-03 09:15:17, said:

and park the bugger wherever you like. The Thai letters will be beyong the parking inspectors

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Not to mention Speed Camera's, Red light Camera's

And what would the NSW police do with my Thai Licence an an international permit ?

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No demerit points

[Thetyim]

Be careful Matt, Thailand has some strange vehicular laws.

You say some major alterations.
Under Thai regulations a pick-up MUST have leaf rear suspension.
If you change it to coils, when you re-enter LOS it may not be a pick-up any more. A possible cause of trouble.

I have no idea what you are planning but it sounds like a chassis swop.
Errr, not a good idea. The chassis number will be checked when you re-enter.

[Crossy]

They check chassis and engine numbers when you renew your tax.

Could be a problem when you have a new chassis and engine

[Thetyim]

"They check chassis and engine numbers when you renew your tax."

No they don't

Only when you change owners

Edited by Thetyim, 2005-06-03 19:01:10.

[Thetyim]

Sorry posted twice

Edited by Thetyim, 2005-06-03 18:56:35.

[Crossy]

Thetyim, on 2005-06-03 12:50:03, said:

"They check chassis and engine numbers when you renew your tax."

No they don't

Only when you change owners

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Er, did with me, and no, I didn't change owners. Maybe I just went to the wrong place. They also did a (cursory) emissions test and a 'inspection' (they drove over the pit, no one in the pit).

TiT, as usual

Edited by Crossy, 2005-06-03 19:20:12.

[Thetyim]

Cannot understand that Crossy.

I must have renewed the tax about twenty times and never had an inspection. Sometimes I went there in a different car as well.

[lost_in_isaan]

regardless.. would you really want to come back to thailand and find yourself spread bare at the mercy of the thai customs officials.

i would check very carefully what the regulations are if it was my truck.

[Crossy]

My stepson also found it odd (he was with me) lots of discussion but no actual reasons.

I wonder if there were any rule adjustments when they introduced the idea that the tax and compulsory insurance have to cover the same period.

Anyone else had a similar experience???

Edited by Crossy, 2005-06-03 20:40:48.

[Butterfly]

tuktukmike, on 2005-02-08 18:04:02, said:

Hi all, im back im back at last,

Some pile of crap sent me an e mail with a worm that destroyed my computer settings and programmes.

We searched the house and as i said before we just moved from england, so we went through boxes and boxes of our stuff and could not find the recovery discs we needed. then today i went into draw in bedroom and found it, so at last i am on line again.

Car has a problem, they have damaged the front end and also ripped off the exhaust system, this was caused they say by a flat tyre and as a result the underside came into contact with the ramps. what happend next was that they had to clear the ramp so used a forklift to remove car (yes i know i should have sent by container).

They wanted me to sign that i accept car in this condition which i refused as i have shipping insurance and want someone to pay for repairs. so now in the hands of lawyers in BKK and also trying to deal with company in england.

Should i hope have resalution in the next week fingers crossed.

mike.

By the way where is the italian prat who claims they invented tuk-tuks,

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Always use container. Ro-ro is very risky for cars. Damages done by trafficker or personel or illegals who use your car as their home for the transit

Container is more expensive but it is safer. Always have a broken window, stolen parts, something broke from the ro-ro

How much was your fee ? you initially claimed it to be around 60,000 baht and then it went to 120,000 baht !!!

how much was your original car cost ? if it was less than 10,000 dollars then you are paying almost 50% of tax including agents fee etc... that's quite a lot.

[bubblemonkey]

I had an idea as I have been wanting to import mu Saab to LOS for a while.

If I bought an older Mazda 323,which'd cost me about 500 pounds in the UK. Then 80% tax on that value would be very little and 80% on import.

Does this mean it would cost me arount 2 grand to import it?(or maybe less).

Even a 9 year old Mazda 323 in Los would set you back around 3000 pounds.

[Thetyim]

Bubble,

The import duty/tax is based upon THEIR valuation of the vehicle not what you paid for it.

Also where are the shipping costs in your calculation

[jl_333]

Mike,

Has there been any update on your situation? I've just stumpled onto this post (and onto this site as a matter of fact) and I'm highly interested if everything has worked out okay.

I am also looking into importing (my 996 911) and hearing your story actually makes the importing process relatively painless (with the exception of your shipping damage)...

Do you mind if you can forward me the contact info for your agent? I would love to get in touch with him/her.

Thanks so much.

jon

[Butterfly]

jl_333, on 2005-08-31 19:39:22, said:

Mike,

Has there been any update on your situation? I've just stumpled onto this post (and onto this site as a matter of fact) and I'm highly interested if everything has worked out okay.

I am also looking into importing (my 996 911) and hearing your story actually makes the importing process relatively painless (with the exception of your shipping damage)...

Do you mind if you can forward me the contact info for your agent?  I would love to get in touch with him/her.

Thanks so much.

jon

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the guy failed to update us on his situation and I think it's safe to say that it probably was a disaster. You dont want to brag on the Internet when you get taken to the cleaner.

[dr_Pat_Pong]

That's my assumption too

[Digger]

Butterfly, on 2005-09-01 09:18:23, said:

jl_333, on 2005-08-31 19:39:22, said:

Mike,

Has there been any update on your situation? I've just stumpled onto this post (and onto this site as a matter of fact) and I'm highly interested if everything has worked out okay.

I am also looking into importing (my 996 911) and hearing your story actually makes the importing process relatively painless (with the exception of your shipping damage)...

Do you mind if you can forward me the contact info for your agent?  I would love to get in touch with him/her.

Thanks so much.

jon

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the guy failed to update us on his situation and I think it's safe to say that it probably was a disaster. You dont want to brag on the Internet when you get taken to the cleaner.

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Probably not a disaster for the head of customs who as we speak is on his way home (the long way) driving some farangs car and will be for the next 6 months or so...... Oh hang on, wasnt this the Ford Scorpio thread??? - Sorry in which case its likely in the breakers yard being torn apart for scrap with the proceeds going to the same customs guy.

[dr_Pat_Pong]

Same disaster outcome