Posted 2009-06-11 19:03:10
 TheVinylMan, on 2009-06-08 23:14:38, said:
Congrats on getting your pride and joy over here........... It would be interesting to keep the thread going as things progress with the restoration....... I for one would like to read how things are progressing, and i am sure there are others who would as well.
PS I believe that Rimmer Bros , Lincoln will send parts international.
I placed the car with Tr-Bitz mainly as they were willing to avoid VAT - Rimmers were not.
Tr-Bitz prices also beat Rimmer and they also offered good re-con parts.
Finnally they undertook a full (Free) survey of the entire car to assess what parts were required.
Still - thanks for the Rimmer Bros heads up
Rgds
John
Posted 2009-06-11 19:06:58
Crossy, on 2009-06-09 15:34:07, said: Yup ^^^  But I think many would still like to see those photos 
I work full time in Sri Racha and have also been busy un packing all the parts and checking them off along with comissioning the imediate works required.
I will take pictures on this coming Saturday and post the same.
With sufficient inerest - I will open a nut & bolt restoration on the project in the motoring section.
I have no doubts as to the Thai quality on chassis / body / interior works.
Mechanical / electrical will be on my hands.
Please do wait a day or two longer.
Rgds
John
Edited by Johnmacs, 2009-06-11 19:30:04.
Posted 2009-06-11 19:09:04
basjke, on 2009-06-10 21:35:54, said: bikerman, on 2009-06-10 11:37:09, said: INTJ, on 2009-06-09 07:37:56, said: Congratulations, proving all the naysayers here wrong is the jam on top
Still waiting for photos !!!!!!
The OP logs in several times a day to read his own topic but so far he does no replies to PM's or post the pictures as he promised a few days ago.
Maybe he is dreaming a new dream.
I attempted to reply to your PM but the message was rejected due to incorrect "Quotes" placement.
I will try again soonest.
Rgds
John
Posted 2009-06-11 19:35:02
Rdrokit, on 2009-06-10 15:32:11, said: Did the 123,000 baht get you a blue book and license plate? Or do you have to get it inspected (and pay more $$$) after the resto to get a blue book and license plate??
No - the blue book is additional - beleived to be 12 - 15000 Bhat.
Also engineers inspection required - this one will attract the same logic - when in Rome.
This is exactly the type of thing that Farangs should keep out of and leave the Thai's to deal with - they Know whats / where and when. No one else does!!!
That logic has proved good so far.
Every single thing availble has a price in Thailand.
Rgds
John
Edited by Johnmacs, 2009-06-11 19:36:01.
Posted 2009-06-12 19:29:32
Johnmacs, on 2009-06-08 22:46:11, said: thaicbr, on 2009-06-08 21:08:33, said: Hi Johnmacs. Glad to hear you got it in. I think the fact it was in shabby condition and that you had owned it for 20 years probably helped. Does the TR6 have aircon or are you going to retro fit when you rebuild it?
Allan
Hi Alan
Thanks.
Looks are only skin deep my friend - yes it appears shabby - the body is in fact brand new with a doctored finish to the paint work !!!
No air con fitted - not decided as to retro - fit at the moment and I don't consider it important.
Whilst we are aiming to take the original engine from 132 HP to 185 developed - I would not care to waste any power that would detract from acceleration / speed.
The engine comes with a modified un-leaded, stage two tuned valves and fast road cam - but customs don't look at details such as those - thankfully.
All chassis repairs were carried out by TR-Bitz during a body off - strengthened and coated with two part epoxy coatings - the dust was applied liberally shortly after the coating cured.
Again - its what is perceived at first glance.
As they say - many a good tune is played on an old fiddle?
Vbr
John
Hello Alan
Update - discussed with local repir shop today and they will retro fit compressor / condensor and modify heater from "Nissan Mira", this will be slightly larger than the TR6 cockpit.
Drive mod's are easy and power required will be minimal.
So will stay in Hard top mode most of the time.
Rgds
Johnmacs
Posted 2009-06-13 05:14:27
Hi John,
Well done on getting your car here! Obviously, from other commentators/stories, we know it can be difficult/impossible to import a vehicle.
It would be good to see pictures exactly as it arrived, only to give an idea as to what it looked like in it's 'virgin' state. Obviously, other people have tried to bring in more, shall we say, pristine condition vehicles.
Don't get me wrong TR6 lovely classic and I personally would be really interested following the joys/frustrations/other restoring it. Also, would be interesting to know what local craftsmen and the quality of workmanship etc etc.
Once again, well done and I think you will have some busy late evenings!
Posted 2009-06-13 08:09:27
kjhbigv, on 2009-06-13 05:14:27, said: Hi John,
Well done on getting your car here! Obviously, from other commentators/stories, we know it can be difficult/impossible to import a vehicle.
It would be good to see pictures exactly as it arrived, only to give an idea as to what it looked like in it's 'virgin' state. Obviously, other people have tried to bring in more, shall we say, pristine condition vehicles.
Don't get me wrong TR6 lovely classic and I personally would be really interested following the joys/frustrations/other restoring it. Also, would be interesting to know what local craftsmen and the quality of workmanship etc etc.
Once again, well done and I think you will have some busy late evenings!
Thankyou for you for your interest and kind comments.
Whilst T.V. has been instrumental in starting this story - I beleive it does not really lend itself to the restoration story.
Hence I wish to allow this thread to close by natural means.
I will be using Facebook to post the restoration story and will post pictures along with video and commetary on the restoration.
Indeed - late nights, early mornings - devoted week-ends and no sleep due to excitemnt.
Anyone may follow the story by searching for John Macsween on facebook.
The negative comments are best left without reply - although I try to not be ignorant.
The positive feed back come from genuine people and my thanks go out to them.
My kindest regards go out to all inclusive and I bear no hard feelings.
John Macsween
Edited by Johnmacs, 2009-06-13 08:11:14.
Posted 2009-06-13 11:33:24
And the pictures are.............................
Posted 2009-06-13 12:11:53
You have given the doubters the opportunity to view your project and now it's up to them, RIP.
Posted 2009-06-13 12:26:15
wackysleet, on 2009-06-13 12:11:53, said: You have given the doubters the opportunity to view your project and now it's up to them, RIP.
How right you are - but that will entail them probably having to sober up - perhaps thats asking a little too much.
I live 500 meters from the garage - the owner has my HP number.
I will meet with any visitors after 18:00 working days and most week-ends.
Thai speak "Up To You"
I am also willing to reveal (Verbal only) the costs involved.
Johnmacs
Posted 2009-06-13 12:41:13
Johnmacs, on 2009-06-13 12:26:15, said: wackysleet, on 2009-06-13 12:11:53, said: You have given the doubters the opportunity to view your project and now it's up to them, RIP.
How right you are - but that will entail them probably having to sober up - perhaps thats asking a little too much.
I live 500 meters from the garage - the owner has my HP number.
I will meet with any visitors after 18:00 working days and most week-ends.
Thai speak "Up To You"
I am also willing to reveal (Verbal only) the costs involved.
Johnmacs
See attachments - note Thai number plate - car on the lift - TR6 in the shot also.
Posted 2009-06-13 12:56:33
Isn't this forum and topic about discussion and information and yes the original poster took a lot of stick from others who doubted his honesty and integrity and probably felt justifiably pis--d off about it, he appears to have exactly what he said so there really is no need for either parties to flame each other, details in the import of this vehicle could well have changed from the original estimates but that is par for the course when it comes to customs and duty.
Posted 2009-06-13 17:37:55
How could the Thai Customs pick up on it with all that years old deep rust and rotten door bottoms etc,etc. Hope your 'new' chassis is is straiter than the 'brand new' body then you can sort out the wonky door shuts etc. Finally its a targa model for everybody who doesn't know considrably less appealing than a proper convertable.
Posted 2009-06-13 18:08:09
kartman, on 2009-06-13 17:37:55, said: How could the Thai Customs pick up on it with all that years old deep rust and rotten door bottoms etc,etc. Hope your 'new' chassis is is straiter than the 'brand new' body then you can sort out the wonky door shuts etc. Finally its a targa model for everybody who doesn't know considrably less appealing than a proper convertable.
Miaow, Miaow, but is it a TR6 which the poster spoke about.
Posted 2009-06-13 18:19:38
[quote xbusman'
Well we purely are interested in all the gory details as they arise. If you had no questions, never thought to use the search function to educate yourself on the process, and are confident in your ability to get it through customs, exactly why are you posting? You can keep a dairy at home and not waste bandwidth. If you plan on educating all us newbies on the process of importing a car, we stand ready to learn as no one has ever thought of trying this before. Bet it could be a great business.
Having brought a few vehicles through customs myself, I am truly interested in the entertainment value which your thread has the potential to provide. Please dont stop posting, we are waiting with bated breath for all the fun.
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xbusman. you say that you have brought a few vehicles through customs yourself but you appear to doubt that anyone else has the ability to navigate through the problems of customs, sounds like a bit of arrogance there .
Posted 2009-06-13 23:39:14
Quote Well we purely are interested in all the gory details as they arise. If you had no questions, never thought to use the search function to educate yourself on the process, and are confident in your ability to get it through customs, exactly why are you posting? You can keep a dairy at home and not waste bandwidth. If you plan on educating all us newbies on the process of importing a car, we stand ready to learn as no one has ever thought of trying this before. Bet it could be a great business.
Having brought a few vehicles through customs myself, I am truly interested in the entertainment value which your thread has the potential to provide. Please dont stop posting, we are waiting with bated breath for all the fun.
xbusman. you say that you have brought a few vehicles through customs yourself but you appear to doubt that anyone else has the ability to navigate through the problems of customs, sounds like a bit of arrogance there .
Sorry to disappoint you, I have only brought through motorcycles and then only about 15 containers. Cars are an entirely different animal but as I read the end result I think this guy used pretty much the same process I did. I might be wrong but it appears that he brought in a pretty bad off car, one that had little or no value, and will separately bring in the parts to fix it up. In a round about way, pretty much the way motorcycles are brought in.
I stand by my statement, I think we are all interested in all the gory details. Its been tried by many a person and as best I can tell this is the first success story on this board. My experience with Customs leads me to believe that just about anything can be done for the right amount of money, its just that they are so greedy that it almost always exceeds the pain threshold of most private importation attempts. I take from this thread that the trick is two fold, first bring in something that no one would want for free. The TR6 fits this nicely as anyone who has restored Triumphs already knows. Secondly, be prepared to pay excessive amounts for the privilege, and our OP is being particularly coy with the total amounts. Just the little bit posted indicates that he has spent far more than the car is worth as import payments. I refuse to comment on how someone throws their money, either an Elite card, a TR6, or a sick buffalo, its their money and they can spend it whatever way it makes them happy. Personally though, I generally try to keep my dumb ideas off the board and lurk here to be educated in the ever shifting complexities of Thailand. I think I learned something from this thread as well but I still dont understand why the OP posted though if they were unwilling to share the gory details, whats the point of wasting bandwidth?
Be careful with making assumptions on appearances, if I doubted that anyone else other than me could navigate customs I would have posted such but like I said, if I have stupid ideas I am at least smart enough not to post them.
Posted 2009-06-13 23:48:34
On contemplation of the above post, I think this is an excellent opportunity to congratulate Johnmacs on his success where so many others have failed. I am sure his classic sport car is going to keep him quite happily busy for many years to come. I for one will be watching for a fresh new TR6 on thai streets one day, to date I have not seen many.
I did run across a dealership not far from Seacon Square that had a TR6, TR7 and about three spitfires for sale. That might be a good contact for the few parts or supplies that might be in Thailand.
Best of luck with the restoration.
Posted 2009-06-14 13:40:28
U can import cars to Thailand for restauration purposes only. This is what the "Classic Garage" on Highway 36 does exactly. But you can't register the cars anyway, especially if you gonna change chassis. It's not only the import thing. You have to go to ministery of manufactering. They will test the car for roadsafeties and catalyc converter, after that you go to Ministery of transportation and try to get a logbook. A new car you can import and registration in Thailand, Therefore all the Lambos, Ferarris and even new Dodge Challengers and mustangs available in Thailand. But used ones you can't legalle register, unless someone uses papers from some other cars, therefore maybe the chassis change. Have to be carefull. There are 1000s of peaple who try to import any cars with or without "connections" Everyone always failed (except dipolomatic peaple). So i personaly not beleve that now can import used cars. If so i would be nice and i personally want a nice Corvette for a US price. I don't beleve it's possible. Otherwise this would be the big END of boring Vioses, Vigos and Jazzes and this is what the goverment affraid for.
Posted 2009-06-14 15:42:36
stingray, on 2009-06-14 14:40:28, said: U can import cars to Thailand for restauration purposes only. This is what the "Classic Garage" on Highway 36 does exactly. But you can't register the cars anyway, especially if you gonna change chassis. It's not only the import thing. You have to go to ministery of manufactering. They will test the car for roadsafeties and catalyc converter, after that you go to Ministery of transportation and try to get a logbook. A new car you can import and registration in Thailand, Therefore all the Lambos, Ferarris and even new Dodge Challengers and mustangs available in Thailand. But used ones you can't legalle register, unless someone uses papers from some other cars, therefore maybe the chassis change. Have to be carefull. There are 1000s of peaple who try to import any cars with or without "connections" Everyone always failed (except dipolomatic peaple). So i personaly not beleve that now can import used cars. If so i would be nice and i personally want a nice Corvette for a US price. I don't beleve it's possible. Otherwise this would be the big END of boring Vioses, Vigos and Jazzes and this is what the goverment affraid for. 
..so were he can obtain blue book for 12-15K is crap think he has been in bar watching the girls before thinking about his project.
If it were the case and that easy every classic sports car fan out there would be doing it and when he rebuilds the car if all paperwork is maybe incorrect then blue bye car and some BIB will have the pleasure of all his labor and of course moneys spent ( and as we all understand the BIB always win) well most of the time .
I do wish him good luck and shows all of
..should I say none bar flies that at least someone won
.still have my doubts
Posted 2009-06-14 17:53:03
bikerman, on 2009-06-14 15:42:36, said: stingray, on 2009-06-14 14:40:28, said: U can import cars to Thailand for restauration purposes only. This is what the "Classic Garage" on Highway 36 does exactly. But you can't register the cars anyway, especially if you gonna change chassis. It's not only the import thing. You have to go to ministery of manufactering. They will test the car for roadsafeties and catalyc converter, after that you go to Ministery of transportation and try to get a logbook. A new car you can import and registration in Thailand, Therefore all the Lambos, Ferarris and even new Dodge Challengers and mustangs available in Thailand. But used ones you can't legalle register, unless someone uses papers from some other cars, therefore maybe the chassis change. Have to be carefull. There are 1000s of peaple who try to import any cars with or without "connections" Everyone always failed (except dipolomatic peaple). So i personaly not beleve that now can import used cars. If so i would be nice and i personally want a nice Corvette for a US price. I don't beleve it's possible. Otherwise this would be the big END of boring Vioses, Vigos and Jazzes and this is what the goverment affraid for.
I guess another thing was important with the imported car above: The car is a project anyway and Locals don't ionterested in TR6, they don't even know what is it, as the car is nothging worth in LOS. So they let him pay the custom tax. They got more money than take the car to a custom auction and try to sell it there. I guess nobody would bid anything on that car. Try the same thing with a nice fancy Ferrari, Benz or whatever. In this case i guess they want get that car and will tax it so high, that everyone will give up.
Posted 2009-06-14 19:16:53
10,000 pounds on duty to bring that in..............
I bet someones Mia Noi has got a new handbag
Edited by INTJ, 2009-06-14 19:23:20.
Posted 2009-06-14 19:27:04
I dunno about other people. but i have not seen the OP state he paid 10,000 pound (540,000b) in duty.
Why is it that people bitch about things even when they have been provided evidence that it happened.
Posted 2009-06-14 20:06:49
thaicbr, on 2009-06-14 19:27:04, said: I dunno about other people. but i have not seen the OP state he paid 10,000 pound (540,000b) in duty.
Why is it that people bitch about things even when they have been provided evidence that it happened.
He didn't but apparently he had a dialogue with someone as a pm, check post 70, perhaps they tried and didn't pull it off and are a bit miffed about it, but read some of the earlier doubters and even when the car is here, they are still having a go, at the end of the day even if the car is worth a fiver the point is surely that he got it in, perhaps at a cost that he wasn't really prepared for but that was up to the poster.
Posted 2009-06-14 20:13:37
In Thailand if you throw enough money around almost anything is possible.
That's the point - previous attempts at importing cars have failed as the persons have not wished to pay exorbitant, unrealistic fees to customs.
See what I'm getting at ?
Posted 2009-06-14 20:22:38
INTJ, on 2009-06-14 20:13:37, said: In Thailand if you throw enough money around almost anything is possible.
That's the point - previous attempts at importing cars have failed as the persons have not wished to pay exorbitant, unrealistic fees to customs.
See what I'm getting at ?
Of course, but the intrinsic value of something does not necessarily have anything to do with the sentimental value, he maybe very attached to this vehicle for reasons unknown to us.
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