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[Mali1964]

Boater, on 2009-02-22 21:34:02, said:

This does look very ' Mafia ' Style Killing, but far from anything the Thai Mafia would do...

Maybe this is russian??? ... but if anyone has seen a close up picture, russian men are easily identified....

Glad to see its not you Boater after your bad run in with ex Thai employers.

[basjke]

MeetJohnDoe, on 2009-02-22 21:30:09, said:

I wonder if this guy owed any money to the Banco Vaticano

Seems I remember a chap who was involved in some financial shenanigans with said bank awhile back and ended up in a similar posture under a certain bridge in London.

That "chap" was the chairman of banco ambrosiano and it happend quite a while ago.To be precise 27 years.

[Johpa]

Goshawk, on 2009-02-22 21:05:18, said:

"We need to urgently know who is the victim," he said, requesting that the media published clear pictures of the victim's face to help police identify the victim.

-- The Nation 2009-02-22

Was it all that long ago when severed heads were common fare on the front pages of the Thai newspapers to be followed by more extensive photographic treatment in the next issue of the "191" snuff magazine found at every street corner?

[edwardmoulton]

Just saw it reported on Thai news... with the head fuzzed out so how exactly is anyone supposed to help identify the victim?

[pampal]

I always stop under that bridge to drink water and rest, when I ride my bicycle. It's a major rest area for Tuk Tuk and taxi drivers. Also some people fishing. There are sometimes shady charecters there. But this is truly sad.

[geriatrickid]

Wonderful. Another positive bit of press. I am surprised no one saw anything,

[siam2007]

Norrad, on 2009-02-22 21:23:18, said:

Holy crap, I was at the bridge last night with my wife.

then better ask your wife to check if your head is still properly fixed to your body

[bangkokboro]

Listen everybody the bridge didn't do it.

[Rinrada]

basjke, on 2009-02-22 10:09:13, said:

MeetJohnDoe, on 2009-02-22 21:30:09, said:

I wonder if this guy owed any money to the Banco Vaticano

Seems I remember a chap who was involved in some financial shenanigans with said bank awhile back and ended up in a similar posture under a certain bridge in London.

That "chap" was the chairman of banco ambrosiano and it happend quite a while ago.To be precise 27 years.

The guys name was a Calvi and he was indeed involved with the Popes Bank and was found hanging under Blackfriars Bridge,London.(from memory one Sunday morning)

No clear or final verdict ever reached and seems that he was /may have been dressed in a Monks habit (Blackfriars)was involved with the Mafia and had Masonic connections and was weighed down with bricks,money or even bars of gold....

Various suspects over the years but like the Diana 'incident' ...still a mystery....(for some)

[Sisaketmike]

robbiecia, on 2009-02-22 20:39:58, said:

Pol Col Chavalit Prasobsilp, a police chief, said that it was apparently not a suicide and he will wait for autopsy results before concluding how the head was cut from the body.


The BIB will always continue to completely and utterly amaze me!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Welcome to the land of smiles.......'it was apparently not a suicide?' I think more important to know is who cut his head off, how isn't really that important. It seems that Jack the Ripper is back.....

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[bartender100]

Looks like one for Vincent Calvino

[warunya]

No dought they will discover that he commited suicide, as so often the police say in thailand and give there reasons for y,,,even with his head cut off,,,
watch for further news, it would not surprise me

[sassienie]

Brilliant deduction by Pol Col Chavalit Prasobsilp, that this is apparently not a suicide.

Sherlock Holmes, eat your heart out.

Who ever heard of someone committing suicide by cutting their head off, putting their head into a bag and hanging it from a bridge?

Just out of curiosity, was the message written on the bridge in Thai or some other language?

Edited by sassienie, 2009-02-23 01:44:23.

[tropo]

sassienie, on 2009-02-23 01:41:24, said:

Brilliant deduction by Pol Col Chavalit Prasobsilp, that this is apparently not a suicide.

Sherlock Holmes, eat your heart out.

Who ever heard of someone committing suicide by cutting their head off, putting their head into a bag and hanging it from a bridge?

Just out of curiosity, was the message written on the bridge in Thai or some other language?

He did say "apparently", so of course he isn't sure.

I'll bet it was a suicide. Was the head hanging neck down or neck up inside the plactic bag? The note left on the bridge points to suicide.

If you look at the rope hanging from the bridge you can estimate its length (in comparison to the height of the people standing on the bridge) at about 25 ft. It also appears to be thin rope. Jumping off the bridge with that tied around your neck would easily cause a decapitation - like a knife through butter.

The body will probably be recovered somewhere down the river.

[sassienie]

tropo, on 2009-02-23 01:47:55, said:

sassienie, on 2009-02-23 01:41:24, said:

Brilliant deduction by Pol Col Chavalit Prasobsilp, that this is apparently not a suicide.

Sherlock Holmes, eat your heart out.

Who ever heard of someone committing suicide by cutting their head off, putting their head into a bag and hanging it from a bridge?

Just out of curiosity, was the message written on the bridge in Thai or some other language?

He did say "apparently", so of course he isn't sure.

I'll bet it was a suicide. Was the head hanging neck down or neck up inside the plactic bag? The note left on the bridge points to suicide.

If you look at the rope hanging from the bridge you can estimate its length (in comparison to the height of the people standing on the bridge) at about 25 ft. It also appears to be thin rope. Jumping off the bridge with that tied around your neck would easily cause a decapitation - like a knife through butter.

The body will probably be recovered somewhere down the river.

What, and the victim conveniently wrapped his head in a bag before he jumped?

Perhaps he didn’t want to frighten the children.

[tropo]

sassienie, on 2009-02-23 02:21:51, said:

tropo, on 2009-02-23 01:47:55, said:

sassienie, on 2009-02-23 01:41:24, said:

Brilliant deduction by Pol Col Chavalit Prasobsilp, that this is apparently not a suicide.

Sherlock Holmes, eat your heart out.

Who ever heard of someone committing suicide by cutting their head off, putting their head into a bag and hanging it from a bridge?

Just out of curiosity, was the message written on the bridge in Thai or some other language?

He did say "apparently", so of course he isn't sure.

I'll bet it was a suicide. Was the head hanging neck down or neck up inside the plactic bag? The note left on the bridge points to suicide.

If you look at the rope hanging from the bridge you can estimate its length (in comparison to the height of the people standing on the bridge) at about 25 ft. It also appears to be thin rope. Jumping off the bridge with that tied around your neck would easily cause a decapitation - like a knife through butter.

The body will probably be recovered somewhere down the river.

What, and the victim conveniently wrapped his head in a bag before he jumped?

Perhaps he didn’t want to frighten the children.

A predictable response, ignoring all the other factors which lead to a possible suicide. We haven't seen a close up of the plactic bag so it's impossible to determine how his head was wrapped and which position it was in, but is it difficult to put a plactic bag over your head and then slide on a rope before you jump? Perhpas he wanted to induce cerebral hypoxia before he jumped. He may have realised that decapitation was a certainty from that height and wanted to keep it clean. Who knows what a suicidal person is thinking.

From what we know, I don't believe we can rule out suicide.

[ThaiAdventure]

Nonsense.

1. If he had hung himself then the body would be underneath. As far as I'm aware, it's a disembodied head.
2. The note stinks of Thai grammar (like "My fiend me")

[johnnyk]

A message being sent by someone?

[Digitalbanana]

Norrad, on 2009-02-22 21:23:18, said:

Holy crap, I was at the bridge last night with my wife.

How do you know you had the correct bridge? The Nation says it was Rama IX? Have they screwed up their news report again? (Actually reading Thai Rath I guess they have as the photo is Rama VIII).

Edited by Digitalbanana, 2009-02-23 06:20:29.

[Briggsy]

No shortage of violent deaths of Westerners (and locals) in the Land of Shootings, Suicides & Stabbings. And no sign of a let-up in either Thailand being one of the most dangerous countries to visit or having one of the highest murder rates in the world. And paradoxically no sign that the millions that come here every year know how dangerous this country really can be.

[TexasRanger]

Briggsy, on 2009-02-23 07:44:47, said:

No shortage of violent deaths of Westerners (and locals) in the Land of Shootings, Suicides & Stabbings. And no sign of a let-up in either Thailand being one of the most dangerous countries to visit or having one of the highest murder rates in the world. And paradoxically no sign that the millions that come here every year know how dangerous this country really can be.

Yeah, I feel much safer in america

[Mali1964]

tropo, on 2009-02-23 01:47:55, said:

sassienie, on 2009-02-23 01:41:24, said:

Brilliant deduction by Pol Col Chavalit Prasobsilp, that this is apparently not a suicide.

Sherlock Holmes, eat your heart out.

Who ever heard of someone committing suicide by cutting their head off, putting their head into a bag and hanging it from a bridge?

Just out of curiosity, was the message written on the bridge in Thai or some other language?

He did say "apparently", so of course he isn't sure.

I'll bet it was a suicide. Was the head hanging neck down or neck up inside the plactic bag? The note left on the bridge points to suicide.

If you look at the rope hanging from the bridge you can estimate its length (in comparison to the height of the people standing on the bridge) at about 25 ft. It also appears to be thin rope. Jumping off the bridge with that tied around your neck would easily cause a decapitation - like a knife through butter.

The body will probably be recovered somewhere down the river.

So tell me with such an impact made to decapitate one's head how on earth would the Head itself stay attached to the rope after it had made this clean cut????????????????

Of course!!! he also tied the bag in such an intricate way that it held the head inside this bag & the bag also stayed tied to the rope, maybe he's a ships captain must know his knots well truly amazing theory

You Suicide hunters think to much like the BIB & want the easy way out what do you think is family will feel of your crazy assumptions

[bkkjames]

In case anyone interested, in today's Khaosod newspaper, they have a close up of the guys head.

http://www.matichon.co.th/khaosod/

[Who, me ?]

Whatever is said about circumstances of this death is only pure speculation....Has anyone seen a clear close up picture ? As far as I know, the only two that we have seen do not show anything else than an unclear shot of a spheric shape hanging on a rope. My eyes are not too good, but , unless I missed something, it's all I have seen. I am sure that forensic will have much better elements to work on, and to give a more reliable explanation....
To the poor lad who ended his life there, RIP......Hope that circumstances of your death will be explained

[Mali1964]

bkkjames, on 2009-02-23 08:47:14, said:

In case anyone interested, in today's Khaosod newspaper, they have a close up of the guys head.

http://www.matichon.co.th/khaosod/

Who, me ?, on 2009-02-23 08:51:31, said:

Whatever is said about circumstances of this death is only pure speculation....Has anyone seen a clear close up picture ? As far as I know, the only two that we have seen do not show anything else than an unclear shot of a spheric shape hanging on a rope. My eyes are not too good, but , unless I missed something, it's all I have seen. I am sure that forensic will have much better elements to work on, and to give a more reliable explanation....
To the poor lad who ended his life there, RIP......Hope that circumstances of your death will be explained

Photo here link above,not to clear but I think if you new him you would recognise him from this photo.