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Posted 2008-11-15 23:08:02
camerata, on 2008-10-30 15:44:24, said:
I think the script used in sak yants is ancient Khmer (Phasa Khawm) and Pali rather than Thai.
That is korrekt, normally Khorm script is used. Khorm is actually not that different from nowadays Khmer, there are lots of resources on the internet and with a littlle searching you will be able to transliterate all the letters used.
There comes the complication however: In most cases one letter stands for a whole word or even line of a Buddhist sutta or even more komplex, a whole combination of suttas. They are never just mottos or 'sentences' that can be just literally translated. As such a Yant might have rather far-reaching meaning and should only be implemented after long counseling of the needs of the person getting the tattoo. Also, following its roots in Khmer traditions, many yant dip deep into Brahmin traditions.
Without actually having looked in detail on your yants, a quick guess would be that the first could be a derivation of suttas in connection with the Brahma Sahampati, simply because the use of Erawan (three-headed elephant). A good lead would be the Maha-parinibbana Sutta describing the last days of the Buddha, or other suttas in the Samyutta Nikaya connected to Sahampati.
On further thought. A temple implementing a yant without such research into the patient cannot, in my opinion, follow any high standards and is most likely just a money-making operation.
And a person getting a yant without having a spriritual need for it, having it researched for a long time and finally decided after a spiritual process could, again in my opinion, just go to the next tattoo parlor and get some menaingless symbols tattooed on his body (which the chance is high that they are, when the monk applying it had such a low standard, he might not actually be able to read or understand this yant either).
In this case, hard as it sounds, it really does not matter what your yant means. If you had been serious about getting it, you would have known beforehand.
Posted 2008-11-15 23:13:10
To soften the statement in my last post somewhat, it is of course never late to diminish ignorance and read. Maybe here would be a good starting point, and the whole website is a treasure trove of information: http://www.accesstoinsight.org/tipitaka/dn...6.1-6.vaji.html
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Posted 2008-12-17 03:04:49
I took some pictures in Thailand of some one with these tattoos and was wondering what they all meant and any other information on them.
Posted 2008-12-17 06:12:12
Posted 2008-12-21 15:35:25
konjianghai, on 2008-12-16 23:12:12, said:
konjiangha the link that you have provide will not open can you check it from your end please.
Posted 2008-12-22 23:42:52
anyone here have any idea on how does one get a tattoo by an ajahn? went to some websites but have difficulty understanding written thai, i frequent bangkok often for work & looking to get one done by reputable ajahn.
angelina jolie had one done by an ajahn sometime back, i did a bit of reading up & realise the design was choosen by the ajahn, so if one is to get a tattoo by an ajahn, they can't choose the design themselves? perhaps someone can help me clear my doubts...
looking to get this tattoo on my back, any idea what this tattoo is call in thai?
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Posted 2008-12-23 07:37:46
This was done by Ajarn Noo, his website is http://www.arjannoo.com/ but be warned, he is VERY expensive.
"Sak yant" is what it is called in Thai, the tattoo in the picture is "ha teaw" or 5 lines (sorry for the way I've spelt this).
Posted 2008-12-23 08:33:30
Aussie Andy, on 2008-12-23 01:37:46, said:
This was done by Ajarn Noo, his website is http://www.arjannoo.com/ but be warned, he is VERY expensive.
"Sak yant" is what it is called in Thai, the tattoo in the picture is "ha teaw" or 5 lines (sorry for the way I've spelt this).
AA do you have an example of his (ajarn Noo) costing ?
Posted 2008-12-23 09:19:03
Aussie Andy, on 2008-12-23 08:37:46, said:
This was done by Ajarn Noo, his website is xxxxx but be warned, he is VERY expensive.
"Sak yant" is what it is called in Thai, the tattoo in the picture is "ha teaw" or 5 lines (sorry for the way I've spelt this).
Yes I've heard that he is expensive but for a few months I have never get to know the exact pricing, is there a spokesman for ajahn noo whom we can contact via email or mobile? Preferably english speaking...
For the "ha teaw" that you have mention, is it different for every person? read from some sites that one of the lines is on your zodiac sign, can someone enlighten me?
Regards,
tc4mez
Posted 2008-12-23 11:26:14
mijan24, on 2008-12-23 01:33:30, said:
Aussie Andy, on 2008-12-23 01:37:46, said:
This was done by Ajarn Noo, his website is http://www.arjannoo.com/ but be warned, he is VERY expensive.
"Sak yant" is what it is called in Thai, the tattoo in the picture is "ha teaw" or 5 lines (sorry for the way I've spelt this).
AA do you have an example of his (ajarn Noo) costing ?
The haa taew as seen in the Jolie photo costs 10,000 baht at Aj Noo's. If it's any consolation, his team's work is exceptionally fine.
Good question about whether the haa taew is customised for each person. I always assumed it was the same for everyone, but I don't know for sure.
Posted 2008-12-23 13:19:59
Can someone translate this to english for us perhaps?
Got the picture from another website which I "MAI KOW JAI" the language as well...
btw for some reason I can't seems to post the link on my replies or posting, is there a setting here that allows that?
Posted 2008-12-23 14:58:25
Those are Aj Noo's 12 practice rules (basically precepts) for those who want to wear sak yan. I could translate them but would rather direct you to the Thai Language subforum, where you will find many eager amateur Thai translators ;-). Please post the photo there and you should have a translation in a jiffy.
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Posted 2009-01-19 22:01:25
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Posted 2009-01-20 10:28:22
Sorry.. i forgot to add the other two...
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Posted 2009-02-06 14:36:53
sabaijai, on 2008-05-12 12:23:05, said:
There's a Hmong in Mae Taeng, Chiang Mai Province, who does the best work I've ever seen (from an aesthetic view), for 99 baht plus flowers and incense. IMHO any chang sak that charges more than that is in for the money, and that includes both Aj Noo and Po Kae.
Oh! I am very interested in this person. Can you please give me some more information? Is it easy enough to just go to Mae Taeng and ask around for the Hmong person?
Thank you so much for your help!
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Posted 2009-02-09 17:15:18
caffeinetrip, on 2008-10-29 14:41:44, said:
Hi. I just got two Sak Yan's from Wat Bang Phra and had a great experience!
My Taxi driver spoke okay english and was able to help me translate the meanings with the master monk, but I would really apperciate it if anyone here could give me a fuller explanation of my Sak Yans, the meanings, and the literal translation of the words.
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Thanks in advance!
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Wow, I am surprised to see the person tattooing you in jeans and a pollo shirt. Even the Arjans who are not monks seem dress more spiritual. I guess Thailand is the land of contradictions though.  The tattoos are beautiful. I don't recognize that monk from Wat Bang Phra. Did you happen to catch his name?
Posted 2009-02-09 17:56:37
jcandeli, on 2009-02-09 17:15:18, said:
caffeinetrip, on 2008-10-29 14:41:44, said:
Hi. I just got two Sak Yan's from Wat Bang Phra and had a great experience!
My Taxi driver spoke okay english and was able to help me translate the meanings with the master monk, but I would really apperciate it if anyone here could give me a fuller explanation of my Sak Yans, the meanings, and the literal translation of the words.
Arm_Sak_...ant_Full.jpg
Back_Sak...ger_Full.jpg
Wat_Bang_Phra.JPG
Thanks in advance!
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Wow, I am surprised to see the person tattooing you in jeans and a pollo shirt. Even the Arjans who are not monks seem dress more spiritual. I guess Thailand is the land of contradictions though.  The tattoos are beautiful. I don't recognize that monk from Wat Bang Phra. Did you happen to catch his name?
The fact is the guy doing the tattooing is a layman and perhaps an ex-monk , highly doubt that was done at Wat Bang Phra
The yant's are very nice and clean but at Wat Bang Phra the monks do the tattooing
Guess his good English speaking taxi driver took him somewhere else
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Posted 2009-02-09 20:28:24
Sawadee khap all.
Altough this is another tattoo related topic, it is different then the others.
The end of the year me and my girlfriend are going to Thailand for 2 months, and I would finnaly realize a dream of myself and that is to get some yants tattooed
Now I have ofcourse searched on the net and found some Wat's where they tattoo you,
but I can't seem to find Wat's in or near Ubon Ratchathani, in or near Nong Kai, in or near Chiang Mai, and in or near Chiang Rai
Can anyone of you help me and tell me if and where these Wat's can be found in those areas?
I did find some names of Monks, Brahim Masters and Ruesi, and at which Wat's they can be found, but the excact adresses are difficult to find, so if someone can help me out with this I would be very happy.
Quote Monks:-
- Hlwong Phu Man
- Hlwong Por Lae - Petchburi
- Hlwong Pi Pant - ex Wat bang Pra - now at Wat Kho Poon Temple - Ang Tong Provin
- Wat Bang Pra:
- Hlwong Por Phern - Wat bang Pra temple - Nakorn Phatom
- Hlwong Pi Phaew - Wat bang Pra
- Hlwong Pi Nan - Wat bang Pra
- Hlwong Pi Thig - Wat bang Pra
- Hlwong Pi Ya - Wat bang Pra
- Brahmin Masters :-
- Ajarn Gaew - Bang Sue, Bangkok
- Ajarn Noo Ganpai - Phatum Thani, Bangkok
- Ajarn Thong
- Ruesi:-
- Ajarn Thoy - Wat Tong Nai temple, Awn Nut, Bangkok
- Ajarn Anek
- Some in Southern Thailand, but don't know their rank:
- Ajarn Daeng, Wat Rai Temple - Pattani.
- Ajarn Dam Wat Hin Korkway - Yan Dta Khaw.
- Ajarn Iad - Wat Poke Yem - Pattalung.
- Ajarn Biam - Wat Lam Plork - Trang.
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Posted 2009-02-12 22:48:54
caffeinetrip, on 2008-10-29 08:41:44, said:
Hi. I just got two Sak Yan's from Wat Bang Phra and had a great experience!
My Taxi driver spoke okay english and was able to help me translate the meanings with the master monk, but I would really apperciate it if anyone here could give me a fuller explanation of my Sak Yans, the meanings, and the literal translation of the words.
Arm_Sak_...ant_Full.jpg
Back_Sak...ger_Full.jpg
Wat_Bang_Phra.JPG
Thanks in advance!
Can you give us an indication on how long it took to get these two?
and how much did it cost you?
Posted 2009-02-22 02:51:26
mizzi39, on 2008-08-13 14:25:35, said:
I found this thread to be very informative. Does anyone know of any temples in the issan area (especially around Buri ram, Surin) that specializes in Yan tattooing? Any suggestions are greatly appreciated. Thanks!
Thanks for the name cards from Ajarn Anek - ill publish them too for those who wish to visit him.
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Posted 2009-02-23 20:03:33
mizzi39, on 2008-08-13 08:25:35, said:
I found this thread to be very informative. Does anyone know of any temples in the issan area (especially around Buri ram, Surin) that specializes in Yan tattooing? Any suggestions are greatly appreciated. Thanks!
Altough the post was made a long time ago:
I'm also interested in any Wat's doing Sak Yant's in that area...
Posted 2009-02-23 21:49:00
stone cold, on 2005-11-21 18:23:05, said:
chownah, on 2005-11-21 12:53:28, said: There's a couple of threads on this topic already....use the search function and look for 'tattoo'.
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yup, been through various thread, but anyone has a tattoo done at wat bang pra before?
can we request for a tattoo at any time of the year or just during the festival?
or anyone has a tattoo done by aarjan Noo Khanpai(spelling??) I assume it will be much harder to get tattoo done by him as he is soo famous now... anyone any idea?
thanks
hector
I was at the Samnuk of Arjan Noo in December/January this year! http://arjannoo.com/ You can go to his place anytime you want- but expect the place to be very busy and you may not get your tattoo on that day. Sometime it is completely empty - you just have to be lucky. You definitely need a car to get there.
Of course I wanted the tatoo from Arjan directly but it was way too expensive (well, if he tattooed me, then he would have to close the Samuk for a day and I have to pay all the cost they would have earned - asked for something like 20,000 Euro! A woman cannot show much skin in his place), so I was tattooed by Khun Kai, one of the first disciples of Arjan. He is such a talented artist, but don't expect them to be nice. First you have to negotiate the price with Arjan's little brother but they know that the foreigners have money so they will probably try to rip you off - Thais pay 1/3 of what Farangs pay...
Arjan still does ink tattoo, my friend got it from him directly. You cannot make any reservation. You just go, and wait for your turn. If you go to his disciples, then you cannot choose which one you want - you just go to the guy who is free. Khun Kai is definitely the best - Arjan's little brother, Khun Nid, is also a talented artist, but since he manages the finance of the operation, my husband had to wait for over an hour until he kept on talking to his customers & taking money in. Normally the 4 line tattoo takes 12-15 minutes
Nobody speaks English so you should go there with someone who can speak Thai. I told them that I wanted to have a dragon - they showed me one picture, and that was it! He said he would improvise it, and having made a rough outline with a pen, he just started to DIG IN! Never had such a pain in my life - in total it took 12 hours over 3 days, but it was worth it! Two people constantly stretched my skin and shared my pain... I think it is very exhausting for them!
Good luck, and I hope you will get a tattoo by him. But everyone who is tattooed by the disciples get a blessing by Arjan. Amazing experience!
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Posted 2009-02-25 22:13:35
Yoyo777, on 2009-02-23 15:49:00, said:
I was at the Samnuk of Arjan Noo in December/January this year! You can go to his place anytime you want- but expect the place to be very busy and you may not get your tattoo on that day. Sometime it is completely empty - you just have to be lucky. You definitely need a car to get there.
Of course I wanted the tatoo from Arjan directly but it was way too expensive (well, if he tattooed me, then he would have to close the Samuk for a day and I have to pay all the cost they would have earned - asked for something like 20,000 Euro! A woman cannot show much skin in his place), so I was tattooed by Khun Kai, one of the first disciples of Arjan. He is such a talented artist, but don't expect them to be nice. First you have to negotiate the price with Arjan's little brother but they know that the foreigners have money so they will probably try to rip you off - Thais pay 1/3 of what Farangs pay...
Arjan still does ink tattoo, my friend got it from him directly. You cannot make any reservation. You just go, and wait for your turn. If you go to his disciples, then you cannot choose which one you want - you just go to the guy who is free. Khun Kai is definitely the best - Arjan's little brother, Khun Nid, is also a talented artist, but since he manages the finance of the operation, my husband had to wait for over an hour until he kept on talking to his customers & taking money in. Normally the 4 line tattoo takes 12-15 minutes
Nobody speaks English so you should go there with someone who can speak Thai. I told them that I wanted to have a dragon - they showed me one picture, and that was it! He said he would improvise it, and having made a rough outline with a pen, he just started to DIG IN! Never had such a pain in my life - in total it took 12 hours over 3 days, but it was worth it! Two people constantly stretched my skin and shared my pain... I think it is very exhausting for them!
Good luck, and I hope you will get a tattoo by him. But everyone who is tattooed by the disciples get a blessing by Arjan. Amazing experience!
Great story... any chance of you posting a picture of your tattoo?
Posted 2009-02-25 22:21:57
Yoyo777, on 2009-02-23 21:49:00, said:
stone cold, on 2005-11-21 18:23:05, said:
chownah, on 2005-11-21 12:53:28, said: There's a couple of threads on this topic already....use the search function and look for 'tattoo'.
<{POST_SNAPBACK}>
yup, been through various thread, but anyone has a tattoo done at wat bang pra before?
can we request for a tattoo at any time of the year or just during the festival?
or anyone has a tattoo done by aarjan Noo Khanpai(spelling??) I assume it will be much harder to get tattoo done by him as he is soo famous now... anyone any idea?
thanks
hector
I was at the Samnuk of Arjan Noo in December/January this year! http://arjannoo.com/ You can go to his place anytime you want- but expect the place to be very busy and you may not get your tattoo on that day. Sometime it is completely empty - you just have to be lucky. You definitely need a car to get there.
Of course I wanted the tatoo from Arjan directly but it was way too expensive (well, if he tattooed me, then he would have to close the Samuk for a day and I have to pay all the cost they would have earned - asked for something like 20,000 Euro! A woman cannot show much skin in his place), so I was tattooed by Khun Kai, one of the first disciples of Arjan. He is such a talented artist, but don't expect them to be nice. First you have to negotiate the price with Arjan's little brother but they know that the foreigners have money so they will probably try to rip you off - Thais pay 1/3 of what Farangs pay...
Arjan still does ink tattoo, my friend got it from him directly. You cannot make any reservation. You just go, and wait for your turn. If you go to his disciples, then you cannot choose which one you want - you just go to the guy who is free. Khun Kai is definitely the best - Arjan's little brother, Khun Nid, is also a talented artist, but since he manages the finance of the operation, my husband had to wait for over an hour until he kept on talking to his customers & taking money in. Normally the 4 line tattoo takes 12-15 minutes
Nobody speaks English so you should go there with someone who can speak Thai. I told them that I wanted to have a dragon - they showed me one picture, and that was it! He said he would improvise it, and having made a rough outline with a pen, he just started to DIG IN! Never had such a pain in my life - in total it took 12 hours over 3 days, but it was worth it! Two people constantly stretched my skin and shared my pain... I think it is very exhausting for them!
Good luck, and I hope you will get a tattoo by him. But everyone who is tattooed by the disciples get a blessing by Arjan. Amazing experience!
How much did you pay for your auspicious Ajarn Noo Sak Yant ?
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Posted 2009-02-25 22:44:21
oconnor13, on 2008-10-15 13:47:43, said:
I'm going to thailnad in january and am also lookin to get yan haa taew while i am there. i've been told wat bang pra doesn't do this specific yan and im not a big fan of the nine peaks tattoo... where did you get your yan done?
I'm also interested in at which Wat she has been in Tannawa, not for getting a Yarn Haa Taew but for a other Yant.
Edited by NuttyMokum, 2009-02-25 22:46:58.
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