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#1101 Superted187

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Posted 2009-04-28 19:02:16

View PostTheGhostWithin, on 2009-04-28 06:43:12, said:

Please look at Simon Burrowes facebook as earlier shown (I am not allowed to post the URL here apparently for some reason). I notice that Simon is a fan of a number of people, all of which are 'Black' (I DO hate using that term, sorry to offend anyone). Although politically incorrect, one may begin to think that maybe I am not racist, but that Simon is - he doesn't have any non-black male friends either. I am  white and live in New Zealand, I have many Indian, African, Thai, Chinese and Japanese friends. Perhaps (I know, just an assumption) Simon is one of these fellows that sees Asian people as people a level below themselves (yes, we've all come across these sorts of people).

This is completely false.

Half of the people in Simon's family aren't black.  You obviously took a selective look at his friends list.

Would somebody who was a racist travel to the other side of the world to study a martial art originally created by people who weren't from the race that he was?

Please think before you post wild suggestions like that.

The deflection here is amazing - the man's skin colour clearly worked worked against him.  One could argue that he was racially discriminated against.  And you are somehow managing to accuse him of being a racist?!? WOW!

#1102 Superted187

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Posted 2009-04-28 19:07:08

Sorry, I shouldn't come on here and have a negative first post in a while.

Thanks to all of you that showed support for Simon, and I mean all of you. You guys have been key because a lot of you are actually in Thailand, and have been for a very long time.

Its good to see that British values are still held up by some of us around the world.

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Posted 2009-04-28 19:07:47

View PostSuperted187, on 2009-04-28 19:02:16, said:

View PostTheGhostWithin, on 2009-04-28 06:43:12, said:

Please look at Simon Burrowes facebook as earlier shown (I am not allowed to post the URL here apparently for some reason). I notice that Simon is a fan of a number of people, all of which are 'Black' (I DO hate using that term, sorry to offend anyone). Although politically incorrect, one may begin to think that maybe I am not racist, but that Simon is - he doesn't have any non-black male friends either. I am  white and live in New Zealand, I have many Indian, African, Thai, Chinese and Japanese friends. Perhaps (I know, just an assumption) Simon is one of these fellows that sees Asian people as people a level below themselves (yes, we've all come across these sorts of people).

This is completely false.

Half of the people in Simon's family aren't black.  You obviously took a selective look at his friends list.

Would somebody who was a racist travel to the other side of the world to study a martial art originally created by people who weren't from the race that he was?

Please think before you post wild suggestions like that.

The deflection here is amazing - the man's skin colour clearly worked worked against him.  One could argue that he was racially discriminated against.  And you are somehow managing to accuse him of being a racist?!? WOW!


Apparently, TheGhostWithin's ghost within is a cracker, lol.

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Posted 2009-04-28 19:43:07

View Postsriracha john, on 2009-04-28 18:13:48, said:

View PostSabum, on 2009-04-28 15:45:01, said:

View Postsriracha john, on 2009-04-27 22:26:54, said:

So he's been in Bangkok for most of the time since he's been released? What's he been doing? Supporting himself? Is this a work permit violation situation in addition to his overstay issue now cropping up? This guy is a one-man crime wave... :unsure:

Why oh why would you post such a thing!?  Why not just add to your fantasy and say hes been in Bangkok murdering and robbing Thai people?  SERIOUSLY, what is wrong with you?  Crime wave... loses temper, and then in your fantasy works without a work permit, a hardened criminal on a crime wave spree, I would LOL but your silly attitude is no longer funny!

you take it far more seriously then necessary... if you couldn't see the facetiousness with which it was posted, perhaps by the time we get to 2000 posts, you will...

Your facetiousness is not obvious because you OFTEN post like that, criticising and jumping on innocent or good people because of your misinterpretation of events.  If mixed in there you are actually doing it on purpose to add some inappropriate humour... well it's going to be hard to notice the difference.

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Posted 2009-04-28 19:47:29

View PostSuperted187, on 2009-04-28 19:07:08, said:

Its good to see that British values are still held up by some of us around the world.

That's funny. Seems to me it was his oversized ego and very large British mouth that landed him in the mess.

Edited by Texpat, 2009-04-28 20:02:35.


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Posted 2009-04-28 20:00:12

Why is it that posts that debate something controversial like Paedophiles in LOS are closed down right away, yet this 1000 odd post slanging match with pretty much no facts whatsoever in it about one of the pettiest crimes someone could be found guilty of have been allowed to go on for so long, with this guys character torn apart on this forum?

#1107 Superted187

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Posted 2009-04-28 20:06:36

View PostTexpat, on 2009-04-28 12:47:29, said:

View PostSuperted187, on 2009-04-28 19:07:08, said:

Its good to see that British values are still held up by some of us around the world.

That's funny. Seems to me it was his oversized ego and very large British mouth that landed him in the mess.

And he wasn't at all provoked by the professionalism of the immigration staff was he?

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Posted 2009-04-28 20:20:19

best post on this thread was by The Scouser who summed up objectively, based on his experience, on what really happened and why it happened.

Just goes to show that one smart contributor can cut out 45 odd pages of hot air.....pity he didn't post earlier. Would have saved everyone lots of trouble.

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Posted 2009-04-28 20:25:22

Ok, we've had the good news. :D

So, here's the bad news. :o


SB is still in Phuket and Immigration are demanding 20,000 THB for overstaying!!!!

Great news for the Thai tourist industry when that news hits the papers WW tomorrow.

Thai Immi detain you and then fine you....... for overstaying, all is not well.

Just another shot in the foot for Thailand, it's a miracle Thailand can even limp! :D





Source: Sore Throat.

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Posted 2009-04-28 20:34:20

View PostGungaDin, on 2009-04-28 22:25:22, said:

Ok, we've had the good news. :D

So, here's the bad news. :o


SB is still in Phuket and Immigration are demanding 20,000 THB for overstaying!!!!

Great news for the Thai tourist industry when that news hits the papers WW tomorrow.

Thai Immi detain you and then fine you....... for overstaying, all is not well.

Just another shot in the foot for Thailand, it's a miracle Thailand can even limp! :D





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If Thailand were a centipede they'd have run out of feet to shoot themselves in bluddy years ago. Next they'll be shipping him off to the IDC. In virtually any other major tourist destination country in the world a high ranking minister would have got wind of this PR clusterf**k and been down to Phuket and kicked some a55 big time.

#1111 sriracha john

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Posted 2009-04-28 20:38:35

View PostSabum, on 2009-04-28 19:43:07, said:

View Postsriracha john, on 2009-04-28 18:13:48, said:

View PostSabum, on 2009-04-28 15:45:01, said:

View Postsriracha john, on 2009-04-27 22:26:54, said:

So he's been in Bangkok for most of the time since he's been released? What's he been doing? Supporting himself? Is this a work permit violation situation in addition to his overstay issue now cropping up? This guy is a one-man crime wave... :unsure:

Why oh why would you post such a thing!?  Why not just add to your fantasy and say hes been in Bangkok murdering and robbing Thai people?  SERIOUSLY, what is wrong with you?  Crime wave... loses temper, and then in your fantasy works without a work permit, a hardened criminal on a crime wave spree, I would LOL but your silly attitude is no longer funny!

you take it far more seriously then necessary... if you couldn't see the facetiousness with which it was posted, perhaps by the time we get to 2000 posts, you will...

Your facetiousness is not obvious because you OFTEN post like that, criticising and jumping on innocent or good people because of your misinterpretation of events.  


hahaha... when did I criticize innocent people because of my misinterpretation? Let alone... "OFTEN"

Edited by sriracha john, 2009-04-28 20:38:58.


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Posted 2009-04-28 20:43:41

A previous report here said he did apply for an extension of stay and was DENIED. If waiting for trial against your free will (when you are basically imprisoned in Thailand and not free to leave) is not a valid reason for getting an extension, then what is? This case makes me angry. At this point, after the shocking injustice Simon has been subject to, I wouldn't blame him one bit if he becomes  VERY RUDE indeed.

Edited by Jingthing, 2009-04-28 20:50:04.


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Posted 2009-04-28 23:49:47

View Postsamran, on 2009-04-28 20:20:19, said:

best post on this thread was by The Scouser who summed up objectively, based on his experience, on what really happened and why it happened.

Just goes to show that one smart contributor can cut out 45 odd pages of hot air.....pity he didn't post earlier. Would have saved everyone lots of trouble.

Seeking approbation is not necessarily the aim of my posts but I should like to point out that in this case the Scouser was simply echoing my erudition albeit in terms other less sophisticated readers might have more readily understood.

If you are going to dole out plaudits please do so more equably.

#1114 Jingthing

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Posted 2009-04-29 00:26:45

Geez! If you're gonna seek out "best of thread" praises (and I thought my life was meaningless) at least give the post number/link!

#1115 Pyraxiate

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Posted 2009-04-29 02:34:01

My Thai wife was wondering if this was the same man who wrote a book verbally degrading the King of Thailand ( Prior to entering the country)?  She said someone was being held there for this and she thought this may in be fact the same guy? Is this possibly why they detained him? I mean I know verbally assaulting someone as high up on the ladder as the King results in a death penalty ( or so I hear )

Any ideas?

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Posted 2009-04-29 03:00:52

View PostJingthing, on 2009-04-29 01:26:45, said:

Geez! If you're gonna seek out "best of thread" praises (and I thought my life was meaningless) at least give the post number/link!

Don't be so lazy! Just read any of my posts :o

Irony, irony.....

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Posted 2009-04-29 03:02:39

View PostPyraxiate, on 2009-04-29 03:34:01, said:

My Thai wife was wondering if this was the same man who wrote a book verbally degrading the King of Thailand ( Prior to entering the country)? She said someone was being held there for this and she thought this may in be fact the same guy? Is this possibly why they detained him? I mean I know verbally assaulting someone as high up on the ladder as the King results in a death penalty ( or so I hear )

Any ideas?

Are you demented?

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Posted 2009-04-29 03:17:53

View PostElectra, on 2009-04-28 16:02:39, said:

View PostPyraxiate, on 2009-04-29 03:34:01, said:

My Thai wife was wondering if this was the same man who wrote a book verbally degrading the King of Thailand ( Prior to entering the country)? She said someone was being held there for this and she thought this may in be fact the same guy? Is this possibly why they detained him? I mean I know verbally assaulting someone as high up on the ladder as the King results in a death penalty ( or so I hear )

Any ideas?

Are you demented?

de⋅ment⋅ed
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1. crazy; insane; mad.
2. affected with dementia.
Origin:
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Related forms:
de⋅ment⋅ed⋅ly, adverb
de⋅ment⋅ed⋅ness, noun

Synonyms:
1. lunatic, crazed, deranged, unbalanced.

Are you mentally handicapped?

Please note that I was ASKING if this was possibly the case... NOT STATING FACT!!!!!

Please learn to put a filter on your words before insulting someone. She had heard something pertaining to a gentleman from the UK who was being held for verbal slang from one of her relatives. We were ONLY asking if this was possible.... Hence  "My Thai wife was wondering if this was the same man who wrote a book verbally degrading the King of Thailand" ... or did you not actually read my very first sentence?

Anyway.....

Anyone with any actual input, Id appreciate proper comments ( not uneducated remarks ).

Thanks

Edited by Pyraxiate, 2009-04-29 03:21:04.


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Posted 2009-04-29 03:20:43

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Anyone with any actual input
Your wife is misinformed.

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Posted 2009-04-29 03:22:21

View PostPyraxiate, on 2009-04-29 03:17:53, said:

View PostElectra, on 2009-04-28 16:02:39, said:

View PostPyraxiate, on 2009-04-29 03:34:01, said:

My Thai wife was wondering if this was the same man who wrote a book verbally degrading the King of Thailand ( Prior to entering the country)? She said someone was being held there for this and she thought this may in be fact the same guy? Is this possibly why they detained him? I mean I know verbally assaulting someone as high up on the ladder as the King results in a death penalty ( or so I hear )

Any ideas?

Are you demented?

de⋅ment⋅ed
   /dɪˈmɛntɪd/ Show Spelled Pronunciation [di-men-tid] Show IPA
–adjective
1. crazy; insane; mad.
2. affected with dementia.
Origin:
1635–45; dement + -ed 2

Related forms:
de⋅ment⋅ed⋅ly, adverb
de⋅ment⋅ed⋅ness, noun

Synonyms:
1. lunatic, crazed, deranged, unbalanced.

Are you mentally handicapped?

Please note that I was ASKING if this was possibly the case... NOT STATING FACT!!!!!

Please learn to put a filter on your words before insulting someone. She had heard something pertaining to a gentleman from the UK who was being held for verbal slang from one of her relatives. We were ONLY asking if this was possible.... Hence  "My Thai wife was wondering if this was the same man who wrote a book verbally degrading the King of Thailand" ... or did you not actually read my very first sentence?

Anyway.....

Anyone with any actual input, Id appreciate proper comments ( not uneducated remarks ).

Thanks

Your Thai wife is confused.

#1121 Pyraxiate

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Posted 2009-04-29 03:24:41

View PostJingthing, on 2009-04-28 16:20:43, said:

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Anyone with any actual input
Your wife is misinformed.

Thank you for clearing this up. I did some research on google but to no avail. I didnt think so, however I was more or less trying to confirm. She couldnt believe her country could be so petty as to do something like this, and that there had to be a deeper reason.

Edited by Pyraxiate, 2009-04-29 03:25:17.


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Posted 2009-04-29 04:27:51

View PostPyraxiate, on 2009-04-29 03:24:41, said:

View PostJingthing, on 2009-04-28 16:20:43, said:

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Anyone with any actual input
Your wife is misinformed.

Thank you for clearing this up. I did some research on google but to no avail. I didnt think so, however I was more or less trying to confirm. She couldnt believe her country could be so petty as to do something like this, and that there had to be a deeper reason.
In a nushell, Phuket Immigration stuffed up and the British Embassy stuffed the Londoner, Phuket Immi  lost face in court and are now being very vindictive with a 20,000 bt fine for "överstaying".

#1123 Pyraxiate

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Posted 2009-04-29 05:07:41

Wow. My wife and I both agree that this is ridiculous and is making Thailand look bad. This kind of scares me because Ill be visiting soon enough with my in-laws.

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Posted 2009-04-29 05:48:37

View PostPyraxiate, on 2009-04-29 02:34:01, said:

Thank you for clearing this up. I did some research on google but to no avail. I didnt think so, however I was more or less trying to confirm. She couldnt believe her country could be so petty as to do something like this, and that there had to be a deeper reason.

Ya sit your wife down, hold her hand, look her in the eyes and inform her sadly that YES her country CAN and IS this petty.  Simon did nothing to deserve all that has befallen him, getting angry and raising his voice after intense provocation is NOT A CRIME.

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Posted 2009-04-29 07:22:14

View PostSabum, on 2009-04-29 05:48:37, said:

Simon did nothing to deserve all that has befallen him, getting angry and raising his voice after intense provocation is NOT A CRIME.

well in Simon's case it is, and he pleaded guilty to it :o



 


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