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#51 reason1

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Posted 2009-04-05 08:47:40

View Postgeorge, on 2009-04-05 03:04:25, said:

37-year-old woman mauled to death by 3 pit bull terriers
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NAKHON SAWAN: --  A woman was mauled to death by 3 pit bull terriers, which also injured her three relatives and killed another local dog, police said.

Police said Raksina Techawatanabamrungkij, 37, was killed late Friday night after she released the three pit bull terriers from the cage into the compound of her family's rice mill.

Her mother-in-law, Charoensri Lorlertrat, 53, her daughter, Thaweephan Lorlertrat, 20 months, and her brother-in-law, Satit Lorlertrat, 33, were injured by the dogs.

Charoensri told police that Raksina left the house to release the terriers from their cage at about midnight but she did not come back inside, prompting her daughter to cry.

Charoensri came out to look for her and found her badly-mauled body along with a local pet dog of the family.

The pit bull terriers then turned to attack Charoensri and her granddaughter. She cried for help and when her son came out to help, he was also attacked.

Eventually, Charoensri's husband, Seksuek Lorlertrat, came out to help and shot two terriers dead while the other one escaped.

-- The Nation 2009-04-05


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Posted 2009-04-05 08:50:17

View Postpetitewife, on 2009-04-05 06:37:25, said:

View Postgeorge, on 2009-04-05 03:04:25, said:

37-year-old woman mauled to death by 3 pit bull terriers
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NAKHON SAWAN: -- A woman was mauled to death by 3 pit bull terriers, which also injured her three relatives and killed another local dog, police said.

Police said Raksina Techawatanabamrungkij, 37, was killed late Friday night after she released the three pit bull terriers from the cage into the compound of her family's rice mill.

Her mother-in-law, Charoensri Lorlertrat, 53, her daughter, Thaweephan Lorlertrat, 20 months, and her brother-in-law, Satit Lorlertrat, 33, were injured by the dogs.

Charoensri told police that Raksina left the house to release the terriers from their cage at about midnight but she did not come back inside, prompting her daughter to cry.

Charoensri came out to look for her and found her badly-mauled body along with a local pet dog of the family.

The pit bull terriers then turned to attack Charoensri and her granddaughter. She cried for help and when her son came out to help, he was also attacked.

Eventually, Charoensri's husband, Seksuek Lorlertrat, came out to help and shot two terriers dead while the other one escaped.

-- The Nation 2009-04-05

These dogs have been caged for a period of time, well any caged animal will beocome aggressive over time, they are obviously security dogs, that are used during the night periods so what do you expect.
I have these breeds of dogs along with english bull terriers they are great family dogs we have a couple here in phuket and I have had many back home in Australia, which brings me to another questions why does every other country in the world have big problems with these breeds and home is Aus we very rarely hear anything of this nature about attacks.

Anyhow its horrible what happened to the poor lady.

It took me 5 seconds to find this and there have been many others.

http://www.news.com....11-2761,00.html

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Posted 2009-04-05 08:54:16

View Postsangfroid, on 2009-04-05 08:50:17, said:

View Postpetitewife, on 2009-04-05 06:37:25, said:

View Postgeorge, on 2009-04-05 03:04:25, said:

37-year-old woman mauled to death by 3 pit bull terriers
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NAKHON SAWAN: -- A woman was mauled to death by 3 pit bull terriers, which also injured her three relatives and killed another local dog, police said.

Police said Raksina Techawatanabamrungkij, 37, was killed late Friday night after she released the three pit bull terriers from the cage into the compound of her family's rice mill.

Her mother-in-law, Charoensri Lorlertrat, 53, her daughter, Thaweephan Lorlertrat, 20 months, and her brother-in-law, Satit Lorlertrat, 33, were injured by the dogs.

Charoensri told police that Raksina left the house to release the terriers from their cage at about midnight but she did not come back inside, prompting her daughter to cry.

Charoensri came out to look for her and found her badly-mauled body along with a local pet dog of the family.

The pit bull terriers then turned to attack Charoensri and her granddaughter. She cried for help and when her son came out to help, he was also attacked.

Eventually, Charoensri's husband, Seksuek Lorlertrat, came out to help and shot two terriers dead while the other one escaped.

-- The Nation 2009-04-05

These dogs have been caged for a period of time, well any caged animal will beocome aggressive over time, they are obviously security dogs, that are used during the night periods so what do you expect.
I have these breeds of dogs along with english bull terriers they are great family dogs we have a couple here in phuket and I have had many back home in Australia, which brings me to another questions why does every other country in the world have big problems with these breeds and home is Aus we very rarely hear anything of this nature about attacks.

Anyhow its horrible what happened to the poor lady.

It took me 5 seconds to find this and there have been many others.

http://www.news.com....11-2761,00.html


And this
<h3 class="blogdate">Friday, March 14, 2008</h3> <h2 class="blogtitle">Australia continues to feel the pain of pit bulls</h2>    Staffy and Pit Mixes Maul Man Like a Pig
Australia - Three dogs severely mauled a Mareeba man "like he was a pig" yesterday morning. Rescuers say they would have killed him if no one was around to help. The man, believed to be 40, remains in Cairns Base Hospital after undergoing surgery to treat severe bite marks to his legs, arms and stomach.

The man was walking along Doyle St about 9.45am when the animals jumped a front yard fence and lunged at him. Connie and Steve Miller witnessed the savage mauling from their duplex across the road.

"They just wouldn’t let go," said Mrs. Miller. "They were chasing him like he was a pig."

The dogs dragged the man to the ground and bit him repeatedly. He lay curled in a ball but was helpless to fend them off. Mr. Miller grabbed a rake and ran out to fight off the dogs. The Millers quickly called triple 0 and then tore up a sheet to strap the man’s wounds.

"You should’ve seen all the blood coming out of him," she said. "He was just bleeding like a bullock. If we didn’t put the sheet on him, he would’ve bled to death."

Nearby resident Shianne Kynuna said the dogs that attacked the man had jumped the fence and menaced her children in the past. She said the dogs make a lot of people in the community very frightened to walk by the house.

Council by-laws give rangers the power to destroy dogs if they are declared dangerous. The two staffordshire-crosses and the pit bull-cross that attacked him are expected to be destroyed as early as today.

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Posted 2009-04-05 08:56:56

Whist being saddened to hear of such an event I believe that     a notice should be attached to these and similar dogs for sale: Pit Bulls have been bred from ancient English fighting dogs which were trained to fight other dogs to death and attack Bulls as they  can turn dangerous due to inbreeding buy at your own risk!

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Posted 2009-04-05 09:03:57

When I was a kid had to get the police in to deal with three that had gone nuts in my street and killed several other animals, including one of mine, which was left in a mangled pile of gore outside our front door. The dogs were well looked after and came from a household with small kids. Personally I think the breed has a nasty streak and occassionally flips out.

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Posted 2009-04-05 09:06:08

View PostInterman, on 2009-04-05 06:37:05, said:

So many people who post on here that dont know what they are talking about. Have you been in consistent contact with one of this breed to make a fair opinion?? probably not.

Alot like people who post on things about Thais and their Thai culture but cant read or even speak Thai and hold a conversation.

Do you even know how Thais treat their fuc_kin dogs??? Beleive it or not, there are lots of pitties in Thailand and this is the first case I heard of. It could even be a case of Rabies, rampid in Thailand and highly contagious.

But an opinion is like an asshol_e,, everyone has one.

Glad to see from your last line that you understand your own opinion.

It is unfortunate that a Thai family went through what this family went through.  Your post appears to be making that statement that owning a pit bull is part of Thai culture.  Considering that pit bulls did not originate in Thailand, and are in fact a relatively new breed, I don't see how it's part of the culture - unless you equate them with cock fighting.
Quote: "and this is the first case I heard of."  How sad that you have heard so little.  From August, 2008:  http://www.monstersa...ce_for_training
See, there's another one.  
Without references, you are just an anecdote.  From the same website, 33 people were mauled to death by pit bulls in the United States, in which most states hold the owners accountable for second-degree murder.
Your argument sounds analagous to saying, "my uncle has been driving drunk for 20 years, and has never killed anyone, so drunk driving shouldn't be illegal."  
I sincerely hope you never have to go through what this family has.

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Posted 2009-04-05 09:13:36

Saturday 28 March a 6 year old girl was killed in France (Chalons-en-Champagne near Reims) by two German shepard dogs.
The girl apparently went into the dogs kennel.
So it's not only pit bull terriers, all dogs are potentially dangerous for children and adults alike.

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Posted 2009-04-05 09:14:24

I am very sad for the loss that this family suffered. It was entirely preventable.

I own pitbulls in Thailand and have for many years. The dogs are ALWAYS either chained up or on leash or sleep on my bed, even though I live on fenced property with barbed wire - not to keep people out, but to keep the dogs in. I use them as guard dogs and they are very effective (although there are better). They have undergone months of professional training, but I still would not trust my boys for one second. Ever.

They are dangerous dogs and can be very unpredictable. They are also very smart, escape artists and can be extremely aggressive towards other dogs.

But who decided these dogs that attacked were pitbulls? I'm not saying they weren't, but all too often the term "pitbull" is used because it's convenient. Very few so called "pitbulls" in Thailand would be consider pitbulls elsewhere. They are often interbred with other dogs on the street, or just mongrels.

Pitbulls were bred to fight in the pit - hence the name. In the pit when they fight are 2 handlers. Pitbulls were not bred to attack people and a well bred pitbull is good with people, but very bad with other dogs - especially other male dogs. Any pitbull that shows aggression to people, or has been trained that way, I'm sorry to say, should be put down immediately. Thuglife is almost 100% responsible for promoting the tough, aggressive pitbull as a status symbol - kind of the same way a revolver stuck in a waistband.

My observation in Thailand is that pitbulls are not given the respect that they deserve. The can be bought at Chatuchuk market where they are beautiful puppies. Somchai buys one and its great for 6 months, plays with the kids and other dogs, is never fenced. One day it will reach a point where he wants to be the alpha male - and he will snap - and Somchai will laugh as his dog is the toughest in the soi, and its all the dogs fault when it bites the face of his 3 year old daughter.

Pitbulls need very strict regulation, as do all dangerous breeds. Just like a gun, pitbulls should be licensed and Owner and his house checked for suitability and the dogs need to be trained.

I can understand the outrage of people who continually see the results of "pitbull" attacks. Supporters of pitbulls keep spouting the same lines of "its the owners fault" or "all dogs can be dangerous". Fact is, pitbulls are potentially very, very dangerous dogs and should be strictly regulated and Owners held responsible for the dogs behavior.

This will be my last pitbulls. They are a stressful dog to own and while my boys are great dogs with me and have never once showed any signs of aggression to me or my family, I can't say it enough, these dogs can never be trusted for even a moment.

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Posted 2009-04-05 09:16:33

Wondering aloud at this terrible tragedy.

I believe that no dog, not even a Pit Bull, would attack or still less kill its owner unless it had been mistreated.

These three dogs appear to have been caged and kept as guard dogs and my guess is that they were caged all day while customers were coming in and out and only let out at night (sorry for the speculation).  Caging a dog for long periods is in itself mistreatment.  I wonder what else the owners might have done to them?

If you keep a fighting dog for guard purposes it is like owning a gun.  If you mistreat that dog it is like having a loaded gun. But the owner was probably not trained to use it and isn't required to hold a licence either.

The owner also kept a loaded gun in his house (which he used to shoot two of the dogs). Wonder if he was trained to use that and had a licence too?

I wonder if the owner who lost his wife will now be arrested for murder?

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Posted 2009-04-05 09:24:53

View PostSir_Sanuk, on 2009-04-05 05:57:44, said:

i have also seen a young girl attacked by a pit bull. depsite what their loving owners might say these animals are not pets.. they are savage dogs bred for violence. for want of better words, please put these fuc_kers down.

couldnt agree more ,if you want a pit bull keep it away from everybody except yourself ,then when it attacks you ,you have only yourself to blame

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Posted 2009-04-05 09:30:29

View PostDLock, on 2009-04-05 09:14:24, said:

I am very sad for the loss that this family suffered. It was entirely preventable.

My observation in Thailand is that pitbulls are not given the respect that they deserve. The can be bought at Chatuchuk market where they are beautiful puppies. Somchai buys one and its great for 6 months, plays with the kids and other dogs, is never fenced. One day it will reach a point where he wants to be the alpha male - and he will snap - and Somchai will laugh as his dog is the toughest in the soi, and its all the dogs fault when it bites the face of his 3 year old daughter.

Pitbulls need very strict regulation, as do all dangerous breeds. Just like a gun, pitbulls should be licensed and Owner and his house checked for suitability and the dogs need to be trained.

I can understand the outrage of people who continually see the results of "pitbull" attacks. Supporters of pitbulls keep spouting the same lines of "its the owners fault" or "all dogs can be dangerous". Fact is, pitbulls are potentially very, very dangerous dogs and should be strictly regulated and Owners held responsible for the dogs behavior.

Excellent observation.  Great post.

For the record, Staffordshire Terriers were bred in England in the 19th century.  These dogs were later taken to the USA where similar dogs with some differences were registered in 1936 as American Staffordshire Terriers or Amstaffs for short.  From this dog (Amstaff) the Pit Bull was bred specifically for fighting and breeders of Pit Bulls today will never mix the bloodline with Amstaffs.  Their characteristics are becoming more and more varied over time.  Unfortunately some people confuse Staffies with Amstaffs with Pit Bulls, but folks please understand that Pit Bulls ARE different.

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Posted 2009-04-05 09:30:37

View Postsangfroid, on 2009-04-05 08:54:16, said:

View Postsangfroid, on 2009-04-05 08:50:17, said:

View Postpetitewife, on 2009-04-05 06:37:25, said:

View Postgeorge, on 2009-04-05 03:04:25, said:

37-year-old woman mauled to death by 3 pit bull terriers
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NAKHON SAWAN: -- A woman was mauled to death by 3 pit bull terriers, which also injured her three relatives and killed another local dog, police said.

Police said Raksina Techawatanabamrungkij, 37, was killed late Friday night after she released the three pit bull terriers from the cage into the compound of her family's rice mill.

Her mother-in-law, Charoensri Lorlertrat, 53, her daughter, Thaweephan Lorlertrat, 20 months, and her brother-in-law, Satit Lorlertrat, 33, were injured by the dogs.

Charoensri told police that Raksina left the house to release the terriers from their cage at about midnight but she did not come back inside, prompting her daughter to cry.

Charoensri came out to look for her and found her badly-mauled body along with a local pet dog of the family.

The pit bull terriers then turned to attack Charoensri and her granddaughter. She cried for help and when her son came out to help, he was also attacked.

Eventually, Charoensri's husband, Seksuek Lorlertrat, came out to help and shot two terriers dead while the other one escaped.

-- The Nation 2009-04-05

These dogs have been caged for a period of time, well any caged animal will beocome aggressive over time, they are obviously security dogs, that are used during the night periods so what do you expect.
I have these breeds of dogs along with english bull terriers they are great family dogs we have a couple here in phuket and I have had many back home in Australia, which brings me to another questions why does every other country in the world have big problems with these breeds and home is Aus we very rarely hear anything of this nature about attacks.

Anyhow its horrible what happened to the poor lady.

It took me 5 seconds to find this and there have been many others.

http://www.news.com....11-2761,00.html


And this
<h3 class="blogdate">Friday, March 14, 2008</h3> <h2 class="blogtitle">Australia continues to feel the pain of pit bulls</h2> Staffy and Pit Mixes Maul Man Like a Pig
Australia - Three dogs severely mauled a Mareeba man "like he was a pig" yesterday morning. Rescuers say they would have killed him if no one was around to help. The man, believed to be 40, remains in Cairns Base Hospital after undergoing surgery to treat severe bite marks to his legs, arms and stomach.

The man was walking along Doyle St about 9.45am when the animals jumped a front yard fence and lunged at him. Connie and Steve Miller witnessed the savage mauling from their duplex across the road.

"They just wouldn't let go," said Mrs. Miller. "They were chasing him like he was a pig."

The dogs dragged the man to the ground and bit him repeatedly. He lay curled in a ball but was helpless to fend them off. Mr. Miller grabbed a rake and ran out to fight off the dogs. The Millers quickly called triple 0 and then tore up a sheet to strap the man's wounds.

"You should've seen all the blood coming out of him," she said. "He was just bleeding like a bullock. If we didn't put the sheet on him, he would've bled to death."

Nearby resident Shianne Kynuna said the dogs that attacked the man had jumped the fence and menaced her children in the past. She said the dogs make a lot of people in the community very frightened to walk by the house.

Council by-laws give rangers the power to destroy dogs if they are declared dangerous. The two staffordshire-crosses and the pit bull-cross that attacked him are expected to be destroyed as early as today.
And if you have a bit of time just search for Pitt Bull Terrier attacks, there is about
736000 listings just on Google alone. Not bad for a harmless breed :o

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Posted 2009-04-05 09:40:37

View PostInterman, on 2009-04-05 00:37:05, said:

So many people who post on here that dont know what they are talking about. Have you been in consistent contact with one of this breed to make a fair opinion?? probably not.

Alot like people who post on things about Thais and their Thai culture but cant read or even speak Thai and hold a conversation.

Do you even know how Thais treat their fuc_kin dogs??? Beleive it or not, there are lots of pitties in Thailand and this is the first case I heard of. It could even be a case of Rabies, rampid in Thailand and highly contagious.

But an opinion is like an asshol_e,, everyone has one.

Contact? You mean: only believe what you can touch? Come off it -- isn't there "proof" enough with newspaper articles every few weeks of someone mauled or children killed? Every country should put a ban on breeding them (those that haven't done so already), and within one generation, you could add pitbulls and Rottweilers to the list of extinct species. Allowing them is about as stupid as allowing everyone to have their own gun(s)...

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Posted 2009-04-05 09:59:23

Where is Amanda on this? She lived in Phuket with her to babies (pair of Pit Bulls) Maybe they ate her?


About 300,000 stray dogs live on Bangkok's streets, local animal charities estimate, while Thais are

increasingly keeping dogs as pets.



One, you can not train out the bad qualities of a pit bull
Two you can not love out the bad qualities of a pit bull
Three you can not wish out the bad qualities of a pit bull

There is nothing you can do to change  the bad qualities of a pit bull. PERIOD

You can not breed out the bad qualities of a pit bull, no?  :o



Dogs kill woman at horse farm
Two dogs attacked and killed a female worker yesterday at a horse-breeding farm in Buddhamondhol district.Published on December 5, 2007

Shen, 51, described the dogs as non-aggressive and he had never seen them bite anyone before.
"I had never imagined that such an attack would happen," Shen said,Both Beckham and Bamboo were a mixed

breed of 'Bang Kaew' and pitbull terrier.

There are plenty of stories about these dogs and cross breeds of them
NOTE: in some places if you own one you must carry a US$50,000 liability polocy

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Posted 2009-04-05 09:59:37

Pits are extremely unpredictable, as a general rule, if they have been trained to be more agressive then they become a weapon. Why do you think drug dealers in the us use them to protect stash houses? I can guarantee It isnt because they are sweet animals. Yeah the argument that i had a pitbull and it never attacked me is pointless, you could just as easily replace the word pitbull with lion, bear, crocodile... plenty of people own animals like that and dont ever get attacked, but it dosent make them any less dangerous

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Posted 2009-04-05 10:06:44

View Postgeorge, on 2009-04-05 03:04:25, said:

37-year-old woman mauled to death by 3 pit bull terriers
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NAKHON SAWAN: -- A woman was mauled to death by 3 pit bull terriers, which also injured her three relatives and killed another local dog, police said.

Police said Raksina Techawatanabamrungkij, 37, was killed late Friday night after she released the three pit bull terriers from the cage into the compound of her family's rice mill.

Her mother-in-law, Charoensri Lorlertrat, 53, her daughter, Thaweephan Lorlertrat, 20 months, and her brother-in-law, Satit Lorlertrat, 33, were injured by the dogs.

Charoensri told police that Raksina left the house to release the terriers from their cage at about midnight but she did not come back inside, prompting her daughter to cry.

Charoensri came out to look for her and found her badly-mauled body along with a local pet dog of the family.

The pit bull terriers then turned to attack Charoensri and her granddaughter. She cried for help and when her son came out to help, he was also attacked.

Eventually, Charoensri's husband, Seksuek Lorlertrat, came out to help and shot two terriers dead while the other one escaped.

-- The Nation 2009-04-05

I love this country very much and it became my home. A Pitt bull is a killing machine..why would you have three? I was thinking about people in Europe, brainless, but a Pit Bull to show how strong they are. I feel sorry for the woman and all others who were injured.

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Posted 2009-04-05 10:20:28

These dogs were bred for this so its no good saying Its the irresponsble owners..These dogs will do this ..Even if you think you know one that is different they are still capable of this and when its too late as in this case......Don't have one and keep away from them..After all a sheep dog is bred to herd sheep and if you have one or know one you will know you cannot stop them doing it!!!!!!!!!!!
I will not judge the owners here as they have lost a member of their family but if they did not have them this would not have happened..
Condolences to the family

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Posted 2009-04-05 10:27:40

View Postmarkokang, on 2009-04-05 08:13:34, said:

In New Zealand people are prosecuted and even sent to jail for dog attacks. They are solely responsible for their actions.
http://nziaco.co.nz/main.php?id=65

Here in Thailand I take people to hospital weekly with dog bites. I once tried to inform the local council and they were not interested. And obviously, as usual, the local police were not interested either. I have given up trying to get anything done by the authorities.
There are dogs all over BKK terrorizing people but nothing is ever done. Amazingly people call my group daily to catch harmless snakes(non-poisonous) and other animals, but never dogs! They seem to have a revered place in Thai society.

I have it from Thai friends that they believe dogs, and soi dogs in particular, are the reborn souls of monks who were bad in their last lives...and who in Thailand would hurt a monk?? :o

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Posted 2009-04-05 10:29:16

View PostOILMAN13, on 2009-04-05 05:43:50, said:

SORRY, BUT THAT BEHAVIOR IS NOT STEREOTYPICAL OF ANY BREED. THE OWNERS AND WHOEVER TRAINED THESE DOGS ARE SOLELY RESPONSIBLE. PERIOD!


I agree with this, unfortunately it seems that MOST people that own these dogs anywhere in the world, have them to train them for attacking.......and in Thailand considering how the people here treat the dogs they supposedly love, I'm not surprised.

I just spent two days at Kasetsart animal hospital with our dog and my observation there was that even people that seem to love their animals are consistently raising their hands to them while making a noise in their throat and a menacing look on their faces, even if they don't intend on actually hitting them, the animal doesn't feel happy or secure.  The instance yesterday was with a cat......which respond totally different than dogs......but here this woman was acting like she was going to hit it.  The poor thing had just had surgery. Sickening.

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Posted 2009-04-05 10:32:58

Sounds like these dog's were kept to guard the rice mill, they turned on her .

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Posted 2009-04-05 10:33:52

View PostOILMAN13, on 2009-04-05 05:43:50, said:

SORRY, BUT THAT BEHAVIOR IS NOT STEREOTYPICAL OF ANY BREED. THE OWNERS AND WHOEVER TRAINED THESE DOGS ARE SOLELY RESPONSIBLE. PERIOD!

Hey Oilman, I've trained my pet cobra not to bite. Care to look after it when I go away on my hols?

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Posted 2009-04-05 10:39:53

Being a Pitbull owner i would have to agree with most of the negative post's on this thread.

My Pitbull is a sweet simplton, very well behaved and affectionate with myself and my imediate family members aswell as our other dogs.

Saying that though he will attack any other strange dogs who he comes into contact with.

I would say that his intelligence is below normal even for his breed and i would not trust him for a second with kids or people he is not familiar with.

I would'nt recommened a pitbull for a family pet as they are extremely high matainence and you need the correct enviroment and infostucture to keep them. I am considering putting mine down, as he is a huge liabity as is any dog you cannot trust one hundred percent.

In my village and all around thailand people are bitten daily by dogs who's owners let them wander the streets and beaches. In my view these dogs and their owners are the real issue.

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Posted 2009-04-05 10:40:34

View PostAsiaCheese, on 2009-04-05 09:40:37, said:

View PostInterman, on 2009-04-05 00:37:05, said:

So many people who post on here that dont know what they are talking about. Have you been in consistent contact with one of this breed to make a fair opinion?? probably not.

Alot like people who post on things about Thais and their Thai culture but cant read or even speak Thai and hold a conversation.

Do you even know how Thais treat their fuc_kin dogs??? Beleive it or not, there are lots of pitties in Thailand and this is the first case I heard of. It could even be a case of Rabies, rampid in Thailand and highly contagious.

But an opinion is like an asshol_e,, everyone has one.

Contact? You mean: only believe what you can touch? Come off it -- isn't there "proof" enough with newspaper articles every few weeks of someone mauled or children killed? Every country should put a ban on breeding them (those that haven't done so already), and within one generation, you could add pitbulls and Rottweilers to the list of extinct species. Allowing them is about as stupid as allowing everyone to have their own gun(s)...

Steady on! Plllease don't get your metaphors mixed up! Dogs kill people by themselves...guns are just machines...like aeroplanes and cars :o

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Posted 2009-04-05 10:43:24

View Postpetitewife, on 2009-04-05 06:37:25, said:

View Postgeorge, on 2009-04-05 03:04:25, said:

37-year-old woman mauled to death by 3 pit bull terriers
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NAKHON SAWAN: -- A woman was mauled to death by 3 pit bull terriers, which also injured her three relatives and killed another local dog, police said.

Police said Raksina Techawatanabamrungkij, 37, was killed late Friday night after she released the three pit bull terriers from the cage into the compound of her family's rice mill.

Her mother-in-law, Charoensri Lorlertrat, 53, her daughter, Thaweephan Lorlertrat, 20 months, and her brother-in-law, Satit Lorlertrat, 33, were injured by the dogs.

Charoensri told police that Raksina left the house to release the terriers from their cage at about midnight but she did not come back inside, prompting her daughter to cry.

Charoensri came out to look for her and found her badly-mauled body along with a local pet dog of the family.

The pit bull terriers then turned to attack Charoensri and her granddaughter. She cried for help and when her son came out to help, he was also attacked.

Eventually, Charoensri's husband, Seksuek Lorlertrat, came out to help and shot two terriers dead while the other one escaped.

-- The Nation 2009-04-05

These dogs have been caged for a period of time, well any caged animal will beocome aggressive over time, they are obviously security dogs, that are used during the night periods so what do you expect.
I have these breeds of dogs along with english bull terriers they are great family dogs we have a couple here in phuket and I have had many back home in Australia, which brings me to another questions why does every other country in the world have big problems with these breeds and home is Aus we very rarely hear anything of this nature about attacks.

Anyhow its horrible what happened to the poor lady.

LOL, sorry but you are wrong.


MELBOURNE, March 29, 2001 - Animal welfare groups today called for a ban on pit bull
terriers in Victoria following a report that secret bush camps throughout the state were
being used to breed dogs designed to maim and kill.

Pit bulls are banned in Australia since March 10, 2006
"Legislation and implementation dates varies across the different states, but here is the start of a list of the legislation in the various states: New South Wales, Victoria, Western Australia, Queensland, Australian Capital Territory, Northern Territory, South Australia, Tasmania."

HOWEVER, there is a loophole in the laws that allowed banned breeds such as pit bulls to be registered as a cross-breed.


Here some news I found via google:

September 11, 2005: Family to sue over vicious pit bull attack
Jordan Wisby was attacked by the dog while walking the 400-metre stretch home from his primary school at Illawong, in Sydney's south, in April. Jordan suffered multiple lacerations to his head, throat, left arm and back during the attack.


November 22, 2007: Women nearly killed by Bull Mastiffs
Two bull mastiffs set on Mrs Cotter after she climbed into the backyard of a Mandurah house to tend to a whimpering puppy. When police arrived, she was lying facedown on the ground as the dogs mauled her. Police used a taser stun gun but it only aggravated the animals further.


January 05, 2008: Pitbulls attack woman walking poodle
An elderly Mandurah woman was mauled by an American Staffordshire Bull Terrier in the driveway of her home on Friday night.

Wed Jan 9, 2008: Pit bull attacks boy, 12
A 12-year-old boy has been taken to Royal Darwin Hospital by ambulance after being attacked by a pit bull late this afternoon.

Acting Sergeant Ghulam Abbas says the owners feel bad about the attack.
"It's something that they were never expecting," he said.
"It's like a family dog, been with the family for a long time, and they can't say why this dog has actually attacked the kid.
"There's no apparent reason, it's out of character."



Sun Jan 20, 2008: Escaped pit bulls kill horse
Rangers are investigating an incident in which two pit bull terriers attacked and killed a horse at a property south of Perth.


Thursday, February 14, 2008
Australia - Counselor Mike Scarlett, writes an insightful piece after his neighbors witnessed a brutal pit bull attack that killed their donkey.


Wednesday, February 20, 2008: Attack dog nailed by tradie
Australia - A tradesman saved the lives of two women being attacked by a pitbull by shooting it between the eyes with a nail gun. The man said he acted on instinct when he killed the animal, which was attacking a 17-year-old girl and her 43-year-old female relative. He and a partner were working in the area when they heard the cries in the front yard of a home in Greystanes yesterday.


Friday, March 14, 2008
Australia - Three dogs severely mauled a Mareeba man "like he was a pig" yesterday morning. Rescuers say they would have killed him if no one was around to help. The two staffordshire-crosses and the pitbull-cross that attacked him are expected to be destroyed as early as today. The man was walking along Doyle St about 9.45am when the animals jumped a front yard fence and lunged at him.

Interesting here: "People say he attacked your sister, doesn't that change the way you feel about him?' It doesn't change the way I feel," the owner told News Limited. "They only see this attack, they don't know the joy he brought into our lives. For the past 12 months he's been the best and most exciting thing in my life.


Another comment to one of the news I read:
"I believe it is purely instincts. Pit bull attacks in Australia are so bad it is the law that all pit bulls must be muzzled and on a leash in public...I was walking my own dog (3 year old Jack Russell) when a pit bull approached without leash or muzzle. It appeared friendly and its tail was wagging (which is usually the sign the dog is not in an aggressive mood) but within seconds it had locked its jaws on my dogs face...."


Also interesting is this statistics from the US from 2008:
http://www.dogsbite....lities-2008.htm
"23 U.S. fatal dog attacks occurred in 2008. Pit bull type dogs were responsible for 65% (15). Pit bulls make up approximately 2-9% of the U.S. dog population[b]"
"[b]78% of the attacks occurred on owner property and 22% off owner property. ALL off property attacks that resulted in death were attributed to pit bulls.
"


I think the main reason why these dogs are so much hated and feared my the majority of people is, that they can KILL so easily, they have one of the strongest bites and are known (bred for) not to let go. Every pet owner loves their pet and stands up for it - protects it - I can understand anyone who has a pit bull or the like saying what they are saying - my dog is nice, it depends on the owner, it is a family dog and plays  with my children, etc. However, you should have known better before even considering getting such a vicious animal, which is in my point of view NOT a pet. There is no other dog breed in the world that has killed as many children as a pit bull, and that alone is reason enough never to have one.

I researched only Australian news now (as I wanted to see if the claim above was true), but I came across A LOT of news from around the world where a pit bull, bull mastiff, staffordshire (sorry if spelled wrong) etc had killed children and adults as well.

Edited by jbhh, 2009-04-05 10:58:04.


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Posted 2009-04-05 10:47:45

We have 2 pit bulls here in Thailand... they are about 1 year old (brother and sister). I did not want to get them, but the family really wanted them and the puppies were very cute. I put my foot down when they wanted to clip the dog's ears.. how inhumane. We treat them with as much love and respect as any other dog. I don't think they will be a problem, but we do still keep them on chains nearly all the time. So far these dogs are just as friendly as any other... in fact it's our Thai Ridgeback that is the one biting people... and the Siberian Husky has gone to eating the neighbor's chickens.



 


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