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Posted 2009-05-07 13:30:10
West Seattle Woman Mysteriously Dies In Thailand
SEATTLE -- A 27-year-old West Seattle woman mysteriously died over the weekend in Thailand.
Jill St. Onge and her fiancé Ryan Kells were on vacation traveling through Southeast Asia.
According to the couple’s blog, ......................, they had been staying in a bungalow on the island of Koh Phi Phi for six days when they decided to move into an air-conditioned room.
St. Onge had stayed in the room while Kells made several trips in and out of the room, according to the blog. Kells said St. Onge wasn’t feeling well and said she was going to lay down in their room. Kells stayed out with friends.
When he returned to the room two hours later, Kells said St. Onge was vomiting and very ill. Kells said he also was feeling sick.
Kells said he then ran outside, found a cart and put St. Onge in it, running to the hospital.
"I ran with her as far as I could, as fast as I could. When it looked like she was going," Kells said, “I tried so hard I don’t know what else I could have done."
Doctors performed CPR on St. Onge, but couldn’t revive her.
"I feel she was chemically poisoned by some sort of gas in the air," Kells said.
At the same time in a room next door, two Norwegian tourists were also becoming ill. A 22-year-old died and her friend is still hospitalized.
A Norwegian newspaper reported Wednesday that the 22-year-old had cyanide in her system, causing her death.
St. Onge’s brother posted a message on the Internet and her friends are doing interviews, hoping Thai officials will investigate.
Kells is a Seattle glass artist and St. Onge worked at the Shadowland Bar in West Seattle.
"I don’t think it’s going to set in until Ryan comes home and she doesn’t come home," said friend Sean Welch.
A paper in Thailand is also reporting two more mysterious deaths on Koh Phi Phi island in the last several weeks.
- KIRO-TV News (Seattle, Washington, USA) / 2009-05-06
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MODS:
As this thread is now covering, as a minimum, the confirmed American woman's death, please consider retitling thread.
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Norwegian Woman And American Woman Die Of Unknown Causes on Koh Phi Phi
Edited by LivinginKata, 2009-05-07 14:10:18.
Blog URL removed from news article
Posted 2009-05-07 13:42:17
now cyanide - extremely mysterious!
heard it from the grapevine that there is a custom to "fish" with arsenic....
but cyanide from the a/c...?
Posted 2009-05-07 13:46:53
 Samuian, on 2009-05-07 13:42:17, said:
now cyanide - extremely mysterious!
heard it from the grapevine that there is a custom to "fish" with arsenic....
but cyanide from the a/c...?
Not correct. Arsenic acts much too slowly to catch fish. Cyanide is used for illegal fishing around coral reefs, yes.
Posted 2009-05-07 14:24:37
faranginbkk, on 2009-05-07 13:46:53, said: Samuian, on 2009-05-07 13:42:17, said: now cyanide - extremely mysterious!
heard it from the grapevine that there is a custom to "fish" with arsenic....
but cyanide from the a/c...?
Not correct. Arsenic acts much too slowly to catch fish. Cyanide is used for illegal fishing around coral reefs, yes.
There was a reported case of dynamite and cyanide fishing at the world famous dive site of Hin Duaeng years ago. Those responsible were quickly caught and dealt with very severly. As far as I know there hasn't been a single reported case since certainly not on the coral reefs around Phi Phi island.
Posted 2009-05-07 14:25:05
-- Phuket Gazette 2009-05-07
Thursday, May 7, 2009
Mystery illness kills foreign tourists on Phi Phi
KRABI: Two foreign tourists have mysteriously died and two others are seriously ill from unknown causes after holidaying on Phi Phi Island.
Much speculation surrounds the circumstances of the deaths as authorities have yet to make any official statements regarding the matter.
Press Attache at the US Embassy in Bangkok Michael Turner told the Gazette that US citizen Jill St. Onge, 26, died on May 2, shortly after being taken to hospital by her boyfriend Ryan Kells, who also fell ill.
Both tourists were vomiting severely before Miss St. Onge's admission to hospital.
Her family have set up a blog website to publicize the story. Writing on that site, Mr Kells said he suspected the air conditioning in their hotel room was responsible for making them ill and believes he survived because he had spent less time in the room than Miss St. Onge.
"... I kept getting these breaks from the air in the room, while Jill kept staying in bed. She was exposed to the air in the room for probably five or six more hours than I was," he wrote.
The following day, the same room was rented out to two Norwegian women, both of whom developed the same symptoms.
The Norwegian Ambassador to Thailand, Merete Brattested, confirmed that Julie Michelle Bergheim, 22, died on May 4 in Bangkok Hospital Phuket.
Her friend is recovering at Bangkok Phuket Hospital. However, hospital staff refused to give out any information apart from confirming that a seriously ill Norwegian female had been admitted but she would not receive visitors or speak to anyone.
Phi Phi Island Hospital Director Dr Buncha Khakong said that the cause of both deaths is being investigated by the Department of Disease Control in Bangkok.
"I guessed something they consumed caused them to die but I cannot say clearly until we receive the lab results," he said.
A police inquiry is now under way. The bodies of both of the deceased are understood to have been sent to Bangkok for autopsy.
Meanwhile, the popular Thaivisa.com community forum is active with posters speculating over the cause of the deaths. Poisoned drinks, faulty air conditioning, carbon monoxide and chemicals from a water treatment plant near the guesthouse have all been mentioned as possible causes.
Kamol Pirat and Gazette reporters
Posted 2009-05-07 14:29:50
Seattle woman mysteriously dies in Thailand
SEATTLE - A memorial of tulips and candles surrounds a black-and-white photo of Jill St. Onge that sits on the bar counter of Shadowland in West Seattle.
But it's two postcards, signed "Jill and Ryan," that tell the story of her life, and death.
"They planned this trip for a year," said friend Whitney Filsinger of St. Onge’s three-month excursion across Southeast Asia with longtime boyfriend Ryan Kells.
St. Onge blogged all throughout the vacation, typing thoughts and posting pictures of sandy beaches and ancient monuments for friends back home. The happiest moment, they say, came halfway through the trip, when Kells proposed in Bali, and she accepted.
But a few weeks later, Jill St. Onge was dead, at 27.
"[Ryan’s] devastated,” said friend Shannon Felix. “I think it's going to be a long time before he can recover from this."
"When you know someone that's that vibrant and that bright, to hear that they're gone like that just doesn't make any sense," Filsinger added.
But so far, what isn't clear is why she died, and that’s where St. Onge’s family is demanding answers from the Thai government.
In a newly created blog about the investigation, Kells writes he and Jill were staying in a bungalow in Thailand at the time, a week from coming home. He says St. Onge started feeling ill, then he did too.
“After that we met some friends, but the whole time Jill was saying her stomach wasn't feeling that great,” wrote Kells. “So around maybe midnight she said she was going to go lie down. But I should stay out a bit. So I did, I went back to the room around 2 a.m., Jill was looking real bad, vomiting, I laid down with her to try to make her feel better still thinking it was the burger that was making her feel bad.”
Despite officials initially saying it was food poisoning, Kells said, Kells believed there was something toxic in the air.
Then the local Thai newspaper, the Andaman Times, reported a Norwegian tourist dying within hours of Jill in the same bungalow. Norwegian news outlet Nettavisen reports traces of cyanide found in that woman and suggests a nearby water treatment plant as the cause.
"I think that if that mystery wasn't there, it would be much easier for us to comprehend," said Felix.
An autopsy is reported scheduled for Thursday in Bangkok, but for now, the death has sparked far more questions than answers into the death of a woman friends described as an up-and-coming artist, favorite bartender, and loving teacher.
"We really feel like we've lost a member of the family,” said Felis. She was artistic and bubbly, I never saw her have a bad day."
- KING-TV News (Seattle, USA) / 2009-05-06
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May 7th, 2009 - Family and friends of a Seattle woman who died in Thailand are demanding answers.
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Edited by sriracha john, 2009-05-07 14:44:40.
Posted 2009-05-07 14:38:30
Mystery surrounds Seattle woman's death in Thailand
SEATTLE -- Friends and family members are searching for answers behind the mysterious death of a local woman in Thailand.
Jill St. Onge, 27, of West Seattle died while traveling in Thailand's Phi Phi Islands.
Family members said Onge fell very ill very quickly over the weekend, and boyfriend Ryan Kell didn't even have a chance to get her to a hospital before she died.
The two were wrapping up a three-month tour of Asia at a bungalow on the island. They were getting ready to bring home big news -- the two had gotten engaged during the trip.
Then something sinister struck.
According to Thai media, St. Onge may not be the only victim of the mysterious sudden death. A Thai headline read "Poisoning suspected after two tourists die."
The report stated in addition to St. Onge, a 22-year-old Norwegian tourist had died the same weekend at the same bungalow.
A Norweigan newspaper reported that traces of cyanide had been found in the Norwegian woman's stomach, and her surviving travel companion remained ill.
"It all seems very suspicious," said St. Onge's best friend Brooke Freede, who received the news on Sunday.
Back in the Northwest, bloggers are speculating about the mystery brewing more than 7,000 miles away. St. Onge was a well-known member of the community as an artist and an employee of the Shadowland Restaurant.
"She was just so much a part of our lives. Its impossible to think what its going to be like without her," said Freede.
Wrangling for answers in an uncooperative foreign land, Kell and St. Onge's family members are determined to get momentum behind the story of her death. Thailand authorities won't allow Kell bring St. Onge's body home.
"No one knows what happened," said brother Robert St. Onge.
St. Onge's brothers and parents who live in California are exhausted with heartbreak.
"We're doing really bad right now because tonight's the night she's getting cremated," said Robert St. Onge on Wednesday. "So it's killing everyone that we can't be there, and it's really bad. It's the worst thing any of us have gone through."
Family members have not made any funeral arrangements yet. They aren't even sure when their loved one's ashes will arrive. Kell is seeking help from the U.S. Embassy in Thailand.
An autopsy was performed overseas and results are expected in several months. The St. Onge family requested blood and tissue samples in order to conduct an independent analysis.
- KOMO-TV News (Seattle, USA) / 2009-05-06
Edited by sriracha john, 2009-05-07 14:41:06.
Posted 2009-05-07 15:01:11
I wonder how many Thai's have suddenly died recently on Phi Phi, in that area? If it is from the fish or water treatment plant then the foreigners can't be the only one's affected.
Very sad post from the fiance saying she didn't drink and upset with the police saying that. . I guess living here we just come to expect the lack of any scientific police work.. and any conclusions, and anyone facing any real consequences...
We forget what is normal.
THanks for posting pictures of the girls...giving faces to the names.
And I really hope it is true that Dr Pornthip will be involved.
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From Phuket Wan (while Gazette is collecting the facts Phuket Wan is getting the more news)
<h1 class="title"> Dead Tourist 'Pushed off Phi Phi': Boyfriend</h1> By Alan Morison
Thursday, May 7, 2009 CONFLICTING accounts surfaced today about what happened in the final hours before two women tourists died on the holiday island of Phi Phi over the weekend.
American Ryan Kells said he was bundled off the island in a speed boat with the body of his fiancee after her sudden death.
He spoke to Phuketwan by telephone from Bangkok a couple of hours before the body of his girlfriend, Jill Sheree St Onge, 27, was due to be cremated.
continued at Phuketwan.com
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The police are probably related to the guest house owner and the speed boat driver and..............
What a horrible experience but not surprising for us living here no doubt.
Let the tourism on Phi Phi suffer. Maybe something will change.
Edited by sbk, 2009-05-07 21:28:28.
change to defaul font/color for readability ubonjoe
Posted 2009-05-07 15:17:42
MisterMan, on 2009-05-07 15:01:11, said: Thanks for posting pictures of the girls...giving faces to the names.
mai pen rai, MisterMan... it's only humanizing, which I feel is important.
Meanwhile...
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Cassava-poisoning could explain the death of Norwegian
The Thai authorities now suspect cassava, a very common vegetable in the Asian kitchen, to be the killer of the two tourists on Phi Phi.
The plant has previously caused the death of Philippine children. Cassava can produce the poisonous Prussic acid when not cooked properly – to have caused the death of the 22 year-old Norwegian girl Julie Michelle Bergheim and the 27 year-old Jill St. Onge from USA, who recently died after massive pains in their stomachs at the same hotel on the Phi Phi Island in Thailand.
The police have now confirmed that there has been found cyanide – a by-product of Prussic acid in the stomachs of both women. That has led to the theory of the Cassava-poisoning.
Due to investigation, bars and restaurants on the island have been examined, and the hotel where the women stayed is temporary closed.
Cassava is infamous for its deadly acid. In 2006, 25 Philippine children died after eating snacks made of the plant.
- ScandAsia / 2009-05-07
Edited by sriracha john, 2009-05-07 15:33:50.
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Posted 2009-05-07 15:17:49
PHI PHI (Nettavisen): Nettavisen has visited "Laleena Guest House", a guest house where Julie Michelle Bergheim (22) and her friend (20) lived.
The small guest house is located about ten minutes walk from the beach and has nine rooms - four with air conditioning and five with the fan. The guest house, which has simple standard, run by Ruth Hoikeo (27). She has run the place since the tsunami, then 2004. Now it is closed indefinitely.
- I am quite desperate after having experienced two deaths on the same day. I feel that the suspicions directed against me and my guest house, "says Hoikeo to Nettavisen Wednesday afternoon. She shows Nettavisen the room the girls lived in - and tells what happened Sunday 3. May:
- It was clear that I had a suspicion that something was wrong. Finally, we broke into the room, and where we were met by a lot of vomiting and very exhausting girls, "she says. She contacted a few friends, who had taken the girls to the hospital on Phi Phi.
- I remember the girls as very pleasant, "says Hoikeo. Now she hopes police find the cause of the tragic events.
Norwegian Julie Michelle Bergheim (22) died on Phi Phi to the hospital Monday night. The deceased was transported to Bangkok Tuesday afternoon to autopsied. The travel companion (20) is still in hospital in Phuket, but on the improvement path. Police on Phi Phi has stated to BBC that it is found cyanide in the stomach to Bergheim.
Tuesday, it was known that an American woman, Jill St. Onge (27), and her fiancé Ryan Kells lived in the same hostel as Norway. Hoikeo says that the Americans and Norwegians lived side by side in the rooms five and four. St. Onge was acutely ill and were transported to hospitals on Phi Phi, where she later died Sunday morning. Kells wrote in a blog Tuesday that he had suspected that St. Onge died of air in the room. Kells was also sick, but had a much milder disease than St. Onge. This he justifies with the St. Onge stay in space for five-six hours more than him. Therefore he does not exclude that St. Onge was poisoned by the air in the room, he wrote in a blog Tuesday. St. Onge had the same symptoms as the Norwegian girls - that is, vomiting, stomach pain and dehydration.
Cause of death for women is still unclear, and the final autopsy report is available only six to seven weeks.
Full story with pictures on Nettavisen . no (Norwegian)
Posted 2009-05-07 15:22:01
Jai Dee, on 2009-05-06 02:37:44, said: Some wildly speculative and off-topic posts have been deleted from this thread.
Some wildly speculative and off-topic posts have been left in this thread.
why does every death bring out the amateur detectives with their own opinions of what may have happened?
aircon, food, bad drugs, jellyfish.....what next?
Posted 2009-05-07 15:23:14
There can be a lot of noxious/poisonous gases produced in waste water treatment plants, but one would have to be in very close proximity and probably in an enclosed space for them to be fatal.
Hydrogen cyanide can be produced from the process, but it would kill a lot more than just one or two people. It would be pretty odorless, but could be detectable in high enough concentration by most people.
Does anyone know how close the apartment/rooms could be to the treatment plant? What type of treatment is it? Waste or drinking?
If it was from the treatment, they need to shut it down right away, because the people running it obviously don't have a clue.
Edited by Thai at Heart, 2009-05-07 15:25:53.
Posted 2009-05-07 15:32:18
Facts about cyanide
* Cyanides are produced by certain bacteria, fungi, and algae, and may be found in plants and some foods, such as lima beans and almonds.
* Cyanide occurs naturally in cassava roots, potato-like tubers grown in tropical countries.
* Cyanide can enter surface water through releases from metal finishing industries, iron and steel mills, runoff from disposal of cyanide wastes in landfills, pesticides, and the use of cyanide-containing road salts.
* Most cyanide in surface water will form hydrogen cyanide and evaporate. It is not found commonly in drinking water at any significant concentration.
* Cyanide is a rapidly acting, potentially deadly chemical that can exist in various forms.
* Cyanide can be a colorless gas, such as hydrogen cyanide (HCN) or cyanogen chloride (CNCl), or a crystal form such as sodium cyanide (NaCN) or potassium cyanide (KCN).
* Cyanide sometimes is described as having a “bitter almond” smell, but it does not always give off an odor, and not everyone can detect this odor.
* Cyanide is also known by the military designations AC (for hydrogen cyanide) and CK (for cyanogen chloride).
How to be exposed to cyanide
* You could be exposed to cyanide by breathing air, drinking water, eating food, or touching soil that contains cyanide.
* Cyanide enters water, soil, or air as a result of both natural processes and industrial activities. In air, cyanide is present mainly as gaseous hydrogen cyanide.
* Smoking cigarettes is probably one of the major sources of cyanide exposure for people who do not work in cyanide-related industries.
People exposed to a small amount of cyanide by breathing it, absorbing it through their skin, or eating foods that contain it may have some or all of the following symptoms within minutes:
* Rapid breathing
* Restlessness
* Dizziness
* Weakness
* Headache
* Nausea and vomiting
* Rapid heart rate
Sources:
http://www.nettavise...icle2619616.ece
http://emergency.cdc...asics/facts.asp
Posted 2009-05-07 15:52:07
sriracha john, on 2009-05-07 15:17:42, said:
Cassava-poisoning could explain the death of Norwegian
The Thai authorities now suspect cassava, a very common vegetable in the Asian kitchen, to be the killer of the two tourists on Phi Phi.
The plant has previously caused the death of Philippine children. Cassava can produce the poisonous Prussic acid when not cooked properly – to have caused the death of the 22 year-old Norwegian girl Julie Michelle Bergheim and the 27 year-old Jill St. Onge from USA, who recently died after massive pains in their stomachs at the same hotel on the Phi Phi Island in Thailand.
The police have now confirmed that there has been found cyanide – a by-product of Prussic acid in the stomachs of both women. That has led to the theory of the Cassava-poisoning.
Cassava is infamous for its deadly acid. In 2006, 25 Philippine children died after eating snacks made of the plant.
- ScandAsia / 2009-05-07 
In rustic town of Bohol three days ago, 25 pupils of San Jose Elementary School died of food poisoning after eating sweetened cassava during their recess period. Consequently, the school officials also reported that "most of their 476 pupils succumbed to stomach ache" on that fateful Wednesday afternoon.
Continues:
http://emeritus.blog...-poisoning.html
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RESEARCHERS GET TO THE ROOT OF CASSAVA’S CYANIDE-PRODUCING ABILITIES
COLUMBUS, Ohio – Cassava is the third-most important food source in tropical countries, but it has one major problem: The roots and leaves of poorly processed cassava plants contain a substance that, when eaten, can trigger the production of cyanide.
That’s a serious problem for the 500 million people who rely on cassava as their main source of calories, among them subsistence farmers in Sub-Saharan Africa, said Richard Sayre, a professor of plant biology at Ohio State University. He and his colleague Dimuth Siritunga, a post-doctoral researcher in plant biology at the university, have created cyanogen-free cassava plants. A cyanogen is a substance that induces cyanide production.
Continues:
http://researchnews....ive/cassava.htm
Posted 2009-05-07 16:36:09
Latest news from VG :
http://www.vg.no/nyh...hp?artid=562964
Doctors and police still do not know what took the life of the Norwegian Julie (22) and the American Jill (26). None of the theories that are discussed in the press, have been confirmed.
After it became clear that Julie Michelle Bergheim (22) from Drammen and Jill St. Onge (26) from Seattle died in Phi Phi Island within hours, it was full poison alert in the popular holiday resort.
Both Norwegian and Thai media have followed the case closely, and several theories that could explain the sudden deaths, have been looked into. Yesterday the police chief Nopadon Klom Thong told Nettavisen that cyanide have been found in the stomach of the girl.
This is strongly denied by another police investigator in Phuket.
- It's only a rumor that it is found cyanide in the stomach of the deceased women. We will not get any results from the autopsy before 14. May, "he told VG .
The Norwegian Ambassador to Thailand, Merete Brattestad, told VG Nett that there are no results from the autopsy reports.
Doctor Buncha Khakong from the health authorities in Krabi told Phuket Wan that so far theres no traces of cyanide - more commonly known as blåsyre in Norwegian. Some of the contents of the stomach of the dead women have been sent to Krabi to be examined by specialists.
The specialists have started the job, but so far no traces of cyanide in the stomach of the woman. The final report is not ready.
VG Nett has spoken with Khakong, he believes that they should look at what the women had been drinking. The police in Krabi has previously told VG Nett that they believe they were poisoned through the food .
Khakong denies any theory about the women died as a result of something in the aircondition system in the guest house they stayed in. He believes that if it had been the cause, the symptoms would not have been vomiting and stomach pain.
This theory was launched by Jill St. Onges fiancé Ryan Kells. He has created a blog in honor of his deceased girlfriend, and it is here he speculate whether something in the air condition system may have killed her. The Norwegian girl and her friend who survived, lived in the room next door in the same guesthouse.
Laleena Guest House is now closed waiting for the results of the autopsy reports that are expected in six to seven weeks. VG spoke yesterday with the hotel owner, she was very upset about the two deaths , but she does not think the hotel can be blamed for what happened.
Edited by balo, 2009-05-07 16:40:00.
Posted 2009-05-07 16:40:52
My condolences to those affected by this tragedy. I was born and raised in the Seattle area and have been to Alki Beach many times in my youth, so strange to see how small of world it really is and how quickly things change seriously and unexpectedly.
I was planning my next trip to the Phuket side of Thailand this next time...maybe not unless a thorough investigation comes up with the cause(s) *AND* restitution, again, my sincerest of sympathies to all the families, European and American.
More about the plant and apparently popular food source despite the cyanide it is known quite well to contain to many especially the locals.
(http:// no www )images.search.yahoo.com/search/images?_adv_prop=image&fr=yfp-t-106-s&va=cassava+plant&sz=all
(http:// no www )search.yahoo.com/search?toggle=1&cop=mss&ei=UTF-8&fr=yfp-t-106-s&p=cassava%20plant
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Posted 2009-05-07 17:02:50
Woman mysteriously dies in Thailand
A Bay Area native is searching for answers surrounding the mysterious death of his 27-year-old fiance in Thailand. The couple got engaged only a few weeks ago while on a three-month journey through Southeast Asia.
"She's the most wonderful person that I've ever met in my life," said Ryan Kells.
Los Altos native and Seattle resident Ryan Kells spoke to ABC7 over the internet about the woman he planned to marry. Kells was on Phi Phi Island in Thailand with his fiance Jill St. Onge when she died after suddenly falling ill only three days ago.
"She couldn't breathe, she was vomiting, and I tried to run her to a hospital and she ended up passing within maybe 12 hours after the first symptoms of being sick," said Kells.
St. Onge's mysterious death is making news in Thailand, because according to the Andaman Times, a young tourist from Norway died a day later after showing similar symptoms at the same Laleena guesthouse. And last month, another Norwegian died mysteriously there as well. Kells believes something toxic must have been in the air.
"She spent about six more hours in the room than I did, and when I stayed in the room for three hours that's when I started to vomit as well, after I've been in the room," said Kells.
A spokesman with the U.S. embassy says due to privacy concerns they can't talk about what they've discussed so far with Thai authorities. But Kells says officials with both governments haven't been helpful at all.
"The U.S. Embassy told us that they didn't want to leave here footprints in Thailand. Well I find that to be ridiculous because I feel that Thailand has left a huge footprint in my life," says Kells.
Kells says he just wants answers, in hopes that another tourist won't end up dead so unexpectedly. Results from his fiancé's autopsy aren't expected for another four to six weeks.
- KGO-TV News (San Francisco, California, USA) / 2009-05-07
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Video News Link of above:
http://abclocal.go.c...n...&id=6800461
Posted 2009-05-07 17:20:29
MODS: Don't delete this post as this is not hearsay but has just been reported on Thai TV Channel 3!
Thai TV channel 3 just showed footage of a young Swiss woman found dead on the beach in Krabi. My wife translated that it was said that the woman checked out of the hotel Andaman Princess yesterday.
It seems that Foreigners are dying now on a daily basis in Thailand.
Anyone knows more about this?
Edited by Dario, 2009-05-07 17:29:28.
Posted 2009-05-07 17:24:02
Terribly tragic news. Condolences to all families involved.
What I don't like are the different theories being thrown around "bucket drink", "They were drunk", "They were arguing" etc. Love how the authorities are looking to put the blame on the victims, idiot authorities!
One thing that strikes me curious is why the body of the American girl is to be cremated so quickly. Surely they couldn't have finished a thorough autopsy already.
Posted 2009-05-07 17:26:15
Dario, on 2009-05-07 17:20:29, said: MODS: Don't delete this post as this is not hearsay but has just been reported on Thai TV Channel 3!
Thai TV channel 3 just showed footage of a young Swiss woman found dead on the beach in Phuket. My wife translated that it was said that the woman checked out of the hotel Andaman Princess yesterday.
It seems that Foreigners are dying now on a daily basis in Thailand.
Anyone knows more about this?
covered in different thread, see
http://www.thaivisa....ea-t263333.html
Edited by sriracha john, 2009-05-07 17:27:15.
Posted 2009-05-07 17:28:11
Hi,
initially it was reported that the 2 couples stayed in the SAME ROOM .......
Can you please tell us WHICH HOTEL???
What kind of oversight is this? Should we 'keep the reputation of this establishment intact'???
Food poisoning, or air conditioner....I DO NOT WANT MYSELF OR FAMILY OR FRIENDS STAYING THERE...
WHAT IS THE NAME OF THE HOTEL IN QUESTION???
Thank you,
S
Posted 2009-05-07 17:33:03
Edited by Soupdragon, 2009-05-07 17:35:25.
Posted 2009-05-07 17:34:45
The Phuket death does not seem to have anything to do with this thread. She had just checked out of hotel in extremely upset manner and there is suspicion she either took her life or was robbed.
Posted 2009-05-07 17:39:17
I didn't know that another thread was opened somewhere else, sorry for this! Usually I get an email message when such news comes up, but I didn't get one yet. Apparently not so important news ...
Posted 2009-05-07 17:41:42
faranginbkk, on 2009-05-07 13:46:53, said: Samuian, on 2009-05-07 13:42:17, said: now cyanide - extremely mysterious!
heard it from the grapevine that there is a custom to "fish" with arsenic....
but cyanide from the a/c...?
Not correct. Arsenic acts much too slowly to catch fish. Cyanide is used for illegal fishing around coral reefs, yes.
Thanks for correcting this!
as I wrote... hearsay - however the much better - it only came to mind with the mentioning of poisoning
I always wondered how the cyanide - if it kills the fish, after wards effects the diner!?
But now the news tell us that there was no cyanide...
We'll see - terrible for everyone involved!
Edited by Samuian, 2009-05-07 17:42:47.
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