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#51 skybluestu

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Posted 2009-05-31 19:37:46

Sry Sky Blue, I was under the impression that a degree (of any sorts) was a minimum requirement to teach in Thailand. I was only under this impression as the 3 places I have worked in 6 years, ALL refuse applicants without a degree; one was a government University and two private Prathom schools. Furthermore, I also have to submit a copy of my degree and transcript periodically to obtain my teachers licence and without that (at our local office) you do not get it.

Also Sky Blue, I agree with you that a degree does not make you 'educated' per se, but it certainly offers a prospective employer a guide that you are capable academically ....afterall, teaching requires you to be academic yeah? Yes, I also felt wise enough before I got my degree but it certainly helped me doing a degree with understanding my own English language.

Anyway, this thread has gone a bit off topic ......hows Hippo doing with his plight? Any reply yet Hippo?


I can only speak from personal experience and my experience is that you can be legally employed as a teacher and be issued with a work permit without having a degree. Yes, many places do ask for a degree but many places accept applicants without a degree, do you really think there are enough degree holders here in Thailand to fill all the teaching positions? And there are some very good teachers out there who don't have degrees, should they all be fired? I was offered a good job after finishing my 2yr diploma back in the UK 15 yrs ago which I accepted and I'm glad I did, instead of getting in a lot of debt I gained valuable work experience and ended up having people with degrees working for me. The only time I've ever regretted not doing a degree is since I've been here as it would give me peace of mind even though I'm, so far, doing OK without one. I teach English conversation to 9-13 yr olds, do I really need to have a degree in order to do that? Colleagues have told me that the previous teacher before me often used to go into school late and hungover stinking of alcohol and one a few years ago died of a drug overdose while on a trip to Laos, both had degrees but were they good teachers?!

I've read the teachers council's requirements and on there it does say you must have at least a bachelors degree but I currently work at a private prathom school and just had my WP renewed. I have never claimed to have a degree and my boss is aware I don't have one and doesn't care, he's happy with me. I have only ever submitted my diploma when asked to supply documents for WP & visa extension and have not had a problem yet and the director of my school visited BKK last week and came back with a waiver letter from the teachers council which is good for another 3 yrs.

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Yes, any update from Mr H?

#52 mr_hippo

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Posted 2009-05-31 21:01:45

Yes, any update from Mr H?

My trial is on June 11th, I am out on 100,000 Baht bail. The lawyer has been the family's lawyer for many years and he expects a small fine only. Me? My moods swing from 'small fine' to 'prison sentence and deportation'. I am expecting the best but fearing the worst!

#53 beano2274

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Posted 2009-05-31 21:42:44

Please keep us all posted about how it goes.

Fingers crossed.

#54 ucantbeserious

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Posted 2009-06-05 12:13:59

a few curious things in the story...
is your lawyer any good?? sure??
what is the charge? it sounds like a civil/criminal offence not an immigration offence.
why aren't regular police prosecuting?
i query this because of a prior experience of mine with being arrested (for drunk driving),
the scam was that you are held in the cells for a bail payment (they lend it to you for 10,000 baht fee),
next day i was fined a few thousand baht by the court ( a kinda quickie court where you just stand at a window talking to the "judge').
then scam 2 was now that you break the law of thailand you go to immigration police detention centre.
held there for an afternoon while trying to find the big boss and pay him a bribe to let me out.
it was at his discretion as to what to do with me the prisoner.
(prosecute, deport etc).

i would be worried about it not being finished when you have been fined.
are they holding your passport?

#55 Phatcharanan

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Posted 2009-06-06 11:40:09

a few curious things in the story...
is your lawyer any good?? sure??
what is the charge? it sounds like a civil/criminal offence not an immigration offence.
why aren't regular police prosecuting?
i query this because of a prior experience of mine with being arrested (for drunk driving),
the scam was that you are held in the cells for a bail payment (they lend it to you for 10,000 baht fee),
next day i was fined a few thousand baht by the court ( a kinda quickie court where you just stand at a window talking to the "judge').
then scam 2 was now that you break the law of thailand you go to immigration police detention centre.
held there for an afternoon while trying to find the big boss and pay him a bribe to let me out.
it was at his discretion as to what to do with me the prisoner.
(prosecute, deport etc).

i would be worried about it not being finished when you have been fined.
are they holding your passport?


I believe they are holding his passport.

It's a criminal offence, not civil.

If past cases are anything to go by then deportation seems to be the eventual outcome for this type of offence.

Edited by Phatcharanan, 2009-06-06 11:43:55.


#56 YouYouYou

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Posted 2009-06-07 14:12:17

Gawd blimey Hippo, lots of luck on Thursday and I hope it is the 'fine option' ...let us all know the outcome shortly after.

P.S. GL sky blue too ..yes, yes,yes ...I've also known many a degree teacher that is useless too LOL.

#57 twschw

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Posted 2009-06-07 15:16:50

It would be interesting to know what the official charge is?

#58 beano2274

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Posted 2009-06-13 11:34:47

Seems that Mr Hippo is not available to comment on how things went, is this a bad sign?

#59 rixalex

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Posted 2009-06-13 12:08:28

Seems that Mr Hippo is not available to comment on how things went, is this a bad sign?

He's commented on this thread:
http://www.thaivisa....rt-t272232.html

#60 beano2274

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Posted 2009-06-13 12:14:38

Seems that Mr Hippo is not available to comment on how things went, is this a bad sign?

He's commented on this thread:
http://www.thaivisa....rt-t272232.html


Thanks for the link, great reading





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