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[eddibabyyeah]

touseefashfaq, on 2009-06-11 07:14:12, said:

i'm going to bangkok trip on AUG , dont know what to do.. should i cancel my trip or not.. but lets see. more careful

I'd cancel the trip. Its not worth the risk. I doubt the country ur coming from will have problems with this virus?

[jazzman17]

swine flu... just a distraction from the economic problems that are bringing the world down... keep the people scared and distracted so they don't see your mistakes

[Darkling]

marsteele, on 2009-06-11 14:18:07, said:

Bloody Farangs coming here with your desease and destroying our tourists inductry.

[kuffki]

jazzman17, on 2009-06-11 13:44:27, said:

swine flu... just a distraction from the economic problems that are bringing the world down... keep the people scared and distracted so they don't see your mistakes

Yes and AIDS is to stop people from having sex
SARS is to kill the airline industry
Cancer is to make more money

And some people need a brain cell before they are allowed to do any postings.

[JR Texas]

wileycoyote, on 2009-06-11 13:34:52, said:

Providing care is taken,recovery rates from H1N1 are very high.

Can TAT use that in their advertisements:

"Providing care is taken, recovery rates from H1N1 are very high. So, no problem, visit the Land of Smiles today."

The fact is that it is hurting tourism all over. I hope it does not mutate into an extremely deadly form.

But viruses love to mutate......it is how they get their kicks.

[Richard Hall]

thykeeper, on 2009-06-11 06:28:13, said:

marsteele, on 2009-06-11 13:18:07, said:

Bloody Farangs coming here with your desease and destroying our tourists inductry.

We're destroying the tourist industry which we created!

Nuttin' to worry, getting pissed and laid ain't the tourist industry. Anyway, keep a pack of Kleenex handy to avoid dripping on the floor 'coz too bad if someone slips and breaks a leg. No need for further negative headlines.

[Aqualogic]

GraBangkok, on 2009-06-11 13:20:37, said:

alant, on 2009-06-11 13:05:45, said:

so now we all get paranoid about a bit of flu, in Pattaya??

Don't think to many people are paranoid mate and it's not this virus we have to worry about at the moment

But if and when it mutates and possibly mixes with H5N1 (endemic in Asia)

Actually this H1N1 virus mutated from H5N1 and this was always the concern (in the days of bird flu etc). H5N1 does not transmit easily between humans, it needed to find its way into something like a pig or monkey to mutate into a humanly transmittable form. Now that it has done that and is now a Humanly transmittable virus we are going to watch it mutate into its more pathogenic stages. Traditionally stage 1 (the current stage) is mild and not very lethal. But note it's M.O. is what the experts are worried about so much, it is the tendency for this virus to cause hypercytokinemia which when this virus develops into stage 3 & 4 will kill people (between 20-50 years of age) like you have no idea. It is this and not the flu symptoms my friends, that has all the experts so terrified. That and the fact that we have no way of stopping it nor preventing it. I hope that it can be stopped or slowed, but that is now an extremely unlikely outcome. Take precautions (avoid obvious potential threats) and keep your hands cleaned regularly. Viruses much prefer to hitchike than to fly. More bacteria is transmitted from what you touch than what you breath in.
What a disaster for the tourism industry eh?

[bobbin]

Sorry, everyone who is wishful thinking better read the other flu post here in News Clippings.

It is the piggy flu!

[george]

Update:
PM: 20 more flu cases in Pattaya

BANGKOK: -- Another 20 cases of A(H1N1) influenza have been found in the resort town of Pattaya, Prime Minister Abhisit Vejjajiva said on Thursday.

The patients were all workers at entertainment places. All were now in the care of the Public Health Ministry, the prime minister said.

Health officials would examine people at major tourist attractions in both Pattaya and Phuket to get a more accurate number of how many people have so far caught the flu in Thailand.

On Wednesday, the Public Health Ministry put the number of confirmed flu cases at 16, after an 11-year-old 6th grade boy at a private school in Sam Sen area of Bangkok was found to have the flu virus.

The ministry ordered three classes at the school closed for three days and 13 other students from the school were placed under close watch after they showed flu-like symptoms.

The 11-year-old boy is the second case of human-to-human transmission confirmed in Thailand. He has not recently travelled out of the country, officials said.


-- Bangkok Post 2009-06-11

[xminator]

Of course this is a serious thing. A normal flu usually kill old people or people that are already weakened by diseases. This one kills adults. Given the current death/infected ratio, a spread to 1/3 of Thailands population would result in 90000 deaths. And most of them healthy adults. Most likely much higher because a spread like that would make it impossible to give the treatment they do now that the number of sick are low.

And to add to it, its not only about deaths. Serious diseases like this also affect survivors. Giving them various degrees of long term effects and disabilities. Like in traffic accidents, the dead are sometimes the lucky ones.

[kuffki]

bobbin, on 2009-06-11 13:59:25, said:

Sorry, everyone who is wishful thinking better read the other flu post here in News Clippings.

It is the piggy flu!

Problem is not the flue, problem is what is being done to prevent it from spreading.

Answer is nothing when it comes to foreigners and that is the main point. Not what kind it is, who brought it or who spreads it or why, when or whatever else people can come up with.

[EnhancePlus]

JR Texas, on 2009-06-11 13:49:57, said:

wileycoyote, on 2009-06-11 13:34:52, said:

Providing care is taken,recovery rates from H1N1 are very high.

Can TAT use that in their advertisements:

"Providing care is taken, recovery rates from H1N1 are very high. So, no problem, visit the Land of Smiles today."

The fact is that it is hurting tourism all over. I hope it does not mutate into an extremely deadly form.

But viruses love to mutate......it is how they get their kicks.

What if H1N1 mutates with an STD?? Probably make a lot more people susceptible to either one

[jazzman17]

kuffki, on 2009-06-11 13:47:39, said:

jazzman17, on 2009-06-11 13:44:27, said:

swine flu... just a distraction from the economic problems that are bringing the world down... keep the people scared and distracted so they don't see your mistakes

Yes and AIDS is to stop people from having sex
SARS is to kill the airline industry
Cancer is to make more money

And some people need a brain cell before they are allowed to do any postings.

excuse me for failing to fall into a fear trap. real or not i'm not living in a cardboard box or in fear. as for your cheap insult... if someone's opinion differs to yours does that instantly mean that they are lacking intellegence. grow up, open your mind and try enjoying life

[indieke]

alant, on 2009-06-11 14:05:45, said:

so now we all get paranoid about a bit of flu, in Pattaya??

Nothing to do with Paranoia! But not a happy news either! And there is a whole world of difference between 3 cases and 21.

[elcent]

Canada's Public Health Agency released its latest figures on Wednesday afternoon which showed 533 new cases of A/H1N1 flu on Tuesday and Wednesday. This latest batch of cases brings the country's total to 2,978. Ontario alone reported 339 new infections bringing the province's total to 1,562. This is the highest number of cases by far among the provinces in Canada. The other provinces that are hardest hit by the swine flu virus are Quebec with 611 confirmed cases, Saskatchewan with 221 reported cased, Alberta with 195 and British Columbia with 151 cases. To date, only the province of Newfoundland and Labrador has not reported any cases among the ten provinces and three territories in the country. Meanwhile, the number of patients who needed to be hospitalized has increased to 138 with four fatalities.

http://www.ubalert.com

[chiang mai]

loganberry, on 2009-06-11 12:51:38, said:

Has anyone heard which "disco" is was in Pattaya? Depending on which one it is, one can pretty much stereotype the kinds of bars these disco goers would be at in Bangkok, and avoid them.

Ah yes, we introduce the social and class elements associated with catching a flu virus. So how to handle the problem, the disco in question may have been one frequented by bar girls hence must avoid all bar girl disco's, and bar girls, and poorer village people in the street and their potential customers etc etc. Or perhaps it was a top end disco where only monied people might go in which case must avoid Emporium, Paragon, anyone who looks slightly wealthy etc etc. I mean really!!!

Edited by chiang mai, 2009-06-11 14:22:24.

[minxwhale]

touseefashfaq, on 2009-06-11 13:14:12, said:

i'm going to bangkok trip on AUG , dont know what to do.. should i cancel my trip or not.. but lets see. more careful

Fear is the mind killer

[bobbin]

Remember a while back they were saying wearing face masks were ineffective in protecting against swine flu?

Well, watching coverage of the outbreak in Australia, I see that all the healthcare workrers and airport personnel were wearing them.....

I predict a new fashion statement is on the way for Pattaya!

......heading to the Pharmacy to stock up!

[chiang mai]

bobbin, on 2009-06-11 14:18:42, said:

Remember a while back they were saying wearing face masks were ineffective in protecting against swine flu?

Well, watching coverage of the outbreak in Australia, I see that all the healthcare workrers and airport personnel were wearing them.....

I predict a new fashion statement is on the way for Pattaya!

......heading to the Pharmacy to stock up!

People wear face masks to protect others and not themselves, as a general rule.

[rayong09]

bobbin, on 2009-06-11 14:18:42, said:

I predict a new fashion statement is on the way for Pattaya!

Another Hello Kitty product in the making now.

[Junglejumbo]

I bet the disco was Hollywood. Not so many discos which are so big. If 20 staff have flu then probably the place has about 50-100 staff so only big one I can think of is Hollywood. Hollywood is a pick up place for tourists and Thais.

The flu will certainly spread quickly in Thailand. Unlike Aussie, people won't know to immediately go to the doctor and get the anti-virals so like Mexico we could see some of the less educated or poorer people die here.

At some point the hospitals will also run out of Tamiflu, the only drug which they stock to kill the virus. By-the-way, for all those unphased by the outbreak, the bulk of the inventory for this drug has passed its expiry date with most of it stocked in 2004 and 2005. The drug maker said that stocks could last an extra year over the 3year date if stored properly i.e. at the right temperature which is unlikely in Thailand except perhaps tablets at the better hospitals.

What I am wondering is what happens when all the drug, new or old runs out which it will do soon????

[bobbin]

chiang mai, on 2009-06-11 14:23:42, said:

bobbin, on 2009-06-11 14:18:42, said:

Remember a while back they were saying wearing face masks were ineffective in protecting against swine flu?

Well, watching coverage of the outbreak in Australia, I see that all the healthcare workrers and airport personnel were wearing them.....

I predict a new fashion statement is on the way for Pattaya!

......heading to the Pharmacy to stock up!

People wear face masks to protect others and not themselves, as a general rule.

Do you really think that is the case?

[bobbin]

rayong09, on 2009-06-11 14:24:30, said:

bobbin, on 2009-06-11 14:18:42, said:

I predict a new fashion statement is on the way for Pattaya!

Another Hello Kitty product in the making now.

A marketing genius!!

[Siriam]

marsteele, on 2009-06-11 13:18:07, said:

Bloody Farangs coming here with your desease and destroying our tourists inductry.

I'm not going to insult you because it is probably against the rules of this esteemed Forum, but I deeply despise you and your unfathomable ignorance.

Edited by Siriam, 2009-06-11 14:40:39.

[Sir_Sanuk]

What exactly happens to these people after they have been diagnosed with Swine Flu?