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[BEENTHEREDONETHAT]

If the red shirts show up the BIB can do what they do best. Fine each one of them 500baht, that will get rid of them.

[jackr]

LeungKen, on 2009-06-30 12:25:42, said:

I think this is the time for me to do a little tour to Chang Mai & Chang Rai

What's the weather and the traffic like up that way during this period.

Crap.

[yuyi]

jackr, on 2009-07-01 07:43:22, said:

LeungKen, on 2009-06-30 12:25:42, said:

I think this is the time for me to do a little tour to Chang Mai & Chang Rai

What's the weather and the traffic like up that way during this period.

Crap.

yeah, once again there is so much crap posted in this thread, it is unbelievable.

[jackr]

The weather is crap. Thought I was being helpful.

Edited by jackr, 2009-07-01 08:18:16.

[vanalli]

None of those stories really say what the Internal Security Act is. That would help, probably. And Draconian? Come on.

[sedeflonga]

Finaly something is done here. Let's see what will happen next...

[Slaughterhouse]

[quote name='webfact' date='2009-06-30 12:10:28' post='2840170']
Internal Security Act

Does it mean Phuket can be declared "state of emergency" like Bangkok a few month ago?
What IS the Internal Security Act?

Doesn't matter what the act says or what any law says for that manner. Like the old bugger Trink would say TIT. The government will do what it feels like doing when it feels like doing it.

Keep your head down to keep your PR status or long term visa.

Then again we don't need another Pattaya fiasco, letting idiots break windows at the hotel. I guess you can say the people have brought this on themselves.
TIT

[baht&sold]

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I've got a better idea. Why don't they convene the stupid meeting in some isolated place so that the lives of the ordinary citizenry are not disrupted?

Holding a whole city to ransom to stroke the egos of a few politicians and their flunkies is about as inconsiderate as you can get and has no real benefit to anyone.

An even BETTER idea? Substitute the words 'stupid meeting' with 'whinging expats'...

Here's wishing Phuket SUCCESS with the upcoming meeting- and well done taking (unfortunately necessary) precautions to that end.

[slimdog]

vanalli, on 2009-07-01 09:06:57, said:

None of those stories really say what the Internal Security Act is. That would help, probably. And Draconian? Come on.

The draft of the ISOC act can be found at:

http://rspas.anu.edu.au/rmap/newmandala/wp...translation.pdf

[poldebol]

You simply must be American with that attitude. It may suprise you to know that many countries have navys, so stating 'the navy' doesn't actually clarify what countries navy is in Thailand.



Luxemburg Navy?

[Jimjim]

Why shouldn't they do this, Draconian or not? They need to have tight, tight security as it's vital for their reputation and for safety. The last meetings were a catastrophe, pure and simple.

[KhunKenAP]

"The Asian foreign ministers' meeting is scheduled to be held from July 16 to 23. It has been postponed twice since red-shirted protesters broke into a nearby building at the aborted initial meeting in Pattaya in April."


I hope they don't forget about the terrorists that are killing people left and right down south. Think tghey should be as much or more of a concern to the summit. One bomb or shooting will bring down Thailand's curtain.

I live in Pattaya and the traffic was screwed up a week in advance and got worse everday leading up to the conference. Another few nails in the coffin fo the Thailand Tourist Industry, even if nothing happens.

If they were smart they would just bow out of holding the ASEAN conference and let another country take it, until the mess is fixed here.

[baht&sold]

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If they were smart they would just bow out of holding the ASEAN conference and let another country take it

This would certainly please Mr Thaksin, Puea Thai and Red leaders (comprised of several Puea Thai MPs). This is their plan/'hope' of course....

Pattaya also has another Asean summit on Aug 2-8 and one hopes with Mr Thaksin's previously appointed National Security Chief belatedly/finally transferred yesterday, along with extra security measures taken, both the Phuket and Pattaya meets are an all out success.

Edited by baht&sold, 2009-07-01 11:04:22.

[Bagwan]

george, on 2009-06-30 21:09:22, said:

“I think what other countries want to see is our ability to host the meeting in an orderly manner," Mr. Abhisit told a news conference.

You think too much, Prime Minister. What YOU and your mates want is an orderly meeting to avoid further loss of face.

[animatic]

baht&sold, on 2009-07-01 09:40:59, said:

Quote

I've got a better idea. Why don't they convene the stupid meeting in some isolated place so that the lives of the ordinary citizenry are not disrupted?

Holding a whole city to ransom to stroke the egos of a few politicians and their flunkies is about as inconsiderate as you can get and has no real benefit to anyone.

An even BETTER idea? Substitute the words 'stupid meeting' with 'whinging expats'...

Here's wishing Phuket SUCCESS with the upcoming meeting- and well done taking (unfortunately necessary) precautions to that end.

Ditto.
This is a good high profile thing for Phuket, and international confidence raiser should all go well.
Any dislocation and/or disturbances will likely be very localized considering the size of the island.

[Bagwan]

TAWP, on 2009-06-30 12:14:29, said:

Why they need to put these meetings in a tourist-location...is just beyond me. Or actually, it is not...it's about money.

And there was I thinking unless there were plenty of flash hotels, plentiful suppies of cheap booze and loose ladies, some sun and sand, nobody would bother to attend. I view most meetings and conventions as being part of the gravy train.

[animatic]

poldebol, on 2009-07-01 10:08:25, said:

You simply must be American with that attitude. It may suprise you to know that many countries have navys, so stating 'the navy' doesn't actually clarify what countries navy is in Thailand.



Luxemburg Navy?

Possible still having that polished wood steam launch for sight seeing on the lake!
Luxumberg is very pretty by the way.

[animatic]

Bagwan, on 2009-07-01 11:15:26, said:

george, on 2009-06-30 21:09:22, said:

“I think what other countries want to see is our ability to host the meeting in an orderly manner," Mr. Abhisit told a news conference.

You think too much, Prime Minister. What YOU and your mates want is an orderly meeting to avoid further loss of face.

Not either or, but both.

[Pib]

Scubabuddha, on 2009-06-30 13:27:57, said:

webfact, on 2009-06-30 12:10:28, said:

Internal Security Act

Does it mean Phuket can be declared "state of emergency" like Bangkok a few month ago?
What IS the Internal Security Act?

Its whatever they want it to be.

Big 10-4 on above statement. Whatever the govt wants it to be is what it will be (and subject to daily mutations).

[hammered]

After the fiasco last time the strongest security law of the land was always going to be applied and if it wasnt it is likely the attending dignataries wouldnt have agreed to come. No surprise there.

[meelousee]

Well after the last attempted meeting I am not supprised.
The part that is worriesom is "take whatever measures are necessary to ensure security"

I agree that something must be done to protect dignataries from other countries. But in my experience here in Thailand "whatever measures are necessary" could be anything.

Good luck guy & gals down in Phukett

[PoeDogg]

Oh NO, the b*tch Clinton is coming.....thought I got away from her.
P.S., I will might be waterboarded and held forever for posting this.

[Grey11]

TAWP, on 2009-06-30 13:14:29, said:

They should do like one of the G8 meetings. Hold the event in some castle/mansion far from the city, some place that is easy to cord off some 1km from the site in question and arrest anyone that tries to go over any fence/barricade.

Or draw a line in the sand and shoot anyone that steps over it, but same-same...

Why they need to put these meetings in a tourist-location...is just beyond me. Or actually, it is not...it's about money.

The wealthiest and most powerful men in the world meet once a year in castles throughout Europe and Canada for the Bilderberber & Trilateralist. Unknown politicians have come out of these secret meetings - some editors of major U.S. newspapers are among the elites and yet nothing is written about the secret meetings of the world's movers and shakers - such as small state governor of Georgia, Jimmy Carter, and William Jefferson Blythe Clinton, from tiny Arkansas walked out of these secret meetings and were put at the front of the crowd as candidates for their political party. they were elected President. The elite invitees are flown over the giant walls in helicopters and many armed guards stand near the walls. Many other armed guards stands miles down the road, close it to through traffic and turn back all curious people. Surely the elites from the ASEAN countries know the tricks of the Trilaterlist Group and the Bilderberg Group. No person has ever infiltrated their secret meetings. The Red Shirts will be no match for these powerfully trained armies that guard the rich & famous. Toxin would love to have been here but the military needs to make certain that it beats back the Red Shirts. These thugs of Toxin's can and must be stopped.

[johnefallis]

les Dennis, on 2009-06-30 14:20:05, said:

with the Navy in town this week.


You simply must be American with that attitude. It may suprise you to know that many countries have navys, so stating 'the navy' doesn't actually clarify what countries navy is in Thailand.

Everybody knows which Navy is in town, even you. So what's the problem? Just mad it's not the Gay Navy? What? Just wondering?

[johnefallis]

poldebol, on 2009-07-01 10:08:25, said:

You simply must be American with that attitude. It may suprise you to know that many countries have navys, so stating 'the navy' doesn't actually clarify what countries navy is in Thailand.



Luxemburg Navy?

Actually, I don't think the girls, or the barstools care which Navy is in port.