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[balo]

Brainwashed North Koreans should seek refugee in Pattaya . Im sure their brain will start to function normally again after a few weeks in "Paradise".
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Edited by balo, 2012-01-10 05:39:01.

[godwave]

balo, on 2012-01-10 05:38:07, said:

Brainwashed North Koreans should seek refugee in Pattaya . Im sure their brain will start to function normally again after a few weeks in "Paradise".
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LOL. Talk about a culture shock.

[zzaa09]

mataus101, on 2012-01-10 05:07:11, said:

by international law i thought countries were obligated to help refugees as its not a crime to be one

International Law....??
What's that? And by whose standard?

International.

[draggons]

Watched a good documentary on this a while ago. It's about a three week journey for the refuges from NK to Thailand and not an easy one. Think that Thailand is about the only country in the region that doesn't deport them back to NK.

[parmo1]

bonobo, on 2012-01-09 22:04:19, said:

There are nations which refuse to extradite capital offense criminals to the US on the chance that they might face execution, so who wants to send someone to his or her death for just trying to get a new life?

Like Canada, USA's neighbour, to the north. All the AWOL Vietnam soldiers used to go there , most were only 18-20 year kids. USA used to give almost life jail sentences to "deserters".
But Thailand must be a real paradise after North Korea, i wonder how these North Koreans pay for the bus trips from China - Laos - Thailand ? It is not cheap

Edited by parmo1, 2012-01-10 09:56:07.

[lovelaos]

parmo1, on 2012-01-10 09:54:27, said:

bonobo, on 2012-01-09 22:04:19, said:

There are nations which refuse to extradite capital offense criminals to the US on the chance that they might face execution, so who wants to send someone to his or her death for just trying to get a new life?

Like Canada, USA's neighbour, to the north. All the AWOL Vietnam soldiers used to go there , most were only 18-20 year kids. USA used to give almost life jail sentences to "deserters".
But Thailand must be a real paradise after North Korea, i wonder how these North Koreans pay for the bus trips from China - Laos - Thailand ? It is not cheap

From the documentry I saw, they are helped by a christian, ex NK refugee fixer, working from South Korea. They don't see Thailand as the final destination but as stepping stone to South Korea.

[Mosha]

I saw the documentary, it was a fascinating story.

[mataus101]

you dont know about international law, zzaao9.
theres a long list of rights.

[baboon]

lovelaos, on 2012-01-10 10:24:34, said:

parmo1, on 2012-01-10 09:54:27, said:

bonobo, on 2012-01-09 22:04:19, said:

There are nations which refuse to extradite capital offense criminals to the US on the chance that they might face execution, so who wants to send someone to his or her death for just trying to get a new life?

Like Canada, USA's neighbour, to the north. All the AWOL Vietnam soldiers used to go there , most were only 18-20 year kids. USA used to give almost life jail sentences to "deserters".
But Thailand must be a real paradise after North Korea, i wonder how these North Koreans pay for the bus trips from China - Laos - Thailand ? It is not cheap

From the documentry I saw, they are helped by a christian, ex NK refugee fixer, working from South Korea. They don't see Thailand as the final destination but as stepping stone to South Korea.

....And if Thailand was the final destination, you can bet your boots these people would be deported sharpish. Thailand enjoys cordial relations with the DPRK as well as the ROK, and simply does not want penniless foreigners here regardless of their circumstances.

[zzaa09]

mataus101, on 2012-01-10 14:13:14, said:

you dont know about international law, zzaao9.
theres a long list of rights.

Again....by whose standards?

[StreetCowboy]

zzaa09, on 2012-01-10 18:45:36, said:

mataus101, on 2012-01-10 14:13:14, said:

you dont know about international law, zzaao9.
theres a long list of rights.

Again....by whose standards?

United Nations Declaration on Human Rights (for example)
"The following countries voted in favour of the Declaration^[12]:

• Afghanistan
  
• Argentina
  
• Australia
  
• Belgium
  
• Bolivia
  
• Brazil
  
• Burma
  
• Canada
  
• Chile
  
• Republic of China
  
• Colombia
  
• Costa Rica
  
• Cuba
  
• Denmark
  
• the Dominican Republic
  
• Ecuador
  
• El Salvador
  
• Egypt
  
• Ethiopia
  
• France
  
• Guatemala
  
• Haiti
  
• India
  
• Iran
  
• Iraq
  
• Lebanon
  
• Liberia
  
• Pakistan
  
• Greece
  
• Iceland
  
• Luxembourg
  
• Mexico
  
• the Netherlands
  
• New Zealand
  
• Nicaragua
  
• Norway
  
• Panama
  
• Paraguay
  
• Peru
  
• the Philippines
  
• Sweden
  
• Syria
  
• Thailand
  
• Turkey
  
• the United Kingdom
  
• the United States
  
• Uruguay
  
• Venezuela"

There were no votes against, "with eight abstentions: the USSR, Ukranian SSR, Byelorussian SSR, Yugoslavia, Poland, South Africa and Saudi Arabia"
http://en.wikipedia....of_Human_Rights

SC

[mataus101]

I never answered because I thought it was obvious and did not need to be spelled out, by the standards of all who sighned.

see above, thailands on the list.

Edited by mataus101, 2012-01-11 03:30:07.

[mataus101]

read article 14 below

• (1) Everyone has the right to seek and to enjoy in other countries asylum from persecution.
  
• (2) This right may not be invoked in the case of prosecutions genuinely arising from non-political crimes or from acts contrary to the purposes and principles of the United Nations

Edited by mataus101, 2012-01-11 03:43:26.

[samran]

zzaa09, on 2012-01-10 18:45:36, said:

mataus101, on 2012-01-10 14:13:14, said:

you dont know about international law, zzaao9.
theres a long list of rights.

Again....by whose standards?

I see Mr Grumpy Bottoms is awake, though with a bit of a hangover.

Edited by samran, 2012-01-11 08:25:16.

[exeter]

We should be lucky they are not aware of the United Kingdoms's benefit system.