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#1 Simonpetterson

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Posted 2009-07-04 14:09:09

Just bought a bike and don't really have a Thai that's too keen to have it in their name. In difficult communication between my bad thai, and the shop's bad English they were saying to get a letter from the Embassy (and 1000thb for them to do it for me), and they should be able to do it.

I haven't heard of this before, is it true?

And what letter or document should I ask the Embassy for? A letter saying I've been living here x amount of years, and my address (by bringing them my rental contract)?

And I'm on a Tourist Visa.

#2 LivinLOS

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Posted 2009-07-04 15:14:52

You need a 'proof of residence' this can be

Letter from immigration.. Some give it free, some charge, some wont ive it al all or want long stay visa's.
Letter from your embassy.. They should know what it is.
Work permit.
Yellow house book (not accepted everywhere I am told).

Any of those should work.. Secondly the law says you need a non imm visa, on phuket I have never had a problem putting cars bikes and anything in my name, but that is the law and I have heard rural provinces refusing.

#3 katabeachbum

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Posted 2009-07-04 17:53:16

View PostLivinLOS, on 2009-07-04 15:14:52, said:

You need a 'proof of residence' this can be

Letter from immigration.. Some give it free, some charge, some wont ive it al all or want long stay visa's.
Letter from your embassy.. They should know what it is.
Work permit.
Yellow house book (not accepted everywhere I am told).

Any of those should work.. Secondly the law says you need a non imm visa, on phuket I have never had a problem putting cars bikes and anything in my name, but that is the law and I have heard rural provinces refusing.

Its called "Certificate of Residence". I v never had a problem on touristvisa in 6,5 years and 20 bikes, cars and trucks. BKK, Hua Hin and Phuket.

#4 Simonpetterson

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Posted 2009-07-04 19:11:05

Excellent thanks.

Will send off an email to the embassy requesting a 'Cert. of residence'.

Thanks.

#5 12DrinkMore

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Posted 2009-07-04 19:24:42

View Postkatabeachbum, on 2009-07-04 17:53:16, said:

Its called "Certificate of Residence". I v never had a problem on touristvisa in 6,5 years and 20 bikes, cars and trucks. BKK, Hua Hin and Phuket.
Blimey, that's some going. A new car, bike or truck every four months over six years!

What happens, does the GF keep wrecking them? :) :D

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Posted 2009-07-05 02:17:09

View Post12DrinkMore, on 2009-07-04 20:24:42, said:

View Postkatabeachbum, on 2009-07-04 17:53:16, said:

Its called "Certificate of Residence". I v never had a problem on touristvisa in 6,5 years and 20 bikes, cars and trucks. BKK, Hua Hin and Phuket.
Blimey, that's some going. A new car, bike or truck every four months over six years!

What happens, does the GF keep wrecking them? :) :D


Apart from buying and selling, many of mine have been becuase the missus rents scooters..

Not sure if I have put 20 in my name.. But cant be far off it.

#7 Sisaketmike

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Posted 2009-07-06 13:47:30

View PostSimonpetterson, on 2009-07-04 14:09:09, said:

Just bought a bike and don't really have a Thai that's too keen to have it in their name. In difficult communication between my bad thai, and the shop's bad English they were saying to get a letter from the Embassy (and 1000thb for them to do it for me), and they should be able to do it.

I haven't heard of this before, is it true?

And what letter or document should I ask the Embassy for? A letter saying I've been living here x amount of years, and my address (by bringing them my rental contract)?

And I'm on a Tourist Visa.

Hi. It's very easy in some places. My bike is running on my name, because the Isaan is easier to arrange anything. But I do have a work permit, but not quiete sure if you really need one. Find somebody from this country, I guess there's an easy way to get the bike and insurance on your name. Good luck.

#8 BigBikeBKK

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Posted 2009-07-06 14:00:27

View PostSimonpetterson, on 2009-07-04 14:09:09, said:

And I'm on a Tourist Visa.

Law says you can not register a vehicle without a non-imm visa. Of course TiT- there's almost nothing that a little money can't fix :D :D :) :D

Edited by BigBikeBKK, 2009-07-06 14:21:55.


#9 katabeachbum

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Posted 2009-07-06 14:49:08

View PostBigBikeBKK, on 2009-07-06 14:00:27, said:

View PostSimonpetterson, on 2009-07-04 14:09:09, said:

And I'm on a Tourist Visa.

Law says you can not register a vehicle without a non-imm visa. Of course TiT- there's almost nothing that a little money can't fix :D :D :) :D


They v never looked at my visa. Only Certificate of residence. Never payed one baht. :D

#10 katabeachbum

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Posted 2009-07-06 14:57:29

View Post12DrinkMore, on 2009-07-04 19:24:42, said:

View Postkatabeachbum, on 2009-07-04 17:53:16, said:

Its called "Certificate of Residence". I v never had a problem on touristvisa in 6,5 years and 20 bikes, cars and trucks. BKK, Hua Hin and Phuket.
Blimey, that's some going. A new car, bike or truck every four months over six years!

What happens, does the GF keep wrecking them? :) :D


None wrecked (yet) :D
A new car or truck every year. In 2006 actually 3, Yaris, Vigo and Camry.
2 or more new stepthroughtwistandgo a year, Yammy Elegance presently, one in each home.
Employees bikes.
Big bikes.
Actually I passed 20 when counting.

#11 Simonpetterson

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Posted 2009-07-08 12:37:25

Thanks. The cost from the Embassy is 940b. The shop wants 1000B for doing the change over, leeches.

If I go for this option and do it myself, do I just take the Cert. of Res. and green book to the Dept of Transport?

The last ownership page in the green book has been signed (in the centre at the bottom of the page) and then stamped twice on the left and right just under this. The same as the previous pages so I presume the shop doesn't need to sign anything else.

Thanks.

#12 BigBikeBKK

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Posted 2009-07-08 13:17:18

You presume a lot...

What kind of bike? Where are you located? Have you had a Thai friend look over the Green Book?

Have you checked to see if you can register bike with a tourist visa? You won't be able to register it in Bangkok.

And the shop offering to take care of the paperwork for only 1000 Baht sounds like a good deal to me, but then my time is valuable :)

#13 Simonpetterson

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Posted 2009-07-08 15:44:33

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What kind of bike?
CBR150. 4 years old.

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Where are you located?
Bangkok.

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Have you had a Thai friend look over the Green Book?
Yes.

#14 Simonpetterson

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Posted 2009-07-08 15:45:28

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Have you checked to see if you can register bike with a tourist visa?
Yes. On this thread. Everybody has said that they didn't have any trouble with a TV. One guy has said that he's never had a problem with 20+ bikes on a TV.

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You won't be able to register it in Bangkok.
Okay then.

Pattaya?

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And the shop offering to take care of the paperwork for only 1000 Baht sounds like a good deal to me.

Last bike they did it all for free, but that was into a Thais name. This time it was more the way slimey bloke said it at the end as everything was complete as he looked me up and down with $$ signs in his eyes, and a contemptuous fcuk you farang tone of voice.

Edited by Simonpetterson, 2009-07-08 15:47:32.


#15 BigBikeBKK

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Posted 2009-07-08 17:49:30

^ Ok- a Made in Thailand CBR150 should be no problem. (I had been wondering if it was an imported bike in which case you have to be much more careful).
As far as registering on a tourist visa, again, the law says no, but seems outside of Bangkok some provinces will accept a tourist visa for vehicle registration. Other than Phuket and Nakorn Ratchasima I don't know what other provinces will allow you to register a vehicle with only a Tourist Visa.
Good luck and happy trails!
Tony

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Posted 2009-07-08 18:02:20

oh.. lets see what happens to me then. At Kawasaki on Rama IX they told me I only needed the certificate of residency. I gave them this, a copy of my passport and the latest entry stamp since i'm still here on Tourist Visa. I sounded like it will be no problems at all and that the bike will be registered in my name within 2 weeks. Otherwise I guess I will have to start from scratch once I receive my non-immigration ED in 3-4 weeks.. Maybe they only wanted to sell the bike and that they don't care what happens later on..!?

peace,
Johan

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Posted 2009-07-08 19:27:09

Last year purchased and sold a cbr 150.
Got a letter of residence from the embassy.Purchased a new honda.
Sold later to a Farang he had a Tourist visa as did I.
He got a letter of reidency. We went to the department that handles
the transfers sold to him.
This was no problem in Chiang Mai.

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Posted 2009-07-08 20:56:56

View Postthaitot, on 2009-07-08 20:27:09, said:

Last year purchased and sold a cbr 150.
Got a letter of residence from the embassy.Purchased a new honda.
Sold later to a Farang he had a Tourist visa as did I.
He got a letter of reidency. We went to the department that handles
the transfers sold to him.
This was no problem in Chiang Mai.


I keep on reading about the need of Non Imm O or B to register vehicle, but has anyone ever been denied to register on tourist or entrystamp with Certificate of Residence? I just cant believe I v been lucky without Non Imm 20+ times :) Nor my friends :D

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Posted 2009-07-10 00:23:29

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You won't be able to register it in Bangkok.
Okay then.

Pattaya?


So your resident paper lists Pattaya as your changwat / region then ??

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And the shop offering to take care of the paperwork for only 1000 Baht sounds like a good deal to me.

Last bike they did it all for free, but that was into a Thais name. This time it was more the way slimey bloke said it at the end as everything was complete as he looked me up and down with $$ signs in his eyes, and a contemptuous fcuk you farang tone of voice.

Well here on Phuket the fee direct to the DMV to move the bike if I do it all myself was 2k (bigger bike)..

Really pick your battles.. A rand not to have to fight the system.. Bargain.. Pay it and laugh at the pettyness of a rand being important to him.

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Posted 2009-07-10 00:26:18

View Postkatabeachbum, on 2009-07-08 21:56:56, said:

View Postthaitot, on 2009-07-08 20:27:09, said:

Last year purchased and sold a cbr 150.
Got a letter of residence from the embassy.Purchased a new honda.
Sold later to a Farang he had a Tourist visa as did I.
He got a letter of reidency. We went to the department that handles
the transfers sold to him.
This was no problem in Chiang Mai.


I keep on reading about the need of Non Imm O or B to register vehicle, but has anyone ever been denied to register on tourist or entrystamp with Certificate of Residence? I just cant believe I v been lucky without Non Imm 20+ times :) Nor my friends :D

I have heard of it in the boonies.. And theres no doubt it is the law (I have posted multiple links) but on Phuket and most farang experienced zones they just let it slide. However it only takes someone tobe difficult and your stuck.

I have done reg's on a 30 day stamp when between visa's before.

#21 Simonpetterson

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Posted 2009-07-10 08:04:45

Thanks all. I actually think I'm just going to do the easy option of putting into my partner's name like my last bike.

If I can ask, is it normally free for the shops to do this once you've paid for the bike. (the shop has about 50 bikes for sale so they're hardly not used to doing it). My last bike out in the sticks was done for free, but I just didn't like the try and screw you farang attitude of this shop (or the admin dealing with me at least) and at the end he demanded I give him 1000b for changing it over into my name when I bring him the docs. I didn't like it. Should it usually be done for free, especially when into a Thais name?

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Posted 2009-07-10 13:01:53

View PostSimonpetterson, on 2009-07-10 09:04:45, said:

Should it usually be done for free, especially when into a Thais name?

No !! the DMV charges to change. Why should he pay your costs ??

Even a scooter is a few hundred maybe close to a grand.

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Posted 2009-07-10 16:37:33

View PostSimonpetterson, on 2009-07-08 12:37:25, said:

Thanks. The cost from the Embassy is 940b. The shop wants 1000B for doing the change over, leeches.

If I go for this option and do it myself, do I just take the Cert. of Res. and green book to the Dept of Transport?

The last ownership page in the green book has been signed (in the centre at the bottom of the page) and then stamped twice on the left and right just under this. The same as the previous pages so I presume the shop doesn't need to sign anything else.

Thanks.


Having got over 15 bikes in my name now ( I rent them) I would say for the extra 60 THB give it to them and avoid the hassle and stree of visiting the Department of Transport - its alot easier and quicker from my experience.

I have a Non Im B Visa so I just show them that and my work permit but friends of mine just show the proof of residence document and its fine.

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Posted 2009-07-12 11:05:31

View PostSimonpetterson, on 2009-07-10 09:04:45, said:

Thanks all. I actually think I'm just going to do the easy option of putting into my partner's name like my last bike.

If I can ask, is it normally free for the shops to do this once you've paid for the bike. (the shop has about 50 bikes for sale so they're hardly not used to doing it). My last bike out in the sticks was done for free, but I just didn't like the try and screw you farang attitude of this shop (or the admin dealing with me at least) and at the end he demanded I give him 1000b for changing it over into my name when I bring him the docs. I didn't like it. Should it usually be done for free, especially when into a Thais name?


DMV charges 380 + 20 = 400 baht for a scooter, so if they can do 150cc for a grand, done deal. :)

#25 Simonpetterson

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Posted 2009-07-15 07:40:34

I'm heading over today with my partner to do the whole green book thing. Where is it that I go though?

The Dept. of Transport opposite Chatujak Park?

Thanks.



 


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