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Posted 2009-07-29 12:10:00
 soundman, on 2009-07-29 08:17:12, said:
The new rules, which also cover Internet cafes, allow children to play computer games for more than three hours and up to six hours a day, says Culture Minister Teera Salakpetch.
Those under 15 will be allowed to use the service from 2pm to 8pm from Monday to Friday and from 10am to 8pm during holidays and school breaks, while those aged 15 to 18 can play games until 10pm, Teera says.
The Cabinet also agreed that an IT system to keep kids under 18 from playing computer games for more than three hours a day should be ready before a ministerial regulation amendment is proposed later, he added.
-- The Nation 2009 07 29
Woow.. this is some regime regulations. I thought this would be family matters. Teaching behaviour and moral is not a governments job.
Does the thai parents also do a lousy job?
Edited by Paddleshifter, 2009-07-29 12:10:52.
Posted 2009-07-29 12:15:08
raro, on 2009-07-29 10:18:11, said: soundman, on 2009-07-29 08:52:39, said: This will probably put a few people out of work. 
Quote The Cabinet has approved new regulations that prohibit karaoke parlours from providing drinking or singing partners to customers, with their business licences being revoked if they do.
Just deny access to karaoke to those who can't sing and the problem is solved 
brilliant..... that will definitely solve the whole thing.. LOL
Posted 2009-07-29 12:16:31
davidwright, on 2009-07-29 12:03:13, said: webfact, on 2009-07-29 09:13:26, said: soundman, on 2009-07-29 01:17:12, said: <snip>
The new rules, which also cover Internet cafes, allow children to play computer games for more than three hours and up to six hours a day, says Culture Minister Teera Salakpetch.
Those under 15 will be allowed to use the service from 2pm to 8pm from Monday to Friday and from 10am to 8pm during holidays and school breaks, while those aged 15 to 18 can play games until 10pm, Teera says.
The Cabinet also agreed that an IT system to keep kids under 18 from playing computer games for more than three hours a day should be ready before a ministerial regulation amendment is proposed later, he added.
IMPOSSIBLE!. How can that work??? Every game shop has its own server! Does someone really think game shop owners are going to "kill" their own business and follow these rules... No! IMHO
TiT where they can't even provide proper internet connections...
You will find everything will continue as normal except that the famous "tea money" bucket will now find its way to the internet shops! The BIB must have asked for a pay rise...As for Karoke bars not being able to supply singing partners WTF! cannot get my head round that one.What is this new law trying to say? Maybe there should be a new law across the board which says, "All woman are equiped to be hookers so they are banned from public places"! Things will stay the same at the Karoke bars as long as the tea bucket is replenished...
"All woman are equiped to be hookers so they are banned from public places"!
works in Islam
Edited by RKASA, 2009-07-29 12:17:21.
Posted 2009-07-29 12:16:31
 raro, on 2009-07-29 10:18:11, said: soundman, on 2009-07-29 08:52:39, said: This will probably put a few people out of work.
Quote The Cabinet has approved new regulations that prohibit karaoke parlours from providing drinking or singing partners to customers, with their business licences being revoked if they do.
Just deny access to karaoke to those who can't sing and the problem is solved
brilliant..... that will definitely solve the whole thing.. LOL
Posted 2009-07-29 12:20:40
soundman, on 2009-07-29 08:17:12, said: The Cabinet has approved new regulations that prohibit karaoke parlours from providing drinking or singing partners to customers, with their business licences being revoked if they do.
I very strange step indeed, 90% of karaoke parlours will go out of business. I wonder, is this the start of a new crusade to sanitize the Kingdom of prostitution? I hope not, for their sake. Prostitution is the only reason left to go to Pattaya, Patpong, or Patong.
The adage is coming true for Thailand...Burma with electricity.
Edited by Scubabuddha, 2009-07-29 12:23:34.
Posted 2009-07-29 12:22:43
I think the point of passing laws for the karoke bars and internet cafes is to help boost the police pension program. After all now they have new laws for which they can extract more tea money. As for the movie ratings, I don't suppose local DVD vendor really checks ID for age when he is selling the pirated DVD's.
Seems like the current government must not have much to do worrying about such things as Karoke bars and internet cafes.
Edited by Trouble, 2009-07-29 12:24:47.
Posted 2009-07-29 12:23:10
soundman, on 2009-07-28 15:17:12, said: Laying down the law
BANGKOK: -- The Cabinet has approved new regulations that prohibit karaoke parlours from providing drinking or singing partners to customers, with their business licences being revoked if they do.
-- The Nation 2009 07 29
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ohhhh, stoppit, yer killin' me...
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Posted 2009-07-29 12:25:37
So for Karaoke, it's now BYOB....Bring Your own Babe (a number of other B words can be inserted).
If I were a Thai entrepreneur, I would start a drive through 'bar' where you can pick up your girl and then go singing. Maybe even a delivery service.
For many people this will be sad, they may have to resort to bringing the Mrs. with them!
Posted 2009-07-29 12:30:53
geovalin, on 2009-07-29 09:40:52, said: quiksilva, on 2009-07-29 01:52:45, said: The karaoke thing is a huge double standard, why crack down on that and turn a blind eye to massage parlours and go go bars?
You are probably misinformed: there are NO massage parlors with sexy girls, NO gogo bars in Thailand. Anyway, prostitution and pornography are illegal in this country.
According
Posted 2009-07-29 12:35:29
MaiThaiMai, on 2009-07-29 13:23:10, said: soundman, on 2009-07-28 15:17:12, said: Laying down the law
BANGKOK: -- The Cabinet has approved new regulations that prohibit karaoke parlours from providing drinking or singing partners to customers, with their business licences being revoked if they do.
-- The Nation 2009 07 29
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ohhhh, stoppit, yer killin' me...
ha-ha-ha...uhhh, uh-ha - uh-ha - uh-ha - what's the point again?
I think this is a very positive move made by very competant people. Are we to assume you think this is funny? Your post is at best 'vague'. Please post your opinons clearly in future. Thank you.
Posted 2009-07-29 12:36:48
Posted 2009-07-29 12:37:27
Paddleshifter, on 2009-07-29 12:10:00, said: soundman, on 2009-07-29 08:17:12, said: The new rules, which also cover Internet cafes, allow children to play computer games for more than three hours and up to six hours a day, says Culture Minister Teera Salakpetch.
Those under 15 will be allowed to use the service from 2pm to 8pm from Monday to Friday and from 10am to 8pm during holidays and school breaks, while those aged 15 to 18 can play games until 10pm, Teera says.
The Cabinet also agreed that an IT system to keep kids under 18 from playing computer games for more than three hours a day should be ready before a ministerial regulation amendment is proposed later, he added.
-- The Nation 2009 07 29
Woow.. this is some regime regulations. I thought this would be family matters. Teaching behaviour and moral is not a governments job.
Does the thai parents also do a lousy job?
If the Children have Parents. Often they dont , some other aunt or grandparent , or other is the legal guardian, So There is no guidance. I have spoken to Thai teachers who have visited childrens legal guardian and its a sad situation sometimes. Basically the Kids do what they want with no Role Model other than "Disco dance and Shooting game " on the computers
Edited by sunnymarky, 2009-07-29 12:39:12.
Posted 2009-07-29 12:38:10
soundman, on 2009-07-29 08:17:12, said: Laying down the law
New regulations on karaoke, Internet gaming, film ratings set to take effect
BANGKOK: -- The Cabinet has approved new regulations that prohibit karaoke parlours from providing drinking or singing partners to customers, with their business licences being revoked if they do.
Deputy government spokes-man Phumin Leetheeraprasert said the Cabinet also assigned the Office of the Council of State to adjust some of the wording before the regulations are implemented.
The new rules, which also cover Internet cafes, allow children to play computer games for more than three hours and up to six hours a day, says Culture Minister Teera Salakpetch.
Those under 15 will be allowed to use the service from 2pm to 8pm from Monday to Friday and from 10am to 8pm during holidays and school breaks, while those aged 15 to 18 can play games until 10pm, Teera says.
The Cabinet also agreed that an IT system to keep kids under 18 from playing computer games for more than three hours a day should be ready before a ministerial regulation amendment is proposed later, he added.
Seven movie categories
Other regulations approved concern film ratings. The minister said there were seven categories: educational films people are encouraged to see; films suitable for the general audience; films suitable for those over 13; films suitable for those over 15; films suitable for those over 18; films restricted for persons under 20, and films banned from being screened in the Kingdom.
Teera also said that the ministry has finished making the six rating symbols and would submit them to the National Committee on Film and Video in mid-August before they are implemented.
The symbols are: "Sor" (from the Thai word song serm that means "promoted") for educational films people are encouraged to see; "Thor" (from thua pai meaning "general") for films suitable for the general audience; "Nor 13+" (Nor is from naenam meaning "advisory") for films suitable for those over 13; "Nor 15+"; "Nor 18+", and "Chor 20+" (Chor is from chapor that means "specific") for films restricted for persons under 20.
The two regulations should take effect in mid-August.
-- The Nation 2009 07 29
Wow! The government can issue REGULATIONS that apparently don't need to be vetted in public hearings. That's very fair.
Issuing regulations is a good way to also bypass Parliament where a debate would have to take place on changes to the law.
Quite....dictatorial.
Posted 2009-07-29 12:40:57
Trouble, on 2009-07-29 12:22:43, said: I think the point of passing laws for the karoke bars and internet cafes is to help boost the police pension program. After all now they have new laws for which they can extract more tea money. As for the movie ratings, I don't suppose local DVD vendor really checks ID for age when he is selling the pirated DVD's.
Seems like the current government must not have much to do worrying about such things as Karoke bars and internet cafes.
Excuse me. No laws were PASSED. that implies them going through the parliamentary process. This are regulations that are being imposed without public hearing or input from the regulated public.
WHAT A JOKE AGAIN.
Posted 2009-07-29 12:46:51
RKASA, on 2009-07-29 10:45:29, said: Thanh-BKK, on 2009-07-29 11:32:35, said: Hi.
I for one agree to these changes. Have you ever been in the situation where you actually NEEDED an internet cafe, maybe because your computer just died or you were far away from home when your boss called to tell you that you urgently need to reply to a business e-mail? Then you got to an internet cafe and ALL the computers were occupied with kids playing senseless shoot-em-up games, with more kids waiting in line already? So you went looking for another internet cafe and it was the exact same situation there? Happened to me, not once but twice already.
And how about parents bringing their three-year-olds to the theater to watch horror movies which, in the western world, would be restricted to 18+ audiences? No wonder everyone in this country believes in ghosts when they start "learning" of their presence in empty houses from such a young age. On the other hand if the captain of the Titanic is shown on an oil painting during a documentary about the Titanic, his cigar is pixelated. As is any beer bottle. However a minute later Singha and Johnny Walker run their advertisements (carefully avoiding to show the product, as if not even kids knew what that product is!)
So if all television is censored to be watched by toddlers, i very much welcome a rating system for movies. Just make sure it is done right! I.e. do NOT censor all movies to be suitable for The Children™ but run uncensored versions that may even show a nipple or a cigarette at times and make sure the audience is 16 or 18 or whatever required (ID check is simple).
They have this sort of rating everywhere in the developed world and nobody complains, so why not here?
Best regards.....
Thanh
The R rating in the US is not for the horror in the film, its the 5 seconds of a nud_e girl they cut into the film so they can get the rating they wanted, because R rated sells more tickets. True fact. And it has proven to up the sale of video games as well.
Don't write about what you don't know.
The R rating is also for graphic violence and language, not JUST nudity.
Posted 2009-07-29 12:47:16
minxwhale, on 2009-07-29 13:38:10, said: soundman, on 2009-07-29 08:17:12, said: Laying down the law
New regulations on karaoke, Internet gaming, film ratings set to take effect
BANGKOK: -- The Cabinet has approved new regulations that prohibit karaoke parlours from providing drinking or singing partners to customers, with their business licences being revoked if they do.
Deputy government spokes-man Phumin Leetheeraprasert said the Cabinet also assigned the Office of the Council of State to adjust some of the wording before the regulations are implemented.
The new rules, which also cover Internet cafes, allow children to play computer games for more than three hours and up to six hours a day, says Culture Minister Teera Salakpetch.
Those under 15 will be allowed to use the service from 2pm to 8pm from Monday to Friday and from 10am to 8pm during holidays and school breaks, while those aged 15 to 18 can play games until 10pm, Teera says.
The Cabinet also agreed that an IT system to keep kids under 18 from playing computer games for more than three hours a day should be ready before a ministerial regulation amendment is proposed later, he added.
Seven movie categories
Other regulations approved concern film ratings. The minister said there were seven categories: educational films people are encouraged to see; films suitable for the general audience; films suitable for those over 13; films suitable for those over 15; films suitable for those over 18; films restricted for persons under 20, and films banned from being screened in the Kingdom.
Teera also said that the ministry has finished making the six rating symbols and would submit them to the National Committee on Film and Video in mid-August before they are implemented.
The symbols are: "Sor" (from the Thai word song serm that means "promoted") for educational films people are encouraged to see; "Thor" (from thua pai meaning "general") for films suitable for the general audience; "Nor 13+" (Nor is from naenam meaning "advisory") for films suitable for those over 13; "Nor 15+"; "Nor 18+", and "Chor 20+" (Chor is from chapor that means "specific") for films restricted for persons under 20.
The two regulations should take effect in mid-August.
-- The Nation 2009 07 29
Wow! The government can issue REGULATIONS that apparently don't need to be vetted in public hearings. That's very fair.
Issuing regulations is a good way to also bypass Parliament where a debate would have to take place on changes to the law.
Quite....dictatorial.
The UK govt. makes rules as they go along. There are also film ratings decided by 'bodies'. Don't think the UK has desicions made by a dictator though. Certainly a dic! 
Posted 2009-07-29 12:47:24
This is just the beginning.
Moral regulations are popular with the educated elite . They want a Thailand where everyone lives a simple, self-sufficient lifestyle (only 2 maids and perhaps a driver) and any prostitutes they purchase are serviced and bought discretly: so the wider world sees thailand as the paragon of virtue it really is. It is a draw of the Democrats and PAD that they are big on morality issues .
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Posted 2009-07-29 12:51:17
What's the point in film ratings when violence is on terrestrial TV channels throughout the day?
Poorly thought out and impossible to implement, as is normally the case in Thailand.
The hypocrisy is so thick that they hand out laws against female company in karaoke bars yet one of the cabinet members is a brothel madam, in charge of a vast empire of prostitution and people-trafficking.
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Posted 2009-07-29 12:55:45
prohibition on Karaoke will cause unemployment; while the internet things causes harmness to kids
how do they think in their minds?
Posted 2009-07-29 13:02:16
Please be fair about this, there's karaoke in Japanese Clubs,
but there's a world of difference between a Japanese Club
and a Thai Karaoke Bar?.
Posted 2009-07-29 13:02:39
webfact, on 2009-07-29 12:14:28, said: This reminds me of Purachai Piumsombun... 
K.Puarchi, IMHO, had 'beliefs & rational social motivation' to change LOS for the better - wheras this pronouncement is similar to political/media 'silly season' in UK/USA,etc......
beyond belief and irrationally antisocial.....
Rock on August.
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Posted 2009-07-29 13:03:58
raro, on 2009-07-29 10:18:11, said: soundman, on 2009-07-29 08:52:39, said: This will probably put a few people out of work.
Quote The Cabinet has approved new regulations that prohibit karaoke parlours from providing drinking or singing partners to customers, with their business licences being revoked if they do.
Just deny access to karaoke to those who can't sing and the problem is solved
That really would put them out of business! 
Posted 2009-07-29 13:04:55
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Khun Purachai....that is/was.
Posted 2009-07-29 13:09:17
grantbkk, on 2009-07-29 10:32:24, said: the new advertising campaign should be tagged:
Thailand! Burma with Electricity
THAT is funny.
i don't know the Thai's well enough to really comment, but the kind of comical stuff their interchangeable governments come up with is embarrassingly comical to the world outside of Thailand. my question to those of you who have lived in Thailand for a while: do many Thai's realize how mickey mouse their govt comes across, or is the Thai pride thing so ingrained that they just don't see it?
as i read this, all i can think is that this is the govt. cozying up more to the BiB. 'you want more money? no problem, we'll create some more ridiculous laws to give you a new avenue for tea money'.
Edited by idiot farang, 2009-07-29 13:10:19.
Posted 2009-07-29 13:09:49
geovalin, on 2009-07-29 09:40:52, said: quiksilva, on 2009-07-29 01:52:45, said: The karaoke thing is a huge double standard, why crack down on that and turn a blind eye to massage parlours and go go bars?
You are probably misinformed: there are NO massage parlors with sexy girls, NO gogo bars in Thailand. Anyway, prostitution and pornography are illegal in this country.
BR><BR><BR>According to Chief of Police in Phuket, which was printed in the Phuket Gazette two years ago:
Massage Parlours where the girls are free to leave at any time and they have the ability to say NO to the customer who choses her are Legal. Kept women and the ones where the mamasan forces them to service a customer are Illegal. They are to preform a massage! Anything else is between two consulting adults.
Go Go Bars are no more than bars with dancers for your entertainment, however nakedness and lude acts are Illegal and the girls are fined and the bar can be closed down. Similar to topless bathing is illegal and warrents a 500 baht fine. However a bar fine is legal, you are paying to take away a girl from her place of work and depriving the business of a worker. The bar fine only entitles the customer to spend time with the girl, ie go for a meal, cinema, bowling etc. Anything else is just a business agreement between two consulting adults.
Prostitution is illegal, defined by: a postitute is a girl / boy who approaches potential customers offering services. ie the street walkers on walking street and beach road, they are legal as long as they dont approach us. We approach them and again it is a business transaction between two consulting adults. As long as they do not work for a street mamasan/pimp.
pornography is illegal and thai pornography warrents a jail sentence foreign porn in small quantities, for your own viewing will be destroyed if found in your possession. sales and distribution warrents a jail sentence.
Dont shoot the messenger!
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