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Posted 2009-07-30 17:48:43
 DMasut, on 2009-07-30 18:22:58, said:
1,500THB for 90km/45miles isn't too bad...but considering you can take a MiniVan or 1st Class Sleeper Train to anywhere in Thailand for that amount, it is still expensive.
However this is Thailand, not your home country...and by overpaying you encourage the 'dishonest' practices to continue.
PEOPLE...STOP THIS...COMPARED TO MY COUNTRY THINKING...it is not relative for anything except your pocket...and not up for speculation of others to gauge how much they can get away with overcharging you.
It is just wrong for them to do so. If the well dried up they would disappear and you would have a greater time in Thailand that is MUCH LESS EXPENSIVE.
IT's not about how much money you have and how much you can afford...it is as much a matter of principal.
Can you please stop using BOLD letters?
1500 Baht for a 90Km trip is dirt cheap! You cannot compare using public transportation, as you have a limousine all by yourself. I took the 6 hours 3rd class train trip to Aranyaprathet once. I paid 46 Baht. Well, I don't recommend it, though it was interesting..
Posted 2009-07-30 17:51:23
can't say I have ever had a problem at the counter - if you state your destination in Thai, they just take you there, on the meter......
h90, on 2009-07-30 15:59:31, said: george, on 2009-07-30 15:23:52, said: Crackdown on illegal taxis begins at Suvarnabhumi Airport Friday
BANGKOK: -- Illegal taxis at Bangkok’s Suvarnabhumi International Airport will be targeted in a crackdown by the authorities from Friday, according to Deputy Director of the Department of Land Transport Chairat Sanguansue.
Speaking in his capacity of chairman of the sub-committee to regulate public transport at Suvarnabhumi, Mr. Chairat said intensified crackdowns on unauthorised taxis will start Friday July 31.
Notices have been issued and posted at the airport and a public relations campaign has been initiated to warn offenders, he said.
Meanwhile, police officers and security guards patrolling airport premises on Thursday began warning unlicensed tour guides before beginning to arresting those who are unlicensed from August 9.
-- TNA 2009-07-30
It is not (only) the illegal taxis who scam the tourists. The legal taxis and the official counter where you get the official ticket are scam. Every time they try to scam me different.....
Posted 2009-07-30 17:54:17
DMasut, on 2009-07-30 18:13:45, said: AOT Limos are aggressively and unfairly promoted, costing three times more!
I think its a really fair choice for anyone. They have bigger and better cars for everyone. A great example is a family with a lot of baggage, that simple doesn't fit in a regular taxi with a huge gas-tank in the trunk. 800 Baht for a minivan to CBD is great value for money!
Posted 2009-07-30 17:56:20
slim, on 2009-07-30 16:03:38, said: Illegal taxi's?
What are they?
I always walk outside to the public taxi rank and get a ticket for a metered taxi - no meter - no ride.
I always ignore the countless offers for taxi's inside the airport.
These public taxi's cant be illegal as there's a notice inside the airport pointing them out? Which are the illegal ones?
I guess this wont be an issue when the rail link opens (when is that by the way? - not soon enough as far as I'm concerned)
.....and for those of us not wanting to transit within BKK metro? What about long-distance taxis? As a rule one can make a decent bargain with the counter/screener.
Posted 2009-07-30 17:56:29
Can anyone explain why all the "exits" from the airport have been closed except Exit 3? As far as I can see, it's simply a way to make sure everyone exits to AOT llimo service. I used to go out Exit 9 or 10 and wait for my ride with no crowds. Now it's just chaos trying to get out. Again, it seems to be just for the convenience of AOT. Any other explanations?
Posted 2009-07-30 18:01:02
rwhoov, on 2009-07-30 18:56:29, said: Can anyone explain why all the "exits" from the airport have been closed except Exit 3? As far as I can see, it's simply a way to make sure everyone exits to AOT llimo service. I used to go out Exit 9 or 10 and wait for my ride with no crowds. Now it's just chaos trying to get out. Again, it seems to be just for the convenience of AOT. Any other explanations?
Just the opposite. It keeps all the people providing illegal taxi services away, and lead you straight out to one meeting area, which also happens to be the exit for the public taxi service.
Posted 2009-07-30 18:01:09
dude007, on 2009-07-30 16:14:58, said: and what about the tuk-tuk mafia in Phuket! Can they go on with their overpriced system of 200 THB starting price no matter how close you want to go or is this perhaps "legal" since only farangs are using them?
Why the so-called-legal airport-taxis at Phuket can charge you 700 THB instead of a normal 250 THB for a drive to Patong beach? Which VIP or Bonze is this tuk-tuk-mafia feeding in Phuket that nobody distrubs them (for sure not the men in brown) and that they can go on undisturbed cheating farangs and ripping-off tourists?
There is much more to do than catching the (already escaped and disappeared) illegal taxis in Suvarnabhumi to re-establish the confidence of the tourists in this country. The shoplift scam is in my opinion much a worse case to worry... but it doesn't seem to bother the authorities. Even the PM had an explanation to this scam!
Yes, as long as they've become religious regarding the illegal transport at Swampy - why not do a clean sweep? Phuket, Samui, Hua Hin, Krabi, et al need a complete overhaul and monitor system in place.
Posted 2009-07-30 18:02:12
TEFLKrabi, on 2009-07-30 04:44:31, said: Is it my imagination, and I don't mean to offend here, but our USA visitors seem happier to pay "over the odds" for their taxis as well as giving hefty tips too?
If everyone just went to the correct taxi desk and took a ticket, there would be no mafia at the airport. That said, I prefer the fun and games of the negotiation at departures. It prepares you for everyday life in Thailand.
Taxi's in Thailand are a very good value compared to the US. If I took a taxi from my home to the airport (18 miles) it would cost ~$70/2400 baht. I can get a taxi in Bangkok that takes me downtown or to Don Muang (yeah, I know, no more, but for comparison purposes) from Suv for ~1000-1200 baht. I am not going to complain about this price when it would be double or more here. Maybe it is overpriced to folks who live there year round, but it is a bargain if you're used to taxis here. It is all relative as to your frame of reference.
Best Regards,
Ken B
Posted 2009-07-30 18:04:03
Sometimes I think its a different Thailand I am travelling to compared to other people on here. I have never come across any problem at all with taxis at Suv. The touts dont bother me I just ignore them. Use the meter or agree the fare in advance. Whats the problem? What are these so-called illegal taxis?
Its when I get back to Heathrow in the UK that I get annoyed. Like so many other aspects of life, the scams in the UK are worse than in Thailand but here they are legal.
At Heathrow only Black Cabs are allowed to pick up. These are a scam in themselves, but even more so at Heathrow because unless you want to go a long distance from the airport they refuse to take you. They want a minimum of 40 GBP (2160 baht) to go anywhere at all, but a reasonable journey into Central London will be at least 50 GBP.
Other taxis such as minicabs do pickup at the airport but they are not officially allowed to so you have to liase with the driver by phone and be ready to jump in the moment he appears in the departure drop-off area. Its a total joke. There is even a plan to charge all cars which enter the airport area.
Compared to the UK, getting around in Thailand is a pure delight, with so many inexpensive options, taxis, buses, even the official airport limos are not bad value.
I hope this crackdown is the usual Thai "be seen to be doing something but not really change anything" as the "system" (if it can be called that) seems perfectly OK to me.
On the subject of trolleys, try flying into Gatwick airport when its busy. Bet you wont get a trolley for 15-20 mins if you are one of the last off the plane.
Posted 2009-07-30 18:06:55
george, on 2009-07-30 15:23:52, said: Crackdown on illegal taxis begins at Suvarnabhumi Airport Friday
BANGKOK: -- Illegal taxis at Bangkok’s Suvarnabhumi International Airport will be targeted in a crackdown by the authorities from Friday, according to Deputy Director of the Department of Land Transport Chairat Sanguansue.
Speaking in his capacity of chairman of the sub-committee to regulate public transport at Suvarnabhumi, Mr. Chairat said intensified crackdowns on unauthorised taxis will start Friday July 31.
Notices have been issued and posted at the airport and a public relations campaign has been initiated to warn offenders, he said.
Meanwhile, police officers and security guards patrolling airport premises on Thursday began warning unlicensed tour guides before beginning to arresting those who are unlicensed from August 9.
-- TNA 2009-07-30
Do you (does anyone) really think that thay are gonna get a handle on these scum who have taken over Suvaranbhumi.
If anyone believe this shyt they must believe in fairies.
The whole thing is just one helluva a joke.
Nothing is gonna change. Thailand is a joke 
Thailand has not got the bottle to to do SFA 
Posted 2009-07-30 18:20:40
slim, on 2009-07-30 16:03:38, said: Illegal taxi's?
What are they?
I always walk outside to the public taxi rank and get a ticket for a metered taxi - no meter - no ride.
I always ignore the countless offers for taxi's inside the airport.
These public taxi's cant be illegal as there's a notice inside the airport pointing them out? Which are the illegal ones?
I guess this wont be an issue when the rail link opens (when is that by the way? - not soon enough as far as I'm concerned)
The taxi meter, the one's you join the queue and pay the 50 baht surcharge, and the airport limo the ones with all desks inside the airport are the legal ones. Everything else is illigal.
And for everyone complaining about the 50 baht surcharge, I don't belive the taxi drivers get that. I think they have to pay 50 baht to join the taxi queue. If you read the paper that you get before getting in the taxi, it has the taxis details and a complaint form you can fill out if the taxi tries to scam you in any way. All you have to do is mail it.
Posted 2009-07-30 18:21:13
so that they can force us to use AOT taxi that charges 2500 baht from the airport to Pattaya. AOT and King Power, they are the real mafia :-)
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Posted 2009-07-30 18:27:55
i heard that the carts are disappearing and being melted.
Who knows maybe they are being made into illeagal taxis?
Posted 2009-07-30 18:29:49
whatchamacallit, on 2009-07-30 18:21:13, said: so that they can force us to use AOT taxi that charges 2500 baht from the airport to Pattaya. AOT and King Power, they are the real mafia :-)
Who do they answer to?
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Posted 2009-07-30 18:39:53
george, on 2009-07-30 15:23:52, said: Crackdown on illegal taxis begins at Suvarnabhumi Airport Friday
BANGKOK: -- Illegal taxis at Bangkok's Suvarnabhumi International Airport will be targeted in a crackdown by the authorities from Friday, according to Deputy Director of the Department of Land Transport Chairat Sanguansue.
Speaking in his capacity of chairman of the sub-committee to regulate public transport at Suvarnabhumi, Mr. Chairat said intensified crackdowns on unauthorised taxis will start Friday July 31.
Notices have been issued and posted at the airport and a public relations campaign has been initiated to warn offenders, he said.
Meanwhile, police officers and security guards patrolling airport premises on Thursday began warning unlicensed tour guides before beginning to arresting those who are unlicensed from August 9.
-- TNA 2009-07-30
I would rather see who's the 'Big Man' or "The Explanation" behind the absolutely useless habit of the police, as well as airport security personnel, restricting any (taxi or others) drop-offs on departure to only the first (no 1) or last (No 8) gates (marking doorways) for the various airlines listed on the outside drop off road at that level, rendering 2/3rds of the drop off road inaccessible, slowing down the process, leaving taxis and passengers sometimes stranded 2 -3 lanes out, among moving vehicles, far from the footpath or where the trolleys are lined up, still waiting at each and every drop-off point though you can't get to most of them.
As some one whose regular airline weekly is right in the middle (drop-off points nos.4-5 are convenient to my flights), this is a continuing and needlessly frustrating R..R.P in the A!
Security is not the reason, as inside when reported (every time!!) the airlines staff just shrug their heads, and seek no rationalisation (so they know the truth perhaps?) though it is their passengers who are getting inconvenienced , and Suv seems just like it is to most of us still - a poorlly administered, unnecessarily chaotic den of pointless priveleged carved up points of power where someone , not the public, or the Thai reputation, is being served. Thank God at least the runways seem to work at last! 
Posted 2009-07-30 18:41:11
This has me worried.
Whenever I come to BKK Airport, I make arrangements in advance with a man called Mr. Toom, where he or one of his drivers picks me up. It's always worked like clockwork for me and lots of other people and it's a good price too - 1200 baht to Pattaya.
You meet the driver at door number 3 where he waits with your name on a board.
Does this mean Mr. Toom will be banned? Anyone know? I somehow doubt that he has any official accreditation.
Meanwhile, I'll email him and ask him myself. If he has anything useful to say about it, I'll let you know.
Posted 2009-07-30 18:47:07
in reference to the so-called legal and illegal taxi
legal taxi--authorized by govt or airports to service general public. usually those are yellowish taxi. most do have meters installed, even though some do not use it.... lol. they also usually have yellow license plates (?).
illegal taxi--mostly are privately owned autos, not authorized by govt or airports to service general public. almost all do not have meters. they usually come in various colors just like privately owned autos. most have WHITE private auto license plates.
if i am not mistaken.... lol
Edited by nakachalet, 2009-07-30 18:51:21.
Posted 2009-07-30 18:52:47
every few weeks it seems theres a post
about a crackdown on something
but has anything really changed in yhe LOS ?
Posted 2009-07-30 18:55:02
Now I understand why everytime I walk out, I get at least 3 assh*les following me saying, Taxi Pattaya sir, taxi Pattaya!
Its because of all you d*cks who keep comparing how much you are paying to go to that vile place! There are other places to go in this country. So many people complaining about Thais treating you like crap. Its your own fault. If you go to Pattaya you are low class filth. It that simple. Even taxi touts know this.
Its especially insulting when I am with my wife and they ask this. I just want to pick them up and throw them down to the base level from Departures.
Just one time I turned arounf and shout: Mai Ao! Pattaya pen kee! The guy was so surpised he did not what to do.
Posted 2009-07-30 19:00:30
Typical. Thailand is shamed for an unrelated scam they can't or won't interfere with.
So they "crack down" on something else.
I fully expect to go up to the departures level and grab one of the incoming cabs and ride to Jomtien for 1,000 baht as usual.
Posted 2009-07-30 19:05:16
EvilDrSomkid, on 2009-07-30 18:55:02, said: Now I understand why everytime I walk out, I get at least 3 assh*les following me saying, Taxi Pattaya sir, taxi Pattaya!
Its because of all you d*cks who keep comparing how much you are paying to go to that vile place! There are other places to go in this country. So many people complaining about Thais treating you like crap. Its your own fault. If you go to Pattaya you are low class filth. It that simple. Even taxi touts know this.
Its especially insulting when I am with my wife and they ask this. I just want to pick them up and throw them down to the base level from Departures.
Just one time I turned arounf and shout: Mai Ao! Pattaya pen kee! The guy was so surpised he did not what to do.
Don't shout these remarks too loud - wouldn't want the truth to surface. Certainly couldn't have that....
Posted 2009-07-30 19:21:07
Not just the airport, Mochit exactly the same thugs prowling around annoying you as you try to get from a bus to the 'legal' service area.
Posted 2009-07-30 19:24:43
pepi2005, on 2009-07-30 15:51:48, said: This makes it even worse for regular tourists as they won't have a chance to escape the overpriced organized taxis anymore. I found the so-called "illegal" Taxis generally best value, as long as they understand you know the real price and know that there is a meter they have to use. :-)
Of course, for the first- and one timers, the "crackdown" might be an advantage - but then TIT and who knows.
Most probably, within 2-3 weeks from now, everything will be 'same same but different' anyway.
I don't know what's the problem. There is a FREE Shuttle Bus from the Airport to the Bus Terminal. I use this many times when i'm arrived and saved a lot of money.
Posted 2009-07-30 19:44:15
Want to know a real taxi from an illegal one? It's like finding out whether its a good plant or a weed. Pull it up. If it comes back, it's a weed. Go figure.
Posted 2009-07-30 20:15:48
EvilDrSomkid, on 2009-07-30 19:55:02, said: Now I understand why everytime I walk out, I get at least 3 assh*les following me saying, Taxi Pattaya sir, taxi Pattaya!
Its because of all you d*cks who keep comparing how much you are paying to go to that vile place! There are other places to go in this country. So many people complaining about Thais treating you like crap. Its your own fault. If you go to Pattaya you are low class filth. It that simple. Even taxi touts know this.
Its especially insulting when I am with my wife and they ask this. I just want to pick them up and throw them down to the base level from Departures.
Just one time I turned arounf and shout: Mai Ao! Pattaya pen kee! The guy was so surpised he did not what to do.
"Let him who is without sin, throw the first stone."
I love judgmental ppl. A place you find shit maybe is heaven to others. Some guys find love on the internet, others in Pattaya.
Btw, I wonder why ppl never ask me to go Pattaya? I guess Im not looking like low class filth then .. 
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