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[stevedom]

just to clear up that when rainfall is measured , as in 10cm. in bangkok this time, it does not mean there is 10cm. of water on the ground. The amount of flooding from say, 6 inches of rainfall in aday would be catastrophic with water metres deep!

[Brewsta]

barry, on 2009-08-31 20:22:09, said:

WaiWai, on 2009-08-31 10:59:11, said:

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time to build an ark

You have a work permit?

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The red shirts took a wise decision not to come out... They would have been washed away!

I have noticed that their demonstrations usually are. Could there have been too little notice to cancel the plans for a dousing?

i guess i'd better cough up some "tea" money

Amazing - 764 users, incl.myself are reading this......careful we don't 'flood' the TV Webservers )

rgdz,

Brewsta

[ekkamai]

opalhort, on 2009-08-31 16:11:04, said:

Does anybody remember the 'great floods' in BKK in the early '80s (I think it was '83 or '84)?

A lot has improved here since then. These days flooding is very localised and it usually subsides within a few hours after the rains stop.

Let's not forget that BKK is very low lying and at high tides (Oct./Nov.) the best and biggest pumps won't be able to get rid of the water.

Our home is only 1.2mtr. above mean sea level, yet we haven't seen any flooding in the past 15 years because flood gates have been installed at all Khlongs in our area (we have a Khlong right behind our house!).

I think the BMA has done quite a good job in this regard.

opalhort

I remember. And in those days the pavements were even worse and full of BIG holes. Trying to walk down Sukhumvit in knee high water was something of an adventure.

[KevinBloodyWilson]

MUYTHAI, on 2009-08-31 17:43:34, said:

You come. Maybe you do not know that Thailand is not suurounded by dikes like the Neather regions. Thais have capable hydrologists and engineers to "fix the problem" as you call it.  They don't need Mr. Falang to "help" them because "tey no nuting". Maybe they do not want to create the structures, etc. that "you believe" they should.

Bit of a mystery why the streets keep flooding in the rainy season then I suppose. Perhaps they need capable meteorologists to tell the 'capable hydrologists and engineers' that it rains in the rainy season. Perhaps they don't know.

[OxfordWill]

by apartment building got struck by lightning, or the leccy tower outside did, which caused the generator to explode, whcih caused a fire, which caused me to leave my room at 2am, in the rain, for about an hour. Great skies though

[lioness]

10cm of water, and this is newsworthy?

My front garden was under 2m of flood water a couple of weeks ago due to extra  gates for the dam that controls the Khwae Yai being opened up. Now that did create a mess. It's going to cost the government about 100 million I am told to compensate people along the river for damage. Most of our outdoor items ended up floating away and we have spent the last couple of weeks finding them and bringing home what is still usable. Fortunately my home is raised up so no major problem for me, not like many neighbours who all but disappeared.

[farmerapache]

Let it rain...let it rain....let it rain.

[koto]

beano2274, on 2009-08-31 17:42:55, said:

If the Police instead of stopping people throwing cigarettes on the road, stopped people putting things down the drains, then the drains could be cleaned properly and the flooding might not be so severe in the future. I see people throw building waste in the sewers, earlier today on Vibhavadi Rangsit I saw a motorbike in the Khlong.

Was at Pongpetch earlier around 5pm, water still there.

Aloha
Part of the problem are things thrown on the street, the wind or rain takes it to the storm drain and you are right about unknowing or uncaring dumping or sweeping everything into our life's blood, the storm drains, If your ever near Tuk Com, Pattaya, look in the storm drains there at the rear entrance or whereever there are food carts, or close to a 7/Eleven, they plug up there or close and then the back-up begins, stencil, educate, fine or once all of our natural water is contaminated and we are not far away, we can kiss our back sides good-by

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[ianh68]

Avoid potential electrocution when wading through flood water. Wear heavy shoes or wellingtons, with socks and long trousers. Do not wear sandals.

[way2muchcoffee]

My living room, dining room, and kitchen were under about 8 cm by the time the rains finished last night.  Major hassle.  We live in the CBD off Sathorn.

[fred007]

Now this is when the Government should have a Crackdown? On every main road in Bangkok so the flood  water flows away ................

[Bosse137]

A little bit beside the mainsubject,but I think it is worth mentioning: I have TOT´s "Thomsen"-box.Last night,with thunder over this area, the box was hit THREE times,although it was not,as was nothing else neither,connected.It flared up,jumped around and frighten the sh-t of me the first time (I happen to sit next to it in the dark). Strangly enough,it was not damaged!! Anybody have an explanation??

[astral]

opalhort, on 2009-08-31 17:11:04, said:

Does anybody remember the 'great floods' in BKK in the early '80s (I think it was '83 or '84)?

A lot has improved here since then. These days flooding is very localised and it usually subsides within a few hours after the rains stop.

1983 I think.
Before my time but it happened again in May 1986 and that I do remember.
There was rain for about 36 hours, not torrential, but steady.
Silom Road was under 25cm of water and I had 10cm in the ground floor of my house in Sala Daeng.
It came up and in through the drains
I walked to work at the corner of Convent Road, but very few others made it in.

It drained off, or was pumped out within a couple of days.

[Seismic]

Thanh-BKK, on 2009-08-31 08:28:47, said:

Hi.

What's the panic about 10 cm's of water? I used to work near Lad Phrao intersection for some time and last year i had to cross knee-deep water there several times.

Also in Sukhumvit i had my motorbike (a normal, not under-bone one) die when the water reached the top of the cylinder, in places it was hip-deep then (~60-70 cm's).

And no matter what they do, first time it really pours it's all flooded again anyway. My boss lives in a village of Pathanakan where all streets are 10-15 cm's deep flooded after 20 minutes of rain, EVERY time.

Best regards.....

Thanh

Reminds me when I lived out there in Soi Suan Luang in the early 80's, We had to take a boat out to pattanakran road. I guess they havnt got much better in 30 years.!

cheers

[animatic]

Bosse137, on 2009-08-31 20:59:33, said:

A little bit beside the mainsubject,but I think it is worth mentioning: I have TOT´s "Thomsen"-box.Last night,with thunder over this area, the box was hit THREE times,although it was not,as was nothing else neither,connected.It flared up,jumped around and frighten the sh-t of me the first time (I happen to sit next to it in the dark). Strangly enough,it was not damaged!! Anybody have an explanation??

A surprisingly robust grounding scheme either for powersupply or antenna.
And like a bit of dumb luck.

It would seems a hit was near and transfered some energy via water conduction,
and down you to your box via the cable. A direct hit could knock down walls.
If it's still running after  JUMPIN about... well doubt that will last long...

[purushanti]

I think you are joking about the boat service from Khaosan to the airport.  In case not, near Ratchadamnoen and Phra Sumen is the klong boat.  It takes you at least to Ramkanhaeng, and even further, I believe.


BANGKOK: -- Incessantly heavy downpours and thunderstorms have occurred in all Bangkok and the vicinity on Sunday night, causing floods in 44 areas due to the capital's inadequate drainage system.

Forty-two flooding spots have returned to normal early Monday morning, while the high water level in the other two areas at the Ratchada-Ladprao intersection and Pongpetch Market were to be drained away by 11 am Monday.

Bangkok governor Sukhumbhand Paribatra went to the Ratchada-Ladprao intersection, where water was some 10 centimetres deep.

He said the Bangkok Metropolitan Administration (BMA) was able to drain only 60 millimetres of accumulated rainfall, but Sunday's heavy downpours meant accumulated water amounted to over 100 millimetres.

Meanwhile, Drainage and Sewerage Department Director Charnchai Witoonpanyakij said flooding in inner Bangkok could normally be solved within two hours, but Sunday's rainfall took more time for drainage in some areas located far from the river.

There are now seven drainage tunnels in the capital. The department plans to build another from Bang Sue district to the Chao Phraya River.

The project will open private sector bidding later this year with a budget of around Bt2 billion.

The Meteorological Department has warned the public to be careful of the danger from heavy rains in many areas nationwide, as wind-driven waves in the Gulf and the Andaman Sea could be 2-3 metres high and become stronger in the next few days, and small boats should not leave shore.

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Is there a boat service from Kao San Road to the Airport now?
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[Bosse137]

Thanks animatic. Actually,there were NO cables connected!! In addition all "breakers" were "of",and all contacts were out of their sockets.I can also add,that electricity went to the aircondition (throug 2 breakers) and I was already calculating the cost.However,nothing was damaged!? Ok. if this had been told by somebody else,I would have some funny comments about his status,was he drunk,did he dream and so on.But it did happen and I just wanted to tell it as a warning to others.I can`t imaging what would happen IF I had not taken all the precautions....

[Junglejumbo]

Supan Kwai was particularly bad and it was off with the shoes and socks. ATMs were all out of order too.

One positive development is that I think that the flood should kill all the rats. Supan kwai is over-run with them. Or perhaps they have a way to survive...

[animatic]

Bosse137, on 2009-08-31 22:01:29, said:

Thanks animatic. Actually,there were NO cables connected!! In addition all "breakers" were "of",and all contacts were out of their sockets.I can also add,that electricity went to the aircondition (throug 2 breakers) and I was already calculating the cost.However,nothing was damaged!? Ok. if this had been told by somebody else,I would have some funny comments about his status,was he drunk,did he dream and so on.But it did happen and I just wanted to tell it as a warning to others.I can`t imaging what would happen IF I had not taken all the precautions....

Hey Bosse
Lightning contains some heavy heavy joulles of power I have seen houses ripped apart.
Oak trees split and high tension electric  towers toppled in rows by lightning.
Maybe this was angled just enough to resonate in the metal frame of the box for a few milli-seconds.
This and the breakers may have even saved your bacon.

Thai electricians seem to think EARTH GROUND is a no no,
and so lighting strikes go ALL OVER... I had to go through 4 electricians
before I could get one who would obey my request to ground solidly my whole place.
2 refused to even consider 3rd wire and brass pole in the ground wiring,
and just left shaking their head at the ting tong farang.
But not as much I WAS at daft them. The 3rd guy didn't understand it too well,
but was willing but I declined, ...if he don't get why... well not my place.
4 was the charm.

Edited by animatic, 2009-08-31 22:29:34.

[aussiejosh]

sukhumvit on a jetski will be nice

[Sturbuc]

Thanh-BKK, on 2009-08-31 09:28:47, said:

Hi.

What's the panic about 10 cm's of water? I used to work near Lad Phrao intersection for some time and last year i had to cross knee-deep water there several times.

Also in Sukhumvit i had my motorbike (a normal, not under-bone one) die when the water reached the top of the cylinder, in places it was hip-deep then (~60-70 cm's).

And no matter what they do, first time it really pours it's all flooded again anyway. My boss lives in a village of Pathanakan where all streets are 10-15 cm's deep flooded after 20 minutes of rain, EVERY time.

Best regards.....

Thanh

Remember Chaweng Beach 2007... And 2008. And....

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[capt_canada42]

Junglejumbo, on 2009-08-31 22:08:01, said:

Supan Kwai was particularly bad and it was off with the shoes and socks. ATMs were all out of order too.

One positive development is that I think that the flood should kill all the rats. Supan kwai is over-run with them. Or perhaps they have a way to survive...

Most rats can swim very well.

The 4 legged variety are excellent swimmers.

The 2 legged rats are not born with this ability it is through sleazing through life they learn to sink or swim.

[bartlett]

Thai Goverment orders clampdown on foriengers building Arks.

You head it here first

[Bosse137]

animatic: Intersting stuff! I will take a long and hard look at what can be done for the future! I´ve had my lesson and escaped by a hair..

[Datsun240Z]

Sure the Dutch people have the knowledge to fight against high water. Since half of the country is below sea level. But I'm sure Thai engineers can fix this as well. And it ain't a " Can't do job ". If there's money, everything can be done...

Remember the artificial islands in front of the coast of Dubai? ->> $$$$$$$$ oil money.
They hired Dutch and Belgian for the job....

Source: http://en.wikipedia....ki/Palm_Islands


" They are being constructed by Nakheel Properties, a property developer in the United Arab Emirates, who hired Belgian and Dutch dredging and marine contractor Jan De Nul and Van Oord, some of the world's specialists in land reclamation. "