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#1 hullupullo

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Posted 2009-09-22 15:06:32

I got my 2 entry visa today in Vientiane. I have one 3 entry visa from Helsinki and two 2 entry visas from Vientiane before that.

Today I also got red stamp beside my visa:

"Remark: The holder has travelled to Thailand with Tourist Visa 9 times. The Embassy may not accept the application next time"

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Posted 2009-09-22 15:17:40

View Posthullupullo, on 2009-09-22 15:06:32, said:

I got my 2 entry visa today in Vientiane. I have one 3 entry visa from Helsinki and two 2 entry visas from Vientiane before that.

Today I also got red stamp beside my visa:

"Remark: The holder has travelled to Thailand with Tourist Visa 9 times. The Embassy may not accept the application next time"
Classic T.I.T........hey, lets give out free visas to encourage tourism, but we don't actually want you to apply for one, and really we don't want you here at all, we're doing just fine without you!.....hmmm

#3 tropo

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Posted 2009-09-23 01:30:30

View Posthullupullo, on 2009-09-22 15:06:32, said:

I got my 2 entry visa today in Vientiane. I have one 3 entry visa from Helsinki and two 2 entry visas from Vientiane before that.

Today I also got red stamp beside my visa:

"Remark: The holder has travelled to Thailand with Tourist Visa 9 times. The Embassy may not accept the application next time"

Last one! The dreaded warning stamp has come out.

Vientiane is no longer a tourist visa factory.

#4 Ricci

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Posted 2009-09-23 08:14:40

anyone else can confirm that "red stamp" story?

#5 hullupullo

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Posted 2009-09-23 10:49:42

View PostRicci, on 2009-09-23 09:14:40, said:

anyone else can confirm that "red stamp" story?
It's not just a story. I can put picture of that on forum when I get home. I saw one more guy got same stamp.

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Posted 2009-09-23 10:55:24

View Posthullupullo, on 2009-09-23 10:49:42, said:

View PostRicci, on 2009-09-23 09:14:40, said:

anyone else can confirm that "red stamp" story?
It's not just a story. I can put picture of that on forum when I get home. I saw one more guy got same stamp.
Actually it is a story, and a true one at that!

#7 PoorSucker

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Posted 2009-09-23 11:36:17

View Posthullupullo, on 2009-09-23 10:49:42, said:

View PostRicci, on 2009-09-23 09:14:40, said:

anyone else can confirm that "red stamp" story?
It's not just a story. I can put picture of that on forum when I get home. I saw one more guy got same stamp.

Was the number "9" on the stamp or did they hand write it?
Just wondering if they limit to nine tourist visas.

#8 tropo

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Posted 2009-09-23 12:36:37

View PostPoorSucker, on 2009-09-23 11:36:17, said:

View Posthullupullo, on 2009-09-23 10:49:42, said:

View PostRicci, on 2009-09-23 09:14:40, said:

anyone else can confirm that "red stamp" story?
It's not just a story. I can put picture of that on forum when I get home. I saw one more guy got same stamp.

Was the number "9" on the stamp or did they hand write it?
Just wondering if they limit to nine tourist visas.

That would be a huge stretch i.e. setting the number at 9.

Taking an educated guess, they're letting everyone through this time around and giving all back-to-back tourist visa recipients the red warning stamp. Recording a number will make their job easier if the applicant returns.

Note the warning stamp was worded "MAY not accept the application next time". This allows for some flexibility for some cases. Time will tell exactly how they are going to enforce this, but I wouldn't expect any definitive answers for quite sometime.

#9 hullupullo

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Posted 2009-09-23 14:04:45

Here is this red stamp
Attached File  visaredstamp.jpg   41.81K   1342 downloads

#10 thaiphoon

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Posted 2009-09-23 14:09:26

Thanks for posting that hullupullo.  Maybe time for a new passport  :)

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Posted 2009-09-23 16:09:20

View Posthullupullo, on 2009-09-23 14:04:45, said:

Here is this red stamp
Attachment visaredstamp.jpg

Can't argue with that.

Thanks for posting the positive proof.

If anyone is heading up to Vientiane soon, please ask them how many back-to-back tourist visas will be allowed.

Edited by tropo, 2009-09-23 16:11:40.


#12 dr_Pat_Pong

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Posted 2009-09-23 16:13:39

View Postmussen, on 2009-09-22 15:17:40, said:

View Posthullupullo, on 2009-09-22 15:06:32, said:

I got my 2 entry visa today in Vientiane. I have one 3 entry visa from Helsinki and two 2 entry visas from Vientiane before that.

Today I also got red stamp beside my visa:

"Remark: The holder has travelled to Thailand with Tourist Visa 9 times. The Embassy may not accept the application next time"
Classic T.I.T........hey, lets give out free visas to encourage tourism, but we don't actually want you to apply for one, and really we don't want you here at all, we're doing just fine without you!.....hmmm


NINE tourist visa's    :)   Hardly a genuine tourist.

#13 Lite Beer

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Posted 2009-09-23 16:26:36

I have given this it's own topic.

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Posted 2009-09-23 16:32:09

View Postdr_Pat_Pong, on 2009-09-23 18:13:39, said:

View Postmussen, on 2009-09-22 15:17:40, said:

View Posthullupullo, on 2009-09-22 15:06:32, said:

I got my 2 entry visa today in Vientiane. I have one 3 entry visa from Helsinki and two 2 entry visas from Vientiane before that.

Today I also got red stamp beside my visa:

"Remark: The holder has travelled to Thailand with Tourist Visa 9 times. The Embassy may not accept the application next time"
Classic T.I.T........hey, lets give out free visas to encourage tourism, but we don't actually want you to apply for one, and really we don't want you here at all, we're doing just fine without you!.....hmmm


NINE tourist visa's :) Hardly a geuine tourist.


Actually only 4, but with a total of 9 entries.

Still not a genuine tourist obviously, but this loophole has been a lifeline to many for the last couple of years.

Looks like the rumours on the other thread were actually true :D

#15 hullupullo

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Posted 2009-09-23 18:22:05

View Postdr_Pat_Pong, on 2009-09-23 17:13:39, said:

NINE tourist visa's    :)   Hardly a geuine tourist.

Actually if You count my old passport too, it's more. One single entry from KL, two single entry from Vientiane and one double entry from Vientiane. And don't forget that one multientry non-o I got from Helsinki Consulate in year 2007. Oh, and have to add 6 or 7 extension too. So roll over again :D , don't care a bit what you think. Haven't done anything wrong or illegal, there just is no other visa for me.

btw, I saw man who didn't got this stamp and he said he has lived here 7 years with TR visas. Maybe something to do with that he applied only single entry visa?

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Posted 2009-09-23 18:33:02

View Posthullupullo, on 2009-09-23 18:22:05, said:

Haven't done anything wrong or illegal, there just is no other visa for me.
Obtain Non-O multiple entry visa on the basis of visiting friends from Perth or some of the honorary consulates in Europe is an alternative option.

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Posted 2009-09-23 18:40:46

Can you please confirm if you previous visas were back to back or spaced out??

As your previous visa was from Helsinki, well outside the local region,
it does rather sound like a knee jerk reaction from Vientienne. :)

#18 hullupullo

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Posted 2009-09-23 19:09:43

View Postthaiphoon, on 2009-09-23 19:33:02, said:

View Posthullupullo, on 2009-09-23 18:22:05, said:

Haven't done anything wrong or illegal, there just is no other visa for me.
Obtain Non-O multiple entry visa on the basis of visiting friends from Perth or some of the honorary consulates in Europe is an alternative option.
Ok that can do. Helsinki gave one before. But I still haven't done anything illegal or wrong, that was my point.


View Postastral, on 2009-09-23 19:40:46, said:

Can you please confirm if you previous visas were back to back or spaced out??

As your previous visa was from Helsinki, well outside the local region,
it does rather sound like a knee jerk reaction from Vientienne. :)
Helsinki, Vientiane, Vientiane and now again Vientiane. Never stayed outside Thailand more than 1-2 nights.

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Posted 2009-09-23 19:16:38

View Posthullupullo, on 2009-09-23 19:09:43, said:

View Postthaiphoon, on 2009-09-23 19:33:02, said:

View Posthullupullo, on 2009-09-23 18:22:05, said:

Haven't done anything wrong or illegal, there just is no other visa for me.
Obtain Non-O multiple entry visa on the basis of visiting friends from Perth or some of the honorary consulates in Europe is an alternative option.
Ok that can do. Helsinki gave one before. But I still haven't done anything illegal or wrong, that was my point.
Was not saying or suggesting you had.  Just giving you another possible option.   :)

#20 Mario2008

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Posted 2009-09-23 19:20:43

Seems this is the first confirmation on the crackdown on tourist visas besides Penang, but indeed still a lot of questions are unanswered. But I guess living in Thailand on tourist visas is going to be difficult. However, that part of the discussion is already being discussed here: http://www.thaivisa....at-t297046.html and we are not going to discus it here.

Please only factual information or questions here. All other remarks, about Thai visa policy etc are off topic in this thread.

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Posted 2009-09-24 11:32:28

View Posthullupullo, on 2009-09-23 19:09:43, said:

Helsinki, Vientiane, Vientiane and now again Vientiane. Never stayed outside Thailand more than 1-2 nights.

We know one thing for sure - they spent quite a while going through your passport. They are taking this quite seriously.

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Posted 2009-09-24 11:59:15

I think he was just unlucky, there are at least 500 people a day for make a visa applicaton in Vientiane .
I'm awating for other reports.

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Posted 2009-09-24 14:35:53

View Posthullupullo, on 2009-09-23 18:22:05, said:

Actually if You count my old passport too, it's more. One single entry from KL, two single entry from Vientiane and one double entry from Vientiane. And don't forget that one multientry non-o I got from Helsinki Consulate in year 2007. Oh, and have to add 6 or 7 extension too. So roll over again :) , don't care a bit what you think. Haven't done anything wrong or illegal, there just is no other visa for me.

SO four tourists visa entries in your new passport and 1+2+2 in your old. So that makes nine tourist visas. So they are probably counting only the number of entries and check them from a central database.

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Posted 2009-09-24 14:47:00

View Posttim73, on 2009-09-24 14:35:53, said:

View Posthullupullo, on 2009-09-23 18:22:05, said:

Actually if You count my old passport too, it's more. One single entry from KL, two single entry from Vientiane and one double entry from Vientiane. And don't forget that one multientry non-o I got from Helsinki Consulate in year 2007. Oh, and have to add 6 or 7 extension too. So roll over again :) , don't care a bit what you think. Haven't done anything wrong or illegal, there just is no other visa for me.

SO four tourists visa entries in your new passport and 1+2+2 in your old. So that makes nine tourist visas. So they are probably counting only the number of entries and check them from a central database.
No. Check again. This new passport has now 4 visas and 9 entries, they count that new visa they gave too. So after this visa I have 9 entries and they may not accept application anymore.

edit. Oh yes, now I see what you mean. I have 9 visas but entries much more.

There was more people who got this stamp. Do you think here in forum that everybody who go get visa reads this forum? No, they do not.

Edited by hullupullo, 2009-09-24 14:50:46.


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Posted 2009-09-24 14:54:19

View Postastor, on 2009-09-24 11:59:15, said:

I think he was just unlucky, there are at least 500 people a day for make a visa applicaton in Vientiane .
I'm awating for other reports.

As none have declared the same situation yet, I wonder whether they suspect that he is working illegally in Thailand especially if he is under 50 years of age. Let's wait and see other reports.
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