394 replies to this topic
Posted 2010-02-06 11:31:18
 myauq, on 2010-02-06 09:53:04, said:
there are no specific laws discriminating against particular people in situations like this, but they often make decisions affecting applicants based on their feelings that morning or afternoon.
But they do make dicisions based on nationality. I went there with my Filipino gf in October. We had identical and matching tourist visas in our passport. I (NZ passport) was given a tourist visa without a red stamp. She was refused a tourist visa.
I don't believe this decision was "based on their feelings that morning or afternoon".
Posted 2010-02-06 11:42:04
tropo, on 2010-02-06 11:31:18, said: myauq, on 2010-02-06 09:53:04, said: there are no specific laws discriminating against particular people in situations like this, but they often make decisions affecting applicants based on their feelings that morning or afternoon.
But they do make dicisions based on nationality. I went there with my Filipino gf in October. We had identical and matching tourist visas in our passport. I (NZ passport) was given a tourist visa without a red stamp. She was refused a tourist visa.
I don't believe this decision was "based on their feelings that morning or afternoon".
no, but that's just an example of a reason. i was in the same situation as you, but my gf being burmese.
my point is that there isn't a law which stipulates burmese, filipino or african people get denied tourist visa or only get a single entry visas (if they're lucky), but consulate decisions are made on whatever reason suits them that day. not every decsion is based on the laws of thailand - which is pathetic, corrupt and a pain in the arse (whichever way you want to describe it) for those legally trying abide by the laws.
Posted 2010-02-27 16:12:53
myauq, on 2010-02-06 11:42:04, said: my point is that there isn't a law which stipulates burmese, filipino or african people get denied tourist visa or only get a single entry visas (if they're lucky), but consulate decisions are made on whatever reason suits them that day. not every decsion is based on the laws of thailand - which is pathetic, corrupt and a pain in the arse (whichever way you want to describe it) for those legally trying abide by the laws.
I don't think it is fair to say "pathetic, corrupt".
A "pain in the arse" sure.
I once tried to obtain a tourist visa for a 19 year old Russian girl to visit me in Australia, and unfortunately it was declined. When I querried this I was told that she falls into a category (young Russian women) that have a high probability of overstaying their visa based on past statistics. There is no law in Australia that denies young Russian women visas, but it is up to the discretion of the immigration officer.
The same may apply in Thailand. English, Australian and NZ men would probably very rarely overstay their visas (or work in Thailand), while young female Filipinos or Burmese would be much more likely to overstay or work in Thailand, and hence the different attitude and subsequent result at the consulate.
Posted 2010-02-27 20:37:43
Hi Guys the ropes may be getting tighter I dont do border runs I got to my embassy in Bangkok once a year with my thailand bank records and my income from my home country I GO BACK TO MT PROVINCE WITH MY STAMPED PAPERS AND HAVE NO PROBLEM non o visas must be on the way out I spoke to an englishman the other day he had three days left or he was going bi noon
Posted 2010-02-27 20:38:24
dr_Pat_Pong, on 2009-09-23 16:13:39, said: mussen, on 2009-09-22 15:17:40, said: hullupullo, on 2009-09-22 15:06:32, said: I got my 2 entry visa today in Vientiane. I have one 3 entry visa from Helsinki and two 2 entry visas from Vientiane before that.
Today I also got red stamp beside my visa:
"Remark: The holder has travelled to Thailand with Tourist Visa 9 times. The Embassy may not accept the application next time"
Classic T.I.T........hey, lets give out free visas to encourage tourism, but we don't actually want you to apply for one, and really we don't want you here at all, we're doing just fine without you!.....hmmm
NINE tourist visa's  Hardly a genuine tourist.
Exactly..logic seems to be very individualistic!!
Posted 2010-02-27 20:55:28
Hi I just want to find out what does red stamp mean? I surmise it is red stamp in passport yes but what does it mean and what is its purpose? I have never had one and no one i know has received one . Please I am very curious.
Posted 2010-02-27 21:13:32
See here for an example of the warning stamp given by the Thai consulate in Vientiane, Laos:
http://www.thaivisa....01#entry3031501
See here for the announcement posted on the website of the Thai consulate in Helsinki, Finland:
http://www.thaivisa....40#entry3085840
See here for a later, differently-worded warning stamp given by the Thai consulate in Vientiane:
http://www.thaivisa....20#entry3094020
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Maestro
Posted 2010-02-28 01:36:55
I have been trying to catch up on this thread, but I find it unbelievable that so many posts have nothing to do with the actual topic!
Sorry, I have not read the complete topic as there are so many posts about non -0's, other countries, extensions in Bangkok, common law spouses, etc. etc.
Has any Westerner actually been denied a tourist visa without getting the red stamp first?
I believe that soon, the tourist visas will no longer be free, so I wonder if that will bring a return to "Business as usual"
Posted 2010-02-28 02:28:27
loong, on 2010-02-28 01:36:55, said: Has any Westerner actually been denied a tourist visa without getting the red stamp first?
The answer is yes. Have a read of this thread. As you say, maybe it will be 'business as usual' again at Vientiane after the free visa promotion ends on 4th March.
Posted 2010-02-28 02:53:23
Thanks thaiphoon,
There is actually no mention of the red stamp in that thread - but I doubt that anyone would be foolish enough to apply if they did have one 
Posted 2010-02-28 03:09:56
Yes, and as is pretty important information I would have expected it to have been stated if had already been red stamped. Concur with your thoughts over returning for another visa if already red stamped ... 
Posted 2010-02-28 16:03:13
In was at immigration for an extension last week and was informed that if I had too many tourist visa's then I could be denied an extension, I was told this by more than one person. It doesn't actually affect me but I was looking into what options are available to me.
I suppose this means that even if somewhere like Vientiane does go back to 'business as normal', then things still won't be as easy as they were.
Posted 2010-03-02 11:25:08
Interesting to see not what hapends March 4 . . Cross my fingers for the VISA Factory in Lao .
Posted 2010-03-03 11:25:34
Posted 2010-11-08 00:14:42
dr_Pat_Pong, on 2009-09-23 16:13:39, said:
mussen, on 2009-09-22 15:17:40, said: hullupullo, on 2009-09-22 15:06:32, said: I got my 2 entry visa today in Vientiane. I have one 3 entry visa from Helsinki and two 2 entry visas from Vientiane before that.
Today I also got red stamp beside my visa:
"Remark: The holder has travelled to Thailand with Tourist Visa 9 times. The Embassy may not accept the application next time"
Classic T.I.T........hey, lets give out free visas to encourage tourism, but we don't actually want you to apply for one, and really we don't want you here at all, we're doing just fine without you!.....hmmm
NINE tourist visa's Hardly a genuine tourist.
Some people have more time and money to tour around than others.
Posted 2010-11-08 00:38:13
I saw someone saying some dude live 7 years in Thailand with TR visa 
teach me how...
Posted 2010-11-08 14:22:10
just heard from a friend who is in vientiane today that the thai embassy was refusing to issue visas to people with too many visa runs in their passports. 3 or 4 visa runs seemed to be enough to get a refusal, so a lot of people were leaving with no new tourist visa and the prospect of only 14 days when crossing the land border. whether this is a temporary crackdown like last time around or if it is a more permanent measure is unknown.
Posted 2010-11-10 01:46:05
StevieH, on 2010-11-08 14:22:10, said:
just heard from a friend who is in vientiane today that the thai embassy was refusing to issue visas to people with too many visa runs in their passports. 3 or 4 visa runs seemed to be enough to get a refusal, so a lot of people were leaving with no new tourist visa and the prospect of only 14 days when crossing the land border. whether this is a temporary crackdown like last time around or if it is a more permanent measure is unknown.
Were they refusing tourist visas at the application window, or were the refusals discovered when people picked up their passports?
Posted 2010-11-10 08:36:07
tropo, on 2010-11-10 01:46:05, said:
StevieH, on 2010-11-08 14:22:10, said:
just heard from a friend who is in vientiane today that the thai embassy was refusing to issue visas to people with too many visa runs in their passports. 3 or 4 visa runs seemed to be enough to get a refusal, so a lot of people were leaving with no new tourist visa and the prospect of only 14 days when crossing the land border. whether this is a temporary crackdown like last time around or if it is a more permanent measure is unknown.
Were they refusing tourist visas at the application window, or were the refusals discovered when people picked up their passports?
not sure but my friend was there on monday dropping his passport off so it sounds like it would be when going to the application window.
Posted 2010-11-10 10:04:32
There was some commotion some pages back about the reason behind getting a new passport and that for some bizarre reason - just wanting one was not only illegitimate but a flag for Homeland Insecurity. I totally disagree. It's a total money spinner. What would it matter to "Homeland" what passport you are on? In fact, the more the better as they scan each one and are more up to date as to where you are coming and going.
The US govt could care less about your (my) silly visa problems.
If nothing else, simply a concern of your pp becoming full while traveling is sufficient, I have a 48pp passport from April 2010 and it's nearly half full (only 1 double TR). I am certain the US govt would gladly have you apply in the US than all the hassles one contends with issuing outside the country.
Mutilating passports - now THAT is illegal.
I will be in Vientiane for what I was hoping would be my last TR but I am so sick of reading of the hassles and expense related to annual extensions, TRs look about the same hassle and price. Still considering applying from US I think the best option.
I wish we all just go away for 2 years. Thai govt has had it too good, too long. That fancy building in BKK was built with OUR money. Don't forget it.
Edited by bangkokburning, 2010-11-10 10:09:28.
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