could you please post your boring illegal stuff in the other thread?
after one week i've heard from 4 or 5 people getting that stamp.
without any clear rules it seems to be just a warning like it is in Penang for over two years already.
anything new about the red stamps from Vientiane?
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Red Warning Stamp at Vientienne
Started by hullupullo, 2009-09-22 15:06
#52
Yimmy
Senior Member Posted 2009-09-28 09:19:18 Quote Muay Thai courses are a good one, For the Ed Visa? I for one would be very interested in hearing more about this. #53
Mario2008
Superb Member Posted 2009-09-28 09:33:57
Quote Muay Thai courses are a good one, For the Ed Visa? I for one would be very interested in hearing more about this. It seems immigration is getting stricter. You might be able to get an ED visa for this, but extensions of stay will probably not be given. Inquire at the school if they can help you with an extension. Officialy you need to be studying at a registered educational institution, which a muay Thai school is not. #54
NinjaGladiator
Advanced Member Posted 2009-09-28 09:37:25
If you are in Udon, go to the Sports University (NW side of ring road) and enquire about the courses. For Pattaya ISS is a good place to start (sukumvit hi-way, just before Pattaya Klang). You would still need to go to an embassy/consulate outside of Thailand that issues the Non-Ed visa (I'm not sure if Vientienne does or not - they are constantly restricting bordering consulates to what type of visas they can issue).
You could either try and get a multiple entry type (good for 15 months) or come in on a single entry and apply for extention for 1yr. 1st option - does the consulate you chose issue Multiple entry visas (I don't think they all do!) 2nd option - is the course coasha, will immigration check up on attendance, remember 1 yr extentions are not guaranteed, although quite straight-forward for the retiree, they mess all others about, I've known my marriage extention take 3 months to be approved, I had friends being visited by immigration in their homes and wouldn't leave without a bottle of Black-label. For me I had to draw a map and because there was no land marks/7-elevens on any of the turns he said "MUST HAVE 7-11" I'm thinking "wot do you want me to go and build one"! #55
tropo
Titanium Member Posted 2009-09-28 11:38:38
Mario2008, where are you?
You/we wanted to keep this a factual thread on red stamp warnings from Vientiane but it is fast becoming another thai visa policy discussion forum. We've heard enough from those guys (eg. posts #51, 53, 57, 60...) already in other threads devoted to that topic. Edited by tropo, 2009-09-28 11:41:47. #56
NinjaGladiator
Advanced Member Posted 2009-09-28 12:09:18
Anybody clicking on this thread with interest, may also be looking for alternatives if the same has happened to them, this is obviously a worrying time for many, and as long as all posts are on topic, who are you TROPO to say what is relevant/irrelevant to other readers looking for information, my posts are relevant, as accurate and informative as I can honestly state and on topic.
#57
tropo
Titanium Member Posted 2009-09-28 12:28:04
Anybody clicking on this thread with interest, may also be looking for alternatives if the same has happened to them, this is obviously a worrying time for many, and as long as all posts are on topic, who are you TROPO to say what is relevant/irrelevant to other readers looking for information, my posts are relevant, as accurate and informative as I can honestly state and on topic. I'll tell you who I am. I'm one of the people who actually travel to Vientiane for tourist visas. I'll be heading up there again in less than a month. In this thread I'm only interested in hearing about currrent reports from Vientiane about what is actually happening right now. That is why this thread was opened in the first place. There is a 26 page thread HERE where you can voice your opinions. #58
Norrad
One of a kind! Posted 2009-09-28 13:07:24
Guys, just thought I'd let you know that a German man who lives in the same building as me also got a red stamp from the embassy in Vientiene last week. He is a bit worried about it as he has a child with his girlfriend but cannot get a proof of income letter to go the non-O route. He came to me for advice and showed me the stamp. He said not everyone was getting the stamp, only those with 3 or more back to back tourist visas.
#59
tropo
Titanium Member Posted 2009-09-28 15:42:48
Guys, just thought I'd let you know that a German man who lives in the same building as me also got a red stamp from the embassy in Vientiene last week. He is a bit worried about it as he has a child with his girlfriend but cannot get a proof of income letter to go the non-O route. He came to me for advice and showed me the stamp. He said not everyone was getting the stamp, only those with 3 or more back to back tourist visas. Thanks for reporting. That's the first time we've heard about how many could be allowed. #60
thaiphoon
Star Member Posted 2009-09-28 16:18:53
Guys, just thought I'd let you know that a German man who lives in the same building as me also got a red stamp from the embassy in Vientiene last week. He is a bit worried about it as he has a child with his girlfriend but cannot get a proof of income letter to go the non-O route. He came to me for advice and showed me the stamp. He said not everyone was getting the stamp, only those with 3 or more back to back tourist visas. Thanks for reporting. That's the first time we've heard about how many could be allowed. #61
Skyline
Senior Member Posted 2009-09-28 16:31:31
These red stamps were given out about 3 years ago in Vientiane and then dropped shortly afterwards.Lets wait and see.
#62
Fred Sanford
Senior Member Posted 2009-09-28 18:57:07
Well in a way you are doing something illegal, you are cascading as a tourist, when you are really an expat/non-immigrant resident. All countries have their rules for example a Thai cannot go to UK longer than 6 months unless married going to marry, special occupation, education, etc. The Thai government has turned a blind eye in-order to reap the rewards for so long, but they will systematically reduce the number of illegal tourists as it suits them and as they can afford to do so. 1st they choked the 30 day travellers with the max 90 days in 6 month, now that's even gone to no more back-to-backs, they will eventually reduce the 60 days to 3 entries (6 months) this is inline with most countries, then if you want to stay longer they will insist that you meet their criteria, married, education, volunteer, working, retired, etc. What's the matter the Thai lady to ugly to be your wife (lol)?? There is another one have a kid with a Thai lady and support the child. Good luck to anyone in this situation, but it's gonna get worst, and you gotta sort of agree it's right! So a few people may have to adjust their life-styles a little (OK A LOT). agree with tropo that posts like this are enormously helpful regarding the Vientiane red stamp issue. I'll be going there in mid Oct. and will report back in detail. #63
tropo
Titanium Member Posted 2009-09-28 22:05:44
Agree with that completely correct observation on the current trend. Living in a country while declaring that you are a tourist is glossed over as acceptable practice in this forum but is immigration fraud by any other name. The Thai authorities have turned a blind eye for a long time but are wising up on it. You wanna stay, you can, but only with the right kind of visa. Just like anywhere else. Tourists the world over come for a short period, spend lots of money, and then go back to their country of residence for a prolonged period. Hard to say you are a tourisst anywhere with multiple back-to-back visas and expect the authorities to believe you ... There's already a 26 page thread dedicated to such drivel. How about you go there and knock yourself out. We've heard it all 1000 times before. #64
tropo
Titanium Member Posted 2009-09-28 22:09:37
Well, if it is all true and Vientiane is off the radar I guess there goes half the national budget for The Lao PDR. Anyone noticed the entire industry that has sprung up to cater to the Thai visa runners? This is probably why they're still giving out tourist visas despite many already in passport and despite the fact that they are currently free of charge. There's already a report that they will allow 3 back-to-back visas without a warning. Things may just settle back down to normal in time (finger's crossed). #65
mommysboy
Platinum Member Posted 2009-09-28 22:48:44
I got my 2 entry visa today in Vientiane. I have one 3 entry visa from Helsinki and two 2 entry visas from Vientiane before that. Today I also got red stamp beside my visa: "Remark: The holder has travelled to Thailand with Tourist Visa 9 times. The Embassy may not accept the application next time" Yes I confirm a friend has just returned with the same. He was applying for a second dual entry tourist visa (having obtained the first from Laos too). #66
thaiphoon
Star Member Posted 2009-09-28 22:54:55
I got my 2 entry visa today in Vientiane. I have one 3 entry visa from Helsinki and two 2 entry visas from Vientiane before that. Today I also got red stamp beside my visa: "Remark: The holder has travelled to Thailand with Tourist Visa 9 times. The Embassy may not accept the application next time"  That's a big shift from previous report of 3 visas and warning stamp on 4th application.
Edited by thaiphoon, 2009-09-28 23:06:58. #67
astor
Senior Member Posted 2009-09-28 23:10:08
. In the case they enforcing this new rule also for those who over 50, it would be the proof that the illegal work by the foreigners has notting to do with this new rule. people over 50 can be illegal workers also so i can not see any logic to what you just said #68
mommysboy
Platinum Member Posted 2009-09-28 23:26:34
I got my 2 entry visa today in Vientiane. I have one 3 entry visa from Helsinki and two 2 entry visas from Vientiane before that. Today I also got red stamp beside my visa: "Remark: The holder has travelled to Thailand with Tourist Visa 9 times. The Embassy may not accept the application next time" That's a big shift from previous report of 3 visas and warning stamp on 4th application.Well what I've reported is true and I was careful to check the facts. Perhaps we need to draw a distinction between single and double entry ( sounds a bit rude that). Thus if you apply for single entry visas, yes I suppose it would be the 4th application that would attract the stamp. Whereas with 2 back to back double entries (now we are sounding naughty) the stamp would appear on the second application. Either way it's the same. #69
thaiphoon
Star Member Posted 2009-09-28 23:39:40
. In the case they enforcing this new rule also for those who over 50, it would be the proof that the illegal work by the foreigners has notting to do with this new rule. #70
tropo
Titanium Member Posted 2009-09-29 00:07:30
I got my 2 entry visa today in Vientiane. I have one 3 entry visa from Helsinki and two 2 entry visas from Vientiane before that. Today I also got red stamp beside my visa: "Remark: The holder has travelled to Thailand with Tourist Visa 9 times. The Embassy may not accept the application next time" Yes I confirm a friend has just returned with the same. He was applying for a second dual entry tourist visa (having obtained the first from Laos too). So we're down to 2 back-to-back tourist visas and out.
#71
astor
Senior Member Posted 2009-09-29 03:16:29
Well ,we have had just one real testification up to now. The rest ones are only hearsay.
Did they give a red stamp just after one t.v? Then everyone should had got that stamp, because almost all applicants have at least one or more visas in their passports . So, this tread should be full of reports jet. It's a bit peculiar ,isn't it? Edited by astor, 2009-09-29 03:18:03. #72
clockworkorange
Senior Member Posted 2009-09-29 06:58:10
Agree with that completely correct observation on the current trend. Living in a country while declaring that you are a tourist is glossed over as acceptable practice in this forum but is immigration fraud by any other name. The Thai authorities have turned a blind eye for a long time but are wising up on it. You wanna stay, you can, but only with the right kind of visa. Just like anywhere else. Tourists the world over come for a short period, spend lots of money, and then go back to their country of residence for a prolonged period. Hard to say you are a tourisst anywhere with multiple back-to-back visas and expect the authorities to believe you ... There's already a 26 page thread dedicated to such drivel. How about you go there and knock yourself out. We've heard it all 1000 times before. Eh? This is a public forum, and pretty much every subject has been discussed. I was merely pointing out the reasons why people should not rely on tourist visas - they are tightening up and the only recourse now seems to be getting a visa that matches your circumstances. Who are you anyway to police threads with what you think should and shouldn't appear? We all have an equal right to express our views here. #73
uncletom
Senior Member Posted 2009-09-29 08:53:48
Dear Tropo.
You do seem to be lashing out a bit. I know you are concerned, and this sudden new immigration change is something for you and many to be concerned about, but as long as someone doesn't get out of control, and is just speaking there opinion in a sane way, then there should not be any recourse. Just my observation. Take care. Uncletom #74
fozzy58uk
Advanced Member Posted 2009-09-29 09:19:50
My friend just came back on Saturday with his 4th back to back double TV. There doesn't seem to be a fixed number. I will be on my way up Oct 12 to apply for my fourth. I still don't have the cash for retirement visa. Fingers crossed. I will report back soonest.
#75
fozzy58uk
Advanced Member Posted 2009-09-29 09:24:13
I have a lot of sympathy with tropo's argument. I want facts on this thread. I have read more than enough from posters who are fortunate to qualify for their non-imm visas accusing those of us who are not with illegal activity or being low life scum etc on the other thread. To those of you who call on your right to state your opinion, I also agree with that, but the topic has been done to death. LOL.
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